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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 17:14:35 GMT -5
I'm assuming the PEQ is sweepable although I can't find anything about that? How far is the "sweep" on each of the bands? Also, The cut/boost is how many db?
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Post by Andrew Robinson on May 24, 2013 17:25:16 GMT -5
I'm assuming the PEQ is sweepable although I can't find anything about that? How far is the "sweep" on each of the bands? Also, The cut/boost is how many db? I'm not in front of my PA-7030 right this second, but the sweeps are plentiful, but not 100 percent assignable. Say for example you need to apply 3 filters within a relatively small frequency range; via the 7030 you may only be able to accommodate two of the three. As for cut and boost I believe they're all plus or minus 25dB (if memory serves me). |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 19:37:49 GMT -5
I understand there are 7 bands per speaker. Is that right? It would be informative to have some exact details on the PEQ's
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Post by cwt on May 25, 2013 1:33:06 GMT -5
I understand there are 7 bands per speaker. Is that right? It would be informative to have some exact details on the PEQ's The manual isnt explicit about the frequency ranges or q islandman but heres an edit from it ; An example in the manual had these arbitrary frequencies listed to give you a rough idea ; 40/60/100/120/160/1.3k/1.75k/4k/10k/16k . The peq is individually adjustable per channel as you know and its heartening that the gradations are finer where it will do the most good ie the sub frequencies  Anyone determined what codecs are ok yet ;flac ? |
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Post by srrndhound on May 25, 2013 2:34:26 GMT -5
An example in the manual had these arbitrary frequencies listed to give you a rough idea ; 40/60/100/120/160/1.3k/1.75k/4k/10k/16k. Looks the same as the Rotel RSP1572 for the default frequencies. Maybe the similarity goes deeper. Here's what the Rotel manual states: BAND 1 Freq : 20Hz - 80Hz, 1Hz Step Default 40 Hz
BAND 2 Freq: 20Hz - 80Hz, 1Hz Step Default 60 Hz
BAND 3 Freq: 81Hz - 140Hz, 1Hz Step Default 100 Hz
BAND 4 Freq: 81Hz - 140Hz, 1Hz Step Default 120 Hz
BAND 5 Freq: 141Hz - 200Hz, 1Hz Step Default 160 Hz
BAND 6 Freq: 1110Hz - 1550 Hz, 10Hz Step Default 1300 Hz
BAND 7 Freq: 1560Hz - 2000 Hz, 10Hz Step Default 1750 Hz
BAND 8 Freq: 2.1kHz - 8kHz, 100Hz Step Default 4k Hz
BAND 9 Freq: 8.1kHz - 14kHz, 100Hz Step Default 10k Hz
BAND 10 Freq: 14.1kHz - 20kHz, 100Hz Step Default 16k Hz
Q : 1 - 24
Gain : -12dB - 0 - +3dBUnfortunately, 200 Hz to 1.1 kHz has no coverage. That seems dumb. In my setup, I use a band at 370 Hz. Luckily, even though it only has 5 bands, every one of them can span 20 Hz - 20 kHz. |
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Post by cwt on May 25, 2013 4:53:13 GMT -5
Unfortunately, 200 Hz to 1.1 kHz has no coverage. That seems dumb. In my setup, I use a band at 370 Hz. Luckily, even though it only has 5 bands, every one of them can span 20 Hz - 20 kHz. Recognise the parametric traits of a ssp800 surroundhound ;)That is the question ;how variable are the center frequencies and can they cover the lower midrange adequately ? I wonder if the [ostensibly because of the center frequencies] same oem processor chip is programmed differently between the 2 brands ;curious |
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Post by srrndhound on May 25, 2013 15:34:00 GMT -5
Recognise the parametric traits of a ssp800 surroundhound ;)That is the question ;how variable are the center frequencies and can they cover the lower midrange adequately ? The SSP's PEQ: 1 Hz steps 1 Hz - 200 Hz 10 Hz steps 200 Hz - 2 kHz 100 Hz steps 2 kHz - 20 kHz Certainly there is nothing in the Cirrus DSP preventing PEQ bands covering 200 Hz - 1.1 kHz. Looking at the CS49700 literature, it shows an example of the PEQ settings with a band at 800 Hz. Also, when I copied the SSP PEQ settings over to the UMC-200, it happily supported a band at 374 Hz. So it's not the Cirrus DSPs that are the limiting factor. I think someone at Rotel was simply trying to help simplify something that did not need simplifying. Whether that carried over to the Sherbourn has yet to be determined. Andrew can easily find out. |
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Post by cwt on May 25, 2013 23:08:39 GMT -5
Yes the ssp 800 has well thought out ranges concentrating on the lower frequencies . When you mentioned the cirrus cs49700 I can understand how the programming is paramount . I recently sold a cary 11a[cs49700] and its room eq wasnt parametric only graphic and it had these center frequencies - 80Hz, 160Hz, 250Hz, 500Hz, 1KHz, 2KHz, 4KHz, 8KHz, 12KHz and 16KHz . Strangely couldnt be applied to a movie dolby or dts signal either only straight lpcm  music oriented was the blurb. That chip helped steer me towards the 200 as it had identical double chip processing power as well and I needed more than 2 hdmi inputs  |
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Post by srrndhound on May 26, 2013 0:08:48 GMT -5
