Oppo BDP-95: First Impressions

[Porscheguy]

Thanks, great read!

[cgolf]

Jan 13, 2012 17:09:35 GMT -5 copperband said:

Jan 13, 2012 6:47:05 GMT -5 cgolf said:

Can you say anything about the SQ between the XDA and the 95 in your room and setup. Rooms and equipment aside, do you notice any difference either way between the 95 and the XDA?? Sounds like you do and that you like the 95 better.

Hi Cgolf, I am interested at your 93 & XDA if you sell them ;D

Will do if & when!!! ;D

[LCSeminole]

Nice write up Hemster!!! I would definitely be interested to hear for myself the analog outputs on this beast, as I believe this is the biggest difference compared to the BDP-93. As always, enjoy!!!

[monkumonku]

Jan 14, 2012 10:25:25 GMT -5 cgolf said:

Jan 13, 2012 17:09:35 GMT -5 copperband said:

Hi Cgolf, I am interested at your 93 & XDA if you sell them ;D

Will do if & when!!! ;D

Just edit your reply to say "When." ;D

[cgolf]

Jan 14, 2012 11:36:19 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Jan 14, 2012 10:25:25 GMT -5 cgolf said:

Will do if & when!!! ;D

Just edit your reply to say "When." ;D

Now now???!!!! ;D I have been thinking about that option for some time now but I sure am happy with the sound of the ERC. The XDA really hasn't added anything so it's already basically on the chopping block but the ERC made a huge difference over the 93.

[Deleted]

I think everyone should keep in mind that if your not going to be using the analog connections, there is no reason to go with the 95 over the 93. They are the same players minus the saber dac analog sections.

[cgolf]

Jan 14, 2012 13:26:26 GMT -5 @n8dogg said:

I think everyone should keep in mind that if your not going to be using the analog connections, there is no reason to go with the 95 over the 93. They are the same players minus the saber dac analog sections.

My thought is to use the 95 analogs for 2 channel. IF they give me as good a sound as the ERC does.

[sharkman]

Jan 14, 2012 12:29:23 GMT -5 cgolf said:

I have been thinking about that option for some time now but I sure am happy with the sound of the ERC. The XDA really hasn't added anything so it's already basically on the chopping block but the ERC made a huge difference over the 93.

A few previous threads have compared the ERC-1 and XDA-1 to the Oppo 95. The Oppo has come out on top consistantly, so I wonder what is happening in your system. You are using the analog outputs(not HDMI) for audio, right?

I found the Oppo to have a superior soundstage myself with a properly implemented volume control, unlike the XDA, which loses detail at lower volumes.

[Topend]

The Oppo 95, the XMC-1 or XSP-1 and s pair of XPA-1s would be the ideal combination.

Dave.

[cgolf]

Jan 14, 2012 14:42:08 GMT -5 sharkman said:

Jan 14, 2012 12:29:23 GMT -5 cgolf said:

I have been thinking about that option for some time now but I sure am happy with the sound of the ERC. The XDA really hasn't added anything so it's already basically on the chopping block but the ERC made a huge difference over the 93.

A few previous threads have compared the ERC-1 and XDA-1 to the Oppo 95. The Oppo has come out on top consistantly, so I wonder what is happening in your system. You are using the analog outputs(not HDMI) for audio, right?

I found the Oppo to have a superior soundstage myself with a properly implemented volume control, unlike the XDA, which loses detail at lower volumes.

I don't think anything is happening with my system that shouldn't be happening. What I'm saying is that the ERC sounds much better than the 93 analog or HDMI. However, adding the XDA to the mix along with the ERC doesn't enhance the SQ at all so it's on the chopping block if I can't find anywhere else to use it.

What I am still asking myself is would the 95 analogs give me as good or better SQ than the ERC....

[klinemj]

Thanks for the review, hemster!

You have me pretty excited to try the 95. And I just realized...to get the best of audio for 2-channel, I could hook the XLR outs to my XPA-2's in's directly. Hmm...that could be fun! I'd have to operate w/o my sub in that mode, but I wonder how good that sound might be! And, I would run RCA's to my USP-1 to include my sub in my 2.1 setup and run HDMI to the UMC-1 for multichannel.

Once I get back from my vacation in late Feb, I just might have to explore the 95 in person.

Mark

[harri009]

Jan 14, 2012 14:42:08 GMT -5 sharkman said:

Jan 14, 2012 12:29:23 GMT -5 cgolf said:

I have been thinking about that option for some time now but I sure am happy with the sound of the ERC. The XDA really hasn't added anything so it's already basically on the chopping block but the ERC made a huge difference over the 93.

A few previous threads have compared the ERC-1 and XDA-1 to the Oppo 95. The Oppo has come out on top consistantly, so I wonder what is happening in your system. You are using the analog outputs(not HDMI) for audio, right?

