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Post by lar on Dec 22, 2011 22:22:11 GMT -5
I don't quite understand this, can you clarify? You saying that you changed your speaker cable with another cable and the buzz went away? No, actually I was just trying to be funny to see if anyone noticed.. I was saying that I disconnected the cable completely from the speaker to the amp and then the buzz went away. I guess I should have added that all the rest of the sound went away too. I really haven't tried anything else from what I originally did to try and eliminate the buzzing. I have some locking banana plugs I intend to install this weekend but I doubt that this is going to make any difference. I just got the plugs because they look nice. I thought perhaps you were losing it. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 22, 2011 23:46:04 GMT -5
No, actually I was just trying to be funny to see if anyone noticed.. I was saying that I disconnected the cable completely from the speaker to the amp and then the buzz went away. I guess I should have added that all the rest of the sound went away too. I really haven't tried anything else from what I originally did to try and eliminate the buzzing. I have some locking banana plugs I intend to install this weekend but I doubt that this is going to make any difference. I just got the plugs because they look nice. I thought perhaps you were losing it. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Well there's still time for that. ;D
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 23, 2011 0:00:51 GMT -5
Rickie
Over the years I have seen resonance cause a lot of problems of one nature or another. Whether it is this time I wouldn't venture a guess. All I know is that it might be and that decoupling the amp might cure your problem. It won't cost that much to try it out. Invite a friend or neighbor over on some pretext and then ask them to lift the corners of the amp while you slide the decouplers underneath. It might cost you a soft drink or a beer... or in my case, a lemon-ade. ;D Good luck hunting for the culprit.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 23, 2011 0:16:32 GMT -5
Rickie Over the years I have seen resonance cause a lot of problems of one nature or another. Whether it is this time I wouldn't venture a guess. All I know is that it might be and that decoupling the amp might cure your problem. It won't cost that much to try it out. Invite a friend or neighbor over on some pretext and then ask them to lift the corners of the amp while you slide the decouplers underneath. It might cost you a soft drink or a beer... or in my case, a lemon-ade. ;D Good luck hunting for the culprit. Thanks, RR - it might cost the other person a hernia, too. ;D Well, I have some free time coming up so I plan on looking into this a bit more.. got some fun stuff to do - try the new UMC-1 firmware, put on those locking banana slugs, listen to a bunch of things that have been piling up.. even try the decoupling thing you mentioned.. it's all good! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by probillygun on Dec 23, 2011 3:06:44 GMT -5
I also have all 3 of my XPA-1s on spiked wooden/steel amp stands within just inches of the speakers being driven and I definately have the same random click....click.....click that the others on here are posting about, very annoying! ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) I'll try lossening the srews on the bottom to finger tight like someone else did I guess. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by guzz46 on Dec 23, 2011 4:07:17 GMT -5
I thought it could be the screws making the ping noise against the chassis as the heat sinks expand and contract so I put some rubbery washers on the five screws under each heat sink and did them up finger tight and I haven't heard them make a noise since, and its been about 5 days so far.
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Post by runnin17 on Dec 23, 2011 13:51:39 GMT -5
I thought it could be the screws making the ping noise against the chassis as the heat sinks expand and contract so I put some rubbery washers on the five screws under each heat sink and did them up finger tight and I haven't heard them make a noise since, and its been about 5 days so far. Amazing, look at that....a $5 fix for this annoying problem. Looks to me like all you Emo apologists can be quiet now. If emotiva cares about quality they would have this issue fixed. Don't tell me it is a property of the metals. I get that the metals expand at different rates, chemistry 101 and such; however, that doesn't mean there aren't ways of correcting this problem. If everyone wants to keep making excuses for emotiva then have at it. I will not be wasting anymore money on the company. Sad really, they did have potential. Take Anthem for example, their flagship pre-pro required a serial to USB adapter to run their auto speaker setup program. People soon found that not just any serial to USB adapter would work. Anthem did some research figured out which Serial to USB adapter always worked and THEN began shipping that adapter with every D2v they sold. That is what a stand-up company does. Emotiva needs to step up and fix the clicking issue. A response telling me their is nothing wrong with the internals doesn't cut it. This is an audiophile product. The clicking is causing me to immediately lose focus on the music; which IMO is the exact opposite of what an audiophile product should do.
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Post by House on Dec 23, 2011 14:23:46 GMT -5
so...how much did that anthem cost LMFAO!
the thing that i have noticed is TOO MANY people expect science/people/contstruction/electricity/ and everything else to be perfect....sorry but this world is nothing but a bunch of trials and errors....and well....if your this disgruntled with emotiva.....why dont you go rant somewhere else now that your done making you statement. :-) <--lol HA did i just use anthem and statement in the same paragraph.....
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Post by runnin17 on Dec 23, 2011 15:23:41 GMT -5
^ Oh look an emo fanboi.