Yes the ssp 800 has well thought out ranges concentrating on the lower frequencies .  Just to clarify, the SS-800 does not concentrate on the low frequencies. All that's different is the SSP allows each of its 5 bands to freely span the entire 1 Hz - 20 kHz range, with no gaps, and it also has 5 bands for the subwoofer. I see nothing in the Cirrus literature that restricts similar freedom were that to be desirable to the product maker. It will be interesting to see how Krell adapted the Cirrus EQ in their new Foundation processor's ARES system. |
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Post by cwt on May 26, 2013 0:40:42 GMT -5
Yes the ssp 800 has well thought out ranges concentrating on the lower frequencies . Just to clarify, the SS-800 does not concentrate on the low frequencies. All that's different is the SSP allows each of its 5 bands to freely span the entire 1 Hz - 20 kHz range, with no gaps, and it also has 5 bands for the subwoofer. I see nothing in the Cirrus literature that restricts similar freedom were that to be desirable to the product maker. It will be interesting to see how Krell adapted the Cirrus EQ in their new Evolution processor's ARES system. Understood ; just an off the cuff reference to the 1hz granularity vs the 100hz from 2k up . The Krell does some interesting things with the phase iirc . Maybe a simplified version of the ARES in the reference 707 Justify some of the price disparity possibly |
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Post by flamethrower1 on May 31, 2013 16:28:23 GMT -5
So what happened to this thread?
I was hoping to here something that might persuade me to use my discount card
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Post by chicagorspec on May 31, 2013 17:54:21 GMT -5
So what happened to this thread? I was hoping to here something that might persuade me to use my discount card ^ +1; wondering same. |
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Post by repeetavx on May 31, 2013 23:20:23 GMT -5
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Post by chicagorspec on May 31, 2013 23:29:46 GMT -5
^ Is the ability to just pick it up at Emofest the reason to wait? I am under the impression that though prices are cheaper at Emofest, discount cards would always be applied against the "normal" price. Do I not have this correct? Thanks.
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Post by repeetavx on May 31, 2013 23:42:45 GMT -5
I am under the impression that though prices are cheaper at Emofest, discount cards would always be applied against the "normal" price. Do I not have this correct? Thanks. You're right. As I understand it, the use of the discount card requires it to be used against the full retail price. It also, I believe, requires you to pay for shipping. So as far as price, the question becomes which costs more. Shipping or sales tax. I also want to give the XMC-1 a fair chance. If they can get it out, and if people can review it, I want the better sounding preamp. My UMC-1's qwerks are starting to get under my skin. With Andrew's comparison review, I can't see how I could go wrong with the PT-7030. |
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Post by yeeeha17 on Jun 1, 2013 0:26:03 GMT -5
If you plan on buying it than do it now since they are giving the $300 direct dollars with a $1k purchase. Than use that $300 later to get the XMC with the 25% discount.
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Post by cwt on Jun 1, 2013 3:59:49 GMT -5
If you plan on buying it than do it now since they are giving the $300 direct dollars with a $1k purchase. Than use that $300 later to get the XMC with the 25% discount. The 7030 is more than $1500 so qualifies for $500 dollars ;thats the good news . But there's fine print that applies to your second [nice ]thought |
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Post by sealkojac on Jun 1, 2013 7:46:24 GMT -5
I just cashed in my 40% card for a PT-7030. The processor was incredibly easy to setup, I performed the swap and had her up in running in about 30 minutes. Initially impressions are very good, handles a 3D signal to my projector without any trouble. Something I've had problems with my previous processors and the receiver before it so I'm happy that the issue is resolved. The signal gain is noticeable to as I can turn my system up much louder than before. I'd say its a win win with the bonus of $300 direct dollars and I dont have to baby sit the XMC forums any more waiting and wondering...
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Post by repeetavx on Jun 1, 2013 10:10:06 GMT -5
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Post by visiter555 on Jun 1, 2013 13:05:19 GMT -5
I had sent the question (use 40% off card) about getting the Direct Dollars and got a clear YES (via e-mail) you get the Direct Bucks, but the amount of direct bucks depends on the actual price paid. So if you use the 40% off you pay $1080 and qualify for (only!!!) the $300 Direct Dollars. |
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music oriented was the blurb.
