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Oct 16, 2013 17:30:22 GMT -5
Post by klinemj on Oct 16, 2013 17:30:22 GMT -5
I have only tested with each going into the XSP-1. But, I would say the X is as close to a straight line through as one can get if running XLR's (which is what I tested).
And, the DC-1 was better on soundstage (width, depth, and separation), clarity, and bass.
Mark
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 20:10:54 GMT -5
Post by pdaddy on Oct 16, 2013 20:10:54 GMT -5
I wonder if it would make a difference if I replaced my XDA 1 with the DC1, using it with my ERC2 ? Sean, I will have one tomorrow if you want to borrow for some A/B testing sometime. |
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Oct 16, 2013 20:22:36 GMT -5
Post by klinemj on Oct 16, 2013 20:22:36 GMT -5
I never compared my ERC-2 through my XSP-1 vs. my ERC-2 through the DC-1 to the XSP-1...but I did compare my ERC-2 to my XSP-1 w/the ERC playing CD's vs. my DC-1 to my XSP-1 playing FLAC rips of the very same CD's. The DC-1 won for the same reasons I noted over the 105.
Mark
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Post by creimes on Oct 16, 2013 20:27:11 GMT -5
The ERC-3 is supposed to have the same DAC as the DC-1 right, wonder if they will sound similar then. Hey maybe they should change the name to EDC-3 then....  |
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 20:28:37 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Oct 16, 2013 20:28:37 GMT -5
The ERC-3 is supposed to have the same DAC as the DC-1 right, wonder if they will sound similar then. Hey maybe they should change the name to EDC-3 then.... Is this true? And confirmed? peace, Nick Should I wait? i was looking at an XSP-1 and DC-1 and go home broke for the next 6 -12 months or so? |
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Oct 16, 2013 20:40:32 GMT -5
Post by klinemj on Oct 16, 2013 20:40:32 GMT -5
That is what was said at Emofest.
Mark
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Oct 16, 2013 20:46:53 GMT -5
Post by creimes on Oct 16, 2013 20:46:53 GMT -5
The ERC-3 is supposed to have the same DAC as the DC-1 right, wonder if they will sound similar then. Hey maybe they should change the name to EDC-3 then.... Is this true? And confirmed? peace, Nick Should I wait? i was looking at an XSP-1 and DC-1 and go home broke for the next 6 -12 months or so? Just wait and grab the new ERC-3 when released before Xmas and a XSP-1, those with your XPR-1's would be killer setup man, one of the best you could put together through Emotiva I'm sure, or grab the XSP-1 now while it's in stock(lol) and the ERC-3 later. Chad |
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 21:04:31 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Oct 16, 2013 21:04:31 GMT -5
Is this true? And confirmed? peace, Nick Should I wait? i was looking at an XSP-1 and DC-1 and go home broke for the next 6 -12 months or so? Just wait and grab the new ERC-3 when released before Xmas and a XSP-1, those with your XPR-1's would be killer setup man, one of the best you could put together through Emotiva I'm sure, or grab the XSP-1 now while it's in stock(lol) and the ERC-3 later. Chad Hi Chad, Do you know if it's true about the ERC-3? I like your thinking here! I want to run a balanced system so I think I'll get the XSP-1 now, but man the Pre-1 sounds really good but I know it's not balanced so I guess there is one for sale from me. What's your thoughts about price for the ERC-3? I do have an Oppo 103 and I plan on a Mac mini in the future, any guess as to the number of inputs for the DAC on the ERC-3? Do I need another CD player? Oug!! WHAT TO DO? Nick |
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Post by creimes on Oct 16, 2013 21:10:06 GMT -5
HuH..no the ERC-3 is a CD player with the DAC from the DC-1 built into it, it might do SACD as well but can't remember exactly and I'm pretty sure there are no inputs, Mark knows more as he's a;ways on top of these things lol |
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 21:36:56 GMT -5
Post by aztecax on Oct 16, 2013 21:36:56 GMT -5
I've not compared my dc-1 to an oppo 95 but I can say the dc-1 sounds better than my oppo 105. Mark Damn. This is surprising to hear. I have a 103 I use for my DAC and have been pining over the 105 due to its SQ. But the Stealth is even better than that? Hmm. |
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 21:42:46 GMT -5
Post by tjhenry on Oct 16, 2013 21:42:46 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm not trying to steer the thread in a different direction, but I'm curious what comparisons have been made by DC-1 owners to other DACs or similar equipment (like the Oppo 105). I've read through lots of pages and so far the only comparison I've found is the DC-1 to the Oppo 105. It would be great if users would add their comparisons to this thread.
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 22:09:19 GMT -5
Post by GreenKiwi on Oct 16, 2013 22:09:19 GMT -5
I believe that there have been a few others. One of the DC-1 to XDA-1... don't know if there's one with the XDA-2 or not.
