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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 20, 2012 9:27:03 GMT -5
I too prefer the max power on volume option. This way you never have to worry about it turning on too loud. Yes, you do have to turn it up each time you use it, but I would rather do that than the other option. Also, if you use a universal remote, it may still be going through commands while the processor is powering up (with volume increasing) and not give the user control of the unit and the ability of decrease the volume.
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Post by mgbpuff on Dec 20, 2012 10:08:15 GMT -5
Just ordered a new UMC-200 to replace the bedroom system's UMC-1. Used one of my two 40% discount cards (reserving one for the XMC-1).
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Post by richardrc on Dec 20, 2012 17:56:28 GMT -5
My el-cheapo Onkyo AVR has two nice volume-related settings: Power-on volume and Max volume. The first one keeps you from being scared out of your skin at power on and the 2nd keeps the babysitter's boyfriend from blowing up your system. These would seem to be fairly easy to implement in the firmware... -RW- I requested a similar feature along with child locking for the umc-1. With so much power on tap it with our amps and so many settings to muck up it seems like a reasonable request
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Post by Lonnie on Dec 20, 2012 18:04:00 GMT -5
My el-cheapo Onkyo AVR has two nice volume-related settings: Power-on volume and Max volume. The first one keeps you from being scared out of your skin at power on and the 2nd keeps the babysitter's boyfriend from blowing up your system. These would seem to be fairly easy to implement in the firmware... -RW- I requested a similar feature along with child locking for the umc-1. With so much power on tap it with our amps and so many settings to muck up it seems like a reasonable request They do have a lock out feature.
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Post by richardrc on Dec 21, 2012 18:02:56 GMT -5
Thanks Lonnie, excellent news for UMC-200 owners.
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Post by repeetavx on Dec 21, 2012 23:46:15 GMT -5
Yep, preset power-up volume. Another vote from me.
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Post by frenchyfranky on Dec 23, 2012 10:22:56 GMT -5
The UMC-200 was designed to be powerful, yet simple to use. I'm going to avoid calling the UMC-200 "entry level" because that implies entry level performance. The simple reality is that most people don't need a huge selection of features that they don't actually use, but that make setup and operation more complicated. What the UMC-200 is is *streamlined*. However, just like with a new car, some of the "convenience features" of the UMC-200 may seem a bit confusing - until you get used to them. This thread will be dedicated to talking about some of the cool things that the UMC-200 does, and explaining how they work. Does the UMC-200 have the all channels stereo ( 7.1 channels stereo ) feature for playing 2 channel source into loud party music, like many receivers have it? The UMC-1 doesn't have it and it's a missing feature for me and I think for many other peoples.
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 23, 2012 15:17:18 GMT -5
Frenchyfranky
Yes, the UMC-200 was reported to have "Party Mode" when this question was asked at Emofest 2012. Party mode will take the input signal from a stereo source and send it to all the configured speakers. I have only quickly scanned the User's Manual and do not remember if it defines all the modes that are available from any particular input. I would imagine that you will find that option in the advanced modes during the set-up routine.
If you have not been able to find it while performing your set-up you may want to call or e-mail Emotiva and inquire about how to use the "Party Mode". You could also use Dolby Pro Logic IIx or Dolby Pro Logic IIz to have it matrix the additional channels when it stereo signal is input.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 23, 2012 19:27:01 GMT -5
I'm with many of you on the power on volume; others have had it for years: Power On: -30 (or whatever), Max Volume: 0 (etc.). I personally would never want previous volume as I may not remember where I left it, and others may not want it where I left it. I would not consider the "dive for the remote" a 'cool feature' (sorry Keith ). I mention this in hopes the XMC-1 might be different.
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Post by KeithL on Dec 26, 2012 17:52:06 GMT -5
When you run EmoQ, the first sequence of noises is a gradually increasing set of test signals which are used to determine a good level for EmoQ to run at. They increase up to a reasonable level at which to preform the test, and then level off. This level shouldn't be anywhere near loud enough to damage your speakers. My el-cheapo Onkyo AVR has two nice volume-related settings: Power-on volume and Max volume. The first one keeps you from being scared out of your skin at power on and the 2nd keeps the babysitter's boyfriend from blowing up your system. These would seem to be fairly easy to implement in the firmware... -RW- I could be mistaken, but I know the DMR-1 does the first item, and also the second. Since you will almost always adjust the volume on power up, why not have it come on at a 'reasonable' level then make it louder if needed. I have it set so when I turn eveything on, Pandora is already at the volume I want. Of course, when a really good tune comes on, I crank it up to rock concert level. Think how handy it would be when running Emo-Q calibration, to not have the volume get to a level that may blow one of your speakers.
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Post by KeithL on Dec 26, 2012 17:54:09 GMT -5
Well, yeah, the XMC-1 is more than twice the price, and our flagship product, so it's fair to assume that it might have a FEW even better features. I'm with many of you on the power on volume; others have had it for years: Power On: -30 (or whatever), Max Volume: 0 (etc.). I personally would never want previous volume as I may not remember where I left it, and others may not want it where I left it. I would not consider the "dive for the remote" a 'cool feature' (sorry Keith ). I mention this in hopes the XMC-1 might be different.
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Post by LCSeminole on Dec 26, 2012 18:03:26 GMT -5
The UMC-200 was designed to be powerful, yet simple to use. I'm going to avoid calling the UMC-200 "entry level" because that implies entry level performance. The simple reality is that most people don't need a huge selection of features that they don't actually use, but that make setup and operation more complicated. What the UMC-200 is is *streamlined*. However, just like with a new car, some of the "convenience features" of the UMC-200 may seem a bit confusing - until you get used to them. This thread will be dedicated to talking about some of the cool things that the UMC-200 does, and explaining how they work. Does the UMC-200 have the all channels stereo ( 7.1 channels stereo ) feature for playing 2 channel source into loud party music, like many receivers have it? The UMC-1 doesn't have it and it's a missing feature for me and I think for many other peoples. Yes it does have the "All Stereo" DSP you are referring. I'm listening to music from the UMC-200 in that mode as I type.