No use arguing with people who are too drunk on the kool-aid for their own good. This will be my last post in this thread.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 23, 2011 15:46:30 GMT -5
^ Oh look an emo fanboi. No use arguing with people who are too drunk on the kool-aid for their own good. This will be my last post in this thread. Well why don't you give us a nice Christmas present and keep on runnin' and make it your last post here in the lounge? Hmmm? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Merry Christmas to you! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by House on Dec 23, 2011 16:51:08 GMT -5
^ Oh look an emo fanboi. No use arguing with people who are too drunk on the kool-aid for their own good. This will be my last post in this thread. proudly a fan.....been a "fan" of too many overpriced products in the past..... Merry Holiday ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by pbiancardi on Jul 19, 2024 7:05:41 GMT -5
Sorry to bump this but nowhere else to ask.
I just bought (2) XPA-1 Gen 1 used and one of them is doing this clicking. I assume this is the issue?
I never lose sound and it only seems to happen when watching movies, if I play music there is no clicking (is this because there is no heating up / cooling down with constant load as opposed to movies which sometimes have load on L/R and sometimes do not)?
Anyway my question is there anything I can or should tighten or do to minimize the clicking or just something I live with?
I guess the fact that both run and sound great in 2024 answers the longevity questions lol.
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 19, 2024 9:41:53 GMT -5
Sorry to bump this but nowhere else to ask. I just bought (2) XPA-1 Gen 1 used and one of them is doing this clicking. I assume this is the issue? I never lose sound and it only seems to happen when watching movies, if I play music there is no clicking (is this because there is no heating up / cooling down with constant load as opposed to movies which sometimes have load on L/R and sometimes do not)? Anyway my question is there anything I can or should tighten or do to minimize the clicking or just something I live with? I guess the fact that both run and sound great in 2024 answers the longevity questions lol. “Mine used to click every time I used them (quite loud sometimes) and even up to 8 hours after turning them off, but a couple of days ago I disconnected the amps and turned them on their side and loosened the five screws for each of the heat sinks on the bottom of the amp (they are about in line with the amps feet) and using a screw driver (just between my thumb and first finger) I did them up barely even finger tight and they haven't made a noise since.” …… Me thinks this is worth a try……
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Post by KeithL on Jul 19, 2024 14:36:56 GMT -5
It's definitely a possibility... The aluminum heat sinks and the steel chassis expand and contract at slightly different rates as they warm up and cool down. That tick you're hearing is the heat sink shifting a tiny bit when this happens. (It's clearly different than an electronic click or a relay clicking.) You can prevent this by loosening the screws that secure the heat sinks to the chassis VERY SLIGHTLY. This allows the heat sink to shift a tiny bit when it needs to. (You could actually loosen all but one screw on each heat sink.) Sorry to bump this but nowhere else to ask. I just bought (2) XPA-1 Gen 1 used and one of them is doing this clicking. I assume this is the issue? I never lose sound and it only seems to happen when watching movies, if I play music there is no clicking (is this because there is no heating up / cooling down with constant load as opposed to movies which sometimes have load on L/R and sometimes do not)? Anyway my question is there anything I can or should tighten or do to minimize the clicking or just something I live with? I guess the fact that both run and sound great in 2024 answers the longevity questions lol. “Mine used to click every time I used them (quite loud sometimes) and even up to 8 hours after turning them off, but a couple of days ago I disconnected the amps and turned them on their side and loosened the five screws for each of the heat sinks on the bottom of the amp (they are about in line with the amps feet) and using a screw driver (just between my thumb and first finger) I did them up barely even finger tight and they haven't made a noise since.” …… Me thinks this is worth a try……
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Post by leonski on Jul 19, 2024 15:23:43 GMT -5
is the 'click' more of a 'ping'......meaning it has a METALIC aspect? A cheap way to help trouble shoot? Get a sheet of EPP foam.....this is used in some packing and is NOT brittle like styrofoam..... Cut a bunch of small 'cubes', maybe 5 to 8mm thick and 10mm on a side. Slide INTO and between the fins..... Doesn't have to be jammed in, but firmly touching is fine. This'll decouple any vibes of the fins...... If this helps? Than pursue other finny solutions....... If Keith, above is on to it? Heat sink should have a strip of teflon between it and the chassis......I have some 8 mil Teflon Tape (adhesive backed) made by 3m..... www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/c/tapes/slick-surface/ptfe/ Product line has change since I bought mine, but it's pretty much the same stuff.....
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Post by rbk123 on Jul 28, 2024 20:57:27 GMT -5
I get this on one of my XPA-1's and it actually sounds like a relay. i.e. the sound after an amp powers on but then switches from protection mode to active. I was going to get around to asking about it, but this thread got bumped. Right now I'm too lazy to try anything.
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