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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 8, 2012 17:35:02 GMT -5
I read somewhere that a XSP-1 preamp is in the works. From the mock-up shown, the unit lacks DACs  This is the 21st century, a growing minority (soon to be the majority) no longer move music in analog format until it hits the power amp or preamp sections. Why isn't a DAC to be incorporated in the XSP-1? |
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 8, 2012 17:36:49 GMT -5
Because having DACs in an analog pre-amplifier would be heresy. That's why there is an XDA-1 currently and a XDA-2 on the horizon.
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 8, 2012 17:42:01 GMT -5
Fewer boxes is better boxes in my experience. Give me an "Emograted" amp with DACs, bass-management, preamp, and amps in a single unit & Emotiva has yet ANOTHER sale!
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 8, 2012 17:46:44 GMT -5
That is the antithesis of separates. May I recommend a AVR of your choosing?
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Post by wcparks on Aug 8, 2012 17:50:28 GMT -5
When you start to put everything into one something has to give. Price, Size, quality and in the end it ends up being like most receivers,
Long live separates.
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 8, 2012 17:56:17 GMT -5
Separates allow you to have an al a carte of technology and capability that fits your needs and budget. If you don't need an analog pre-amp, you don't have to spend the extra money on one. Whereas, if the pre-amp had both digital and analog capabilities, all other parameters being the same, you'd be paying $900 for a analog section you wouldn't need or $400 for a digital you wouldn't need. Likewise, if a new digital interface comes to the forefront and your DAC doesn't/can't interface with it, you'd have to buy a new pre-amp for $1,300 instead of just that module for $400.
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Post by Dark Ranger on Aug 8, 2012 18:44:46 GMT -5
To OP: If you want DACs, I recommend you look at the XMC-1 instead. It will give you both analog and digital preamp capabilities. The XSP-1 is for folks who have an analog-based system. Think turn-tables and high-end analog sources (or high-quality analog output, like the Oppo BDP-95).  |
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Post by rclark on Aug 8, 2012 18:51:04 GMT -5
....because then you'd be stuck with THAT dac. The whole point of seperates is that you can find what works for you and optimize all your parts. Not a whole lot of audiophiles want an all in one box. The low end of the market would like it, your best buy customer, but not most audiophiles.
I do not want a dac included in my preamp.
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Post by kzone on Aug 8, 2012 19:05:55 GMT -5
Yeah, the xmc would serve the needs of those looking for a one box wonder. As it is, I'm already a little disappointed that there is tone control on the xsp. Was hoping for a purist preamp without any features at all... And separate add on products for equalizers, room correction etc...
Will likely buy the xsp blind if it comes out before the end of year.
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Post by RightinLA on Aug 8, 2012 19:13:59 GMT -5
I still want some bass/treble control as a minimum and preferably room correction. No one can create a perfect space yet modern electronics can make up for many room imperfections as well as accommodating for user taste in sound.
I can sympathize with Boomzilla on this and I suggest that he might take a good look at the HK990 for a stereo integrated amp and see if that is more to his liking.
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 8, 2012 19:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by kzone on Aug 8, 2012 20:39:17 GMT -5
I still want some bass/treble control as a minimum and preferably room correction. No one can create a perfect space yet modern electronics can make up for many room imperfections as well as accommodating for user taste in sound. the problem with tone control is you cant specify the frequency you want boosted or reduced.. yeah, room correction is useful though at this price point I'm concerned we wont get the best if its being added in as a feature so would rather that it comes as a separate in its full glory |
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Post by Entity on Aug 8, 2012 21:55:38 GMT -5
So don't use them? Many of us would like to have some kind of tone controls to help tailor the music to our taste. |
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Post by kzone on Aug 8, 2012 22:14:09 GMT -5
Good for most that it's there... Yup, won't use them. I hope that the bypass mode is as direct as it would be in a "purist" preamp.
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Post by speeber on Jul 3, 2022 17:04:21 GMT -5
how to drive two epa-2 with one xsp-1 . this would be for running two sets of speakers
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Post by novisnick on Jul 3, 2022 18:01:21 GMT -5
how to drive two epa-2 with one xsp-1 . this would be for running two sets of speakers Your question is unclear. Do you want to switch between two separate sets of speakers or two sets of speakers playing the same thing? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 3, 2022 21:00:52 GMT -5
how to drive two epa-2 with one xsp-1 . this would be for running two sets of speakers Having no idea what an epa-2 is (XPA-2?), I’m going to guess a power amp. So three options I see are: 1) XSP-1 > Bal out > XLR Y Cable > Y to each EPA-2. 2) XSP-1 > RCA out > RCA Y Cable > Y to each EPA-2 3) XSP-1 > Bal out > XLR > EPA-2 (assuming it has Bal in) 3) XSP-1 > RCA out > RCA > EPA-2 (assuming it also has RCA in)) |
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Post by leonski on Jul 4, 2022 21:15:40 GMT -5
That is the antithesis of separates. May I recommend a AVR of your choosing? AVRs have some issues, IMO. Like ability to drive less than 'easy' speaker loads. Anything with reasonable reactance or even impedance dips below 3 or so ohms? Sorry, HT not qualified. I won't even get into the weird power ratings. 2-channel? All driven? And nothing under 6 ohms need apply. That and later repairs become an issue as proprietary parts and such a flushed out of the system.....Can't get a fix if you can't get the Part~ Me? A good amp will go thru several 'cycles' of prepro or other preamp..... A first-line sub should go quite a while, too. A middle ground between mono amps per speaker and seperate everything else.....maybe found with a good multi channel amp and a good prepro bought with upgrade potential and repairability..... |
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Post by creimes on Jul 6, 2022 9:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by DavidR on Jul 6, 2022 11:33:18 GMT -5
Yes, supposedly they are working on a replacement for the G2 model. You'd think that it would have been all designed BEFORE they ended the G2 model.
I agree a DAC should be built in but I'd also settle for a stand alone DAC BUT I'm not holding my breath for any earth shaking stereo equipment.
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