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Post by gaetan on Dec 28, 2012 9:25:19 GMT -5
IOn my umc 200 manual...it states that if using a 5.1 set up...you can't have rear only speakers. Does this mean I hook up my rears to the outputs normally used for the side speakers? I have played three movies now,all say dolby digital on the package... One would only play sound in direct,stereo, the others say PLII on the umc200 window. I went into menu /mode and tried to change to any other movie such as dolby but it would not allow. I am wondering if my Blue ray is at fault or something in the UMC200...this should not be this difficult.
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Post by davidas6350 on Dec 28, 2012 10:17:02 GMT -5
IOn my umc 200 manual...it states that if using a 5.1 set up...you can't have rear only speakers. Does this mean I hook up my rears to the outputs normally used for the side speakers? I have played three movies now,all say dolby digital on the package... One would only play sound in direct,stereo, the others say PLII on the umc200 window. I went into menu /mode and tried to change to any other movie such as dolby but it would not allow. I am wondering if my Blue ray is at fault or something in the UMC200...this should not be this difficult. Yes, connect them to the side surround. The rear surround are addition to the 5.1 that's why you can't have them unless you have the sides first.
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Post by moovtune on Dec 28, 2012 10:59:22 GMT -5
But you can place the side surrounds more to the rear if that's where you want them and don't have rear speakers.
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Post by alhull on Dec 29, 2012 18:45:15 GMT -5
The UMC-200 has a mode called "All Stereo" which is your 2-channel source fed to all speakers, aka Party Mode.
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Post by meldhache on Dec 30, 2012 19:51:07 GMT -5
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Post by KeithL on Dec 31, 2012 10:26:35 GMT -5
1) In general, side surrounds are always considered to be "higher priority" than rear surrounds (this means that, if you only have two surround speakers, they should be considered to be "side surrounds" - no matter where they happen to actually be). Therefore you can tell the UMC-200 it has side surrounds and no rear surrounds (which is normal 5.1), but you cannot tell it that it has rear surrounds but no side surrounds. The configuration screens will not allow you to do so. This is pretty normal behavior for a pre/pro. At this point we're talking about physical speakers. 2) The UMC-200 always offers you a choice of valid modes based on your input signal. Many DVD and Blu-Ray DISCS offer a choice of different audio modes (this is on the Setup or Audio menu for the individual disc when you play it, and is different for each disc). Some discs, for example, may offer "Stereo PCM" or "Dolby Digital". On such a disc your player will ONLY send out the type of signal you select; the UMC-200 will then offer you a choice of valid modes FOR THAT SIGNAL TYPE. For example, if you select "Stereo PCM" as the output type for a specific disc, your Blu-Ray player will send a stereo PCM signal to the UMC-200, and the UMC-200 will offer Stereo and PLIIx (which are valid modes for a stereo input), but won't offer Dolby Digital, because that is only a valid mode for a Dolby Digital input. In addition, your Blu-Ray player may have options that affect this, and some players may automatically use the same mode for a disc as you selected the last time you played that disc (you'll have to read your player manual for those details). IOn my umc 200 manual...it states that if using a 5.1 set up...you can't have rear only speakers. Does this mean I hook up my rears to the outputs normally used for the side speakers? I have played three movies now,all say dolby digital on the package... One would only play sound in direct,stereo, the others say PLII on the umc200 window. I went into menu /mode and tried to change to any other movie such as dolby but it would not allow. I am wondering if my Blue ray is at fault or something in the UMC200...this should not be this difficult.
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Post by KeithL on Dec 31, 2012 10:44:30 GMT -5
OK, here's another one of those cool little features that you don't have to turn on; it's just part of how the UMC-200 works.
Let's say you're listening to the big game on the radio, and you want to see the TV footage, but you'd still prefer to listen to your favorite radio commentator.... On the UMC-200, if you're watching (and listening to) a video source (like Cable), and you switch to another source that is audio-only, the video from your previous choice will continue to play (instead of a blank screen). In my example, you could put on the Cable coverage of the game, then switch to the radio, and the Cable video will keep playing.
This is also great if you have some cool mood videos (woods, or waterfalls, or whatever); you can leave them on the screen while you listen to your favorite music.
Or, let's say you're waiting for the game to come on.... You can leave the video for the sports channel on-screen and listen to music while keeping an eye out for the game to start. Then, when the game starts, re-select that input to switch back to the audio that goes with the game.
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Post by KeithL on Dec 31, 2012 10:52:58 GMT -5
OK, here's another one of those cool little features that you don't have to turn on; it's just part of how the UMC-200 works.
Let's say you're listening to the big game on the radio, and you want to see the TV footage, but you'd still prefer to listen to your favorite radio commentator.... On the UMC-200, if you're watching (and listening to) a video source (like Cable), and you switch to another source that is audio-only, the video from your previous choice will continue to play (instead of a blank screen). In my example, you could put on the Cable coverage of the game, then switch to the radio, and the Cable video will keep playing.
This is also great if you have some cool mood videos (woods, or waterfalls, or whatever); you can leave them on the screen while you listen to your favorite music.
Or, let's say you're waiting for the game to come on.... You can leave the video for the sports channel on-screen and listen to music while keeping an eye out for the game to start. Then, when the game starts, re-select that input to switch back to the audio that goes with the game.
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