I found the Oppo to have a superior soundstage myself with a properly implemented volume control, unlike the XDA, which loses detail at lower volumes.

I disagree on the oppo 95 having a better soundstage compared to the ERC-1. I do agree that the XDA-1 adds nothing.

[hemster]

Jan 14, 2012 21:57:19 GMT -5 harri009 said:

Jan 14, 2012 14:42:08 GMT -5 sharkman said:

A few previous threads have compared the ERC-1 and XDA-1 to the Oppo 95. The Oppo has come out on top consistantly, so I wonder what is happening in your system. You are using the analog outputs(not HDMI) for audio, right?

I found the Oppo to have a superior soundstage myself with a properly implemented volume control, unlike the XDA, which loses detail at lower volumes.

I disagree on the oppo 95 having a better soundstage compared to the ERC-1. I do agree that the XDA-1 adds nothing.

OK. We all hear things differently.

So, have you tried to do an A/B test between the ERC-1 and the 95? In your room?

I feel that's the only way one can know the difference.

[harri009]

hemster I was not trying to rain on your parade, the 95 is a wonderful universal player. I do believe that in your situation where you have video and audio it may well be the best out there. But when you think about the price of the 95 and all its functions it must do compared to a stand alone cd player its pretty easy to see why it could possibly be out done in a 2 channel system. Who knows though maybe one change in the audio chain i.e. different speakers or a new amp etc. it could be a whole different experience.

[NorthStar]

Jan 14, 2012 21:57:19 GMT -5 harri009 said:

Jan 14, 2012 14:42:08 GMT -5 sharkman said:

A few previous threads have compared the ERC-1 and XDA-1 to the Oppo 95. The Oppo has come out on top consistantly, so I wonder what is happening in your system. You are using the analog outputs(not HDMI) for audio, right?

I found the Oppo to have a superior soundstage myself with a properly implemented volume control, unlike the XDA, which loses detail at lower volumes.

I disagree on the oppo 95 having a better soundstage compared to the ERC-1. I do agree that the XDA-1 adds nothing.

I knew that I read that before.

...And from a set of younger ears at that! Always a good augur.

Reason for edit: typo (previoulsy typed "augure", which is in French).

[hemster]

Jan 14, 2012 22:23:43 GMT -5 harri009 said:

hemster I was not trying to rain on your parade, the 95 is a wonderful universal player. I do believe that in your situation where you have video and audio it may well be the best out there. But when you think about the price of the 95 and all its functions it must do compared to a stand alone cd player its pretty easy to see why it could possibly be out done in a 2 channel system. Who knows though maybe one change in the audio chain i.e. different speakers or a new amp etc. it could be a whole different experience.

No worries! I agree with you. Hence my comment that we all hear different things. And I did say in my original post that in order to get the max out of the 95, the rest of the gear must be decent and not limiting.

But my question remains. One cannot state things unless one has experienced it. Right Bob? ;D

[NorthStar]

I just have to be careful on how I construct my phrasing, that's all.

And I learned, improved a lot in the last two years. ...Believe me.

...typo

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* I think that both the BDP-95 and ERC-1 are two great components, from what I have read.

** And my own personal choice would be to pick the BDP-95.
Because not only it excels at CD playback (again from what I've read), but also SACD, DVD-Audio, DVD Video, Blu-ray, HDCD, 3D, ... Two HDMI outs, Multichannel & Stereo analog outs, Balanced outs, USB, Firmware upgrades, and all that Jazz...

=> For only a thou (MSRP), it is an extremely good value.

[r1lee]

Jan 14, 2012 13:29:13 GMT -5 cgolf said:

Jan 14, 2012 13:26:26 GMT -5 @n8dogg said:

I think everyone should keep in mind that if your not going to be using the analog connections, there is no reason to go with the 95 over the 93. They are the same players minus the saber dac analog sections.

My thought is to use the 95 analogs for 2 channel. IF they give me as good a sound as the ERC does.

Actually if you do not have any EQ Room Correction software in use, and you don't care for the DD or DTS light to come on. Oppo recommends you use the player to do all the decoding of all your music/movies.

The Front L/R Channels for the 1st set of Sabers Dacs.
Your remaining 5 channels use the 2nd set of Saber Dacs

[NorthStar]

^ That, makes all the greatest sense in the world.

[Bruce]

Jan 16, 2012 14:28:50 GMT -5 r1lee said:

Jan 14, 2012 13:29:13 GMT -5 cgolf said:

My thought is to use the 95 analogs for 2 channel. IF they give me as good a sound as the ERC does.

Actually if you do not have any EQ Room Correction software in use, and you don't care for the DD or DTS light to come on. Oppo recommends you use the player to do all the decoding of all your music/movies.

The Front L/R Channels for the 1st set of Sabers Dacs.
Your remaining 5 channels use the 2nd set of Saber Dacs

This is the set up I am using and the 95 sounds great for music and BluRay.