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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 10:00:00 GMT -5
I am looking to install a small home theater and would like some advice on what I have picked out. I am in the process of gutting my living room and currently have all the walls exposed to run cable. I have a rack in the basement just below the living room that I'd like like to store my pre/pro and amp. Here is what I have picked out:
Pre/Pro - XMC-1 Amp - XPA-5 Left/Right Ch. - XRT-6.2 X-Ref Towers Center - XRC-6.2 X-Ref Center/LCR Left/Right Sur. - UAW-8.2 In-Wall Sub - X-Ref 12 DSP Powered Subwoofer
Are there any concerns with this setup? Should I take anything else into account? How should I be connecting my amp to my pre/pro? I was considering using the XLR's. Is this appropriate?
I was planing on running two sets of speaker cable to each wall outlet location just in case and to have something to work with in the future.
Is it okay to run a long (30' maybe) XLR balanced cable in the wall from the pre/pro to my sub?
I noticed that a lot of pre/pros have 3.5mm IR inputs. Im looking to use a wireless IR repeater so I can use my remote controls from the living room to control the things in the rack in the basement. Is this what the IR port is for?
Thanks in advance. Any comments or advice would be much appreciated.
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Post by stads77 on Jul 25, 2012 10:16:23 GMT -5
I am sure you don't want to here this, but coming from in-ceiling surrounds for about a year all I can say is they suck compared to good dipole/bipoles. I had Martin Logan Helos (pr.) for my rears and never knew what i was missing until purchasing a pair of the xrs-4.1 bipole surrounds. I understand your limitations, thus probably choosing in-ceiling, but if you can try to find space for on-wall bipole do try Otherwise, that looks like a very well put together system. Congrats and enjoy!
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Post by stads77 on Jul 25, 2012 10:17:54 GMT -5
oops, just noticed they were in-wall not ceiling. Maybe you would not notice as much of a difference, but I still bet the bipole xrs would be best.
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Post by geebo on Jul 25, 2012 10:40:35 GMT -5
What is your room size?
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 10:46:05 GMT -5
Thanks. From what I can gather as long as the in-walls are positioned correctly, it should not be that big of a deal. I will have the in walls positioned at 90 degrees from the main viewing area only about 6 feet away at head height. Space is definitely an issue for the rears. one one side I could get away with a mounted speaker, but the other side would get in the way of a walking path. So I think I will have to go with some type of in wall so they match.
I have no experience, but in ceiling does't make sense to me for surrounds. I would think that the difference between an in wall and in ceiling would be pretty substantial. (I hope, at least, for my sake and taking account your experience) For music I bet they are great.
If anyone has the UAW-8.2 as surrounds and can comment that would be great.
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 10:47:31 GMT -5
Room is 17'x11.5'. TV will be placed one one end of the 17' length.
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Post by DYohn on Jul 25, 2012 10:55:32 GMT -5
My only inputs here are: 1) don't focus on the equipment, focus on the room. Equipment can be swapped in and out and changed as often as budget allows, the room is likely to be a one-shot thing. if you're dedicating a room from scratch, consider acoustic treatments and sound proofing for the room. 2) if you run ANY wire through the walls or ceiling or floors, make sure it is CL2 or CL3 rated or that it runs through the proper plenums to meet the building codes in your area.
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 11:15:00 GMT -5
My only inputs here are: 1) don't focus on the equipment, focus on the room. Equipment can be swapped in and out and changed as often as budget allows, the room is likely to be a one-shot thing. if you're dedicating a room from scratch, consider acoustic treatments and sound proofing for the room. 2) if you run ANY wire through the walls or ceiling or floors, make sure it is CL2 or CL3 rated or that it runs through the proper plenums to meet the building codes in your area. Thanks. The exterior walls will be sprayed with a closed cell expanding foam. The interior walls and ceiling are being sprayed with an open cell expanding foam. I planned on using regular drywall. Should this foam be sufficient. Ceiling is 2x8s and walls are 2x4s. I plan on using in wall rated cable. The speaker cable I planned on running up through the sole plate of the walls bare. They will be foamed over. All the tv low voltage will be in a 1.5" electrical PVC conduit. Do you see a problem with this?
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Post by geebo on Jul 25, 2012 13:38:17 GMT -5
Room is 17'x11.5'. TV will be placed one one end of the 17' length. The reason I was asking is whether one sub would be enough. So assuming 8' cielings you've got about 1564 cu ft. I think you should be okay with one XRef-12.
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Post by bootman on Jul 25, 2012 13:47:47 GMT -5
No issues running XLR cables that far. It is actually what they are designed for.
What solution are you planning for controlling the gear from upstairs?
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Post by DYohn on Jul 25, 2012 15:06:57 GMT -5
Do you see a problem with this? I don't know what the codes might require where you live. You might want to ask your home owners insurance carrier.
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 15:21:06 GMT -5
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 15:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by autiger on Jul 25, 2012 17:03:49 GMT -5
Instead if IR repeaters you might want to consider a RF (radio frequ) remote. My URC does both. I love being able to control everything w/o seeing the equip. I'll even go outside and listen/control zone 2. Just a consideration.
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Post by garbulky on Jul 25, 2012 17:12:47 GMT -5
If you can afford it I would put a want to buy thread on emotiva and attempt to purchase the ert 8.3 towers instead of what you have right now.
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Post by bootman on Jul 25, 2012 17:19:56 GMT -5
Those are designed to use small gauge 3 conductor wire. You solder the wire on and then use xlr cables on either end. I have never done this myself.
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Post by DYohn on Jul 25, 2012 17:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 17:51:24 GMT -5
Instead if IR repeaters you might want to consider a RF (radio frequ) remote. My URC does both. I love being able to control everything w/o seeing the equip. I'll even go outside and listen/control zone 2. Just a consideration. Hmm. This is interesting. How does it communicate? I get it's RF, but do you have to add anything to your receiver? Can you link me to what you have?
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Post by hemster on Jul 25, 2012 17:51:40 GMT -5
Instead if IR repeaters you might want to consider a RF (radio frequ) remote. My URC does both. I love being able to control everything w/o seeing the equip. I'll even go outside and listen/control zone 2. Just a consideration. +1. Unless the equipment is directly within eyesight (preferably in front) RF is the way to go. I love the URC and their build quality is excellent.
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Post by Combobreaker on Jul 25, 2012 17:54:46 GMT -5
Those are designed to use small gauge 3 conductor wire. You solder the wire on and then use xlr cables on either end. I have never done this myself. So any in-wall rated, thee conductor cable is okay. I don't need to get some type of special cable, correct?
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