New ERC-3!!

[deltadube]

any interest in a 5 disc erc 3 cd player... I would really love that Emotiva...

Merry Christmas

[trinhsman]

My ERC-3 loads quicker than that. About 10 seconds total to load. Wondering if the 30 seconds is within a normal range? You may want to contact the technical support people and ask.

[dmraupp]

I think load time is ok.What I really love is that you can actually go backwards on the disc and start at the last track without skipping from 1 to whatever.You can also just press the track number you want on the remote without having to press select or enter just the number and it jumps right to that track and starts playing.I could not do this on my Oppo BDP-95.

[Mickboy]

Dec 19, 2013 14:26:08 GMT -5 katjith said:

I hooked up my ERC-3 this morning. First impression is very positive. Bass is definitely tight and there is better clarity in fine details. Highs are impressive compared to all 3 DACs I own.( Parasound DAC-1100, MSB full Nelson DAC, Emotiva XDA-1) The only complaint I have is the disc loading time. It takes at least 30 seconds to read the discs. It feels like forever. I own Pioneer Elite, Marantz,and Cambridge audio CD players. They all play almost immediately. Display of ERC-3 is very attractive with the high quality feel of the chassis. Overall, it sure is a solid piece of gear for the price. I think,I am going to keep it............

Not right on that loading time. Multiple cd's on my unit from tray out/pressing play/to play is 9 seconds multiple times.
Unplug the unit and let it sit for a minute, then