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Post by wesm228 on Jan 19, 2012 0:59:38 GMT -5
I just purchased these within the hour. These will be my first timbre matched surrounds. I plan to mount them onto the side walls about 6.5 feet up as suggested in another thread. I couldn't pass up the clearance price. After going back and forth on changing and rearranging my setup for the last couple months, I'm glad I finally decided on something.
I was considering going for 6.2's for surround but that's another $400 vs. $249. Can't beat bang for buck and the di/bipole arrangement should work great. I've never owned this speaker type either so I shall see (hear).
I'm hoping to pick up a UPA-2 used to power them. I bought another set of black trim in anticipation of purchasing the amp. Spending that $20 is not easy but I gotta have symmetry and the silver look just isn't for me.
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Post by hemster on Jan 19, 2012 2:42:00 GMT -5
Congrats on the ERDs. You're right in thinking of a UPA-2 to power them - they're more than capable.
Think about the bipole/dipole setting long and hard before you mount the ERDs. It's not easy to flip the switch once they're mounted (switches are located on the back of the speaker, facing the wall).
I also changed the trims on mine, for custom ash wood ones that kazoo (a fellow lounger here) did for me.
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Post by Matt193 on Jan 19, 2012 22:14:23 GMT -5
Hemster, we need pics!
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 21, 2012 0:01:57 GMT -5
The ERD's came today. I just opened the box. Wow, from the packaging to the silky cloth covers, to the speakers themselves, these things are top notch. I will say they're much smaller than I was expecting though I've read they're very big sounding.
I still need an amp to power them, so I won't be able to hear them for a little though I suppose I could do a quick disconnect of my mains for fun.
I'm going to buy a stud finder tomorrow and then decide where on the side walls to mount them.
I'm waiting on a 100' roll of 14 gauge from Monoprice.
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Post by geebo on Jan 21, 2012 0:08:11 GMT -5
I think you're gonna like them just fine. I was surprised at how good they perform as surrounds. But then, thats what they were designed for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 1:02:43 GMT -5
You made the correct choice going for the ERD-1's for your surround speakers, regardless of price. The ERD-1 is Emotiva's dedicated surround speaker, the 6.2 being a direct radiating speaker is not as desirable for surround use. I'm a little confused about your LCR speakers since you only show 2 channels of amplification? Do you have only 2ea 6.2's as L&R with no center channel speaker? If you are using the phantom mode I would suggest another 6.2 (vertical or horizontal) as your center speaker. The ERD-1's and the 6.2's along the front are a great match. The ERD-1's are superb for both movies and multi-channel sound.
See page 19 of the owner's manual for the correct mounting and toggle settings. The side surrounds should be directly to the side (90 degrees) of the listening position.
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"Left Dipole or Right Dipole
This switch configuration places one of the tweeters out of polarity with the midrange driver and other tweeter. In this configuration, it's intended that the speakers mount at or above ear level directly to the sides of the listener and thereby defining a need for the dipole "null" effect. In the correct positioning with speakers mounted directly to the sides of the listener, the tweeter facing the rear of the room is the one that's out of polarity. This is the recommended configuration for Dolby or DTS based 5.1 systems with surround channels."
Note: The right side ERD-1 will have the left toggle down and the right toggle up. The left side ERD-1 will have the left toggle up and the right toggle down.
Also, loosen the four mounting screws slightly (a turn or two) on the back of the ERD-1's that fit into the keyholes on the bracket. They are a little snug/tight as is and backing them out ever so slightly will help slide the speaker down into place on the bracket.
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 21, 2012 3:36:16 GMT -5
Yes, I have only two 6.2's so phantom center. I would like to add a center and this is the reason I want to move to an XPA-5. I need three more channels of amplification and that's a lot more real estate on my stand and weight on glass shelves. Another thing is that I will need to buy an articulating wall mount for my plasma so I can place the center on the top of the stand. I was really hoping I could find an SS-6 stand to angle it upward but no luck as of yet. I will probably end up using Auralex Monitor pads underneath.
I'm really excited to hear these things and will have pics up as soon as they're mounted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 3:46:55 GMT -5
Do you now have the plasma on the wall or on a TV/component stand?
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 21, 2012 22:25:06 GMT -5
Chuckienut, it's on the tv stand.
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 21, 2012 22:30:38 GMT -5
TV Stand: Attachments:
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 21, 2012 22:32:30 GMT -5
Erd-1's: Attachments:
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 21, 2012 22:32:52 GMT -5
Rear: Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 4:56:34 GMT -5
Yes, I have only two 6.2's so phantom center. I would like to add a center and this is the reason I want to move to an XPA-5. I need three more channels of amplification and that's a lot more real estate on my stand and weight on glass shelves. Another thing is that I will need to buy an articulating wall mount for my plasma so I can place the center on the top of the stand. I was really hoping I could find an SS-6 stand to angle it upward but no luck as of yet. I will probably end up using Auralex Monitor pads underneath. I'm really excited to hear these things and will have pics up as soon as they're mounted. The reason I ask about the TV is I don't think you need to wall mount the TV. Simply jerry-rig a third upper shelf if there is room and tilt the 6.2 up slightly. If not enough room, place the 6.2 between the TV stand base and the top of the rack. That's going to raise the TV up about 9.25" but I see no problem with that if the top of the stand will support the weight of the TV (54.7lbs) plus the 6.2 (27lbs prox). With the 6.2 horizontal and the tweeter on top it should be close enough to the height of the tweeters in the L&R's. Black cushioned non-slip shelf liner cut to size should provide protection on top of and beneath the 6.2. Check with Emo about setting the TV on top of the 6.2 or a simple satin black wood framed 3 sided box with cushioned feet to support the TV with the 6.2 inside it should work with just enough extra space inside to tilt the 6.2 up slightly with shims. Plastic toilet commode shims painted black work great. Anything to avoid a TV wall mount IMO is good. ;D |
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 22, 2012 5:09:20 GMT -5
Oh, I can't stand the look of a wall mounted tv either. I don't like how it makes the tv look smaller also. The idea about the 3 sided box is really cool and I may just do that. I can't place the tv base directly onto the 6.2 as it is very long and would be hanging off and I doubt it would be very stable. An accident waiting to happen in other words, and definitely not pleasing to the eye. But that box you mention could very well work. I'm going to do some measuring. Thanks Chuckienut!
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Post by wesm228 on Jan 22, 2012 21:26:10 GMT -5
I bought a stud finder today. I was able to locate a stud on one of the side walls. The manual says studs are usually 16" to 24" apart and about 1.5" wide however I can't locate the other. Or at least the finder is not beeping like it did with the other. I turned the meter 90 degrees still facing the wall and went vertical to the ceiling and back down and the lights were going red consistently. It was about 16" from the other so I'm thinking that's the other one. The problem now is how to mount the bracket if only one side will mount to the stud. The bracket mounting holes are about 8" apart. I don't want to use a board underneath to tie the studs together and then mount the speakers to the board for aesthetic reasons. Should the side without stud have some sort of wall anchors? Also the ERD manual says not to use drywall screws. What can I use to secure the bracket to the stud?
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Post by hemster on Jan 23, 2012 0:31:05 GMT -5
I went with these for drywall. Very strong. I know.. overkill, but I usually do that in such cases.  For studs, 2 1/ 2" to 3" wood screws would work great. |
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Post by hemster on Jan 23, 2012 0:32:18 GMT -5
In my experience stud finders are hit and miss. To be sure you hit a stud, you may need to drill a small pilot hole.
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Post by pop on Jan 23, 2012 0:44:54 GMT -5
^ +1
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Post by roadrunner on Jan 23, 2012 2:07:12 GMT -5
The reason the Manual said not to use dry wall screws is because they have a counter-sink head on them. You need a flat screw head for the mounting plate's Key Hole opening to properly mate with the screw heads on the wall plate.
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