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DC-1
Oct 16, 2013 22:54:39 GMT -5
Post by garbulky on Oct 16, 2013 22:54:39 GMT -5
I've not compared my dc-1 to an oppo 95 but I can say the dc-1 sounds better than my oppo 105. Mark Damn. This is surprising to hear. I have a 103 I use for my DAC and have been pining over the 105 due to its SQ. But the Stealth is even better than that? Hmm. The DC-1 is pretty special  It's biggest difference (vs the XDA-1) is The human voice - a sort of coherency/lack of thin-ness. Instrument placement, Better behaved treble (I would have never known it wasn't "behaved" if I hadn't compared it) Ability to play really loud while holding it together. |
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DC-1
Oct 17, 2013 1:10:46 GMT -5
Post by Emosean on Oct 17, 2013 1:10:46 GMT -5
I wonder if it would make a difference if I replaced my XDA 1 with the DC1, using it with my ERC2 ? Sean, I will have one tomorrow if you want to borrow for some A/B testing sometime. Sounds good Andrew I'm flying out Friday, back on Tuesday.. |
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Oct 17, 2013 5:22:36 GMT -5
Post by klinemj on Oct 17, 2013 5:22:36 GMT -5
Tjhenry...at various places around the forum there are comparisons of the dc-1 to other dac's. Notably a shootout vs. Many others by jlafrenz. I will look for that link tonight.
Mark
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Oct 17, 2013 7:16:19 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 7:16:19 GMT -5
I believe that there have been a few others. One of the DC-1 to XDA-1... don't know if there's one with the XDA-2 or not. this is a quote from KeithL " I must say (to be honest) that I DID hear a "night and day" difference between the DC-1 and the XDA-2 .... (with the DC-1 coming out on top). but, of course, your results - and how you experience and prioritize them - may well vary considerably." |
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DC-1
Oct 17, 2013 9:35:19 GMT -5
Post by jeffnyc on Oct 17, 2013 9:35:19 GMT -5
Would appreciate thoughts on some options I'm considering (for Magnepan 1.7, all music from Mac):
1) USP-1, Music Fidelity VDAC II (more flexible for upgrading DAC and other components in the future?)
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2) DC-1 (more direct?)
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DC-1
Oct 17, 2013 10:18:47 GMT -5
Post by garbulky on Oct 17, 2013 10:18:47 GMT -5
Would appreciate thoughts on some options I'm considering (for Magnepan 1.7, all music from Mac): 1) USP-1, Music Fidelity VDAC II (more flexible for upgrading DAC and other components in the future?) or 2) DC-1 (more direct?) I've never heard the vdac. But if you get the DC-1, I think the USP-1 may be a limiter for it. This may help you emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/33501/garbulkys-review-love-female-voiceIn terms of upgrading from the XDA-1 I posted: "Let’s put it this way. I have the XDA-1 and use it with the UPA-2. I’ve used it with a passive pre-amp to get over the digital volume control. I used it with the USP-1 and an XPA-2. That right there is over a thousand dollars of equipment connected to it and it showed. The XPA-2 was really fast. The DC-1 connected just to the UPA-2 bought more of an improvement than using the USP-1 and XPA-2. That’s how good the DC-1 is. It’s the best sound I have heard yet. At $700 one has to get a bit critical. But it’s hard. Let’s just say it’s not perfection or the ultimate DAC. But it’s worth the money and I can see it’s real selling price at being around $1300. It’s better than the XDA-1 by a significant margin. I am PICKY about my sound. And right now the DC-1 is not leaving the system until it has to. I can’t say the same about other stuff that I liked. " |
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Oct 17, 2013 11:10:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 11:10:16 GMT -5
Would appreciate thoughts on some options I'm considering (for Magnepan 1.7, all music from Mac): 1) USP-1, Music Fidelity VDAC II (more flexible for upgrading DAC and other components in the future?) or 2) DC-1 (more direct?) I've never heard the vdac. But if you get the DC-1, I think the USP-1 may be a limiter for it. This may help you emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/33501/garbulkys-review-love-female-voiceIn terms of upgrading from the XDA-1 I posted: "Let’s put it this way. I have the XDA-1 and use it with the UPA-2. I’ve used it with a passive pre-amp to get over the digital volume control. I used it with the USP-1 and an XPA-2. That right there is over a thousand dollars of equipment connected to it and it showed. The XPA-2 was really fast. The DC-1 connected just to the UPA-2 bought more of an improvement than using the USP-1 and XPA-2. That’s how good the DC-1 is. It’s the best sound I have heard yet. At $700 one has to get a bit critical. But it’s hard. Let’s just say it’s not perfection or the ultimate DAC. But it’s worth the money and I can see it’s real selling price at being around $1300. It’s better than the XDA-1 by a significant margin. I am PICKY about my sound. And right now the DC-1 is not leaving the system until it has to. I can’t say the same about other stuff that I liked. " just an FYI while speaking with Chad in Emo tech support (I think that was his name) he said the USP-1 would definitley NOT be a limiter for the DC-1...I am hoping he is correct  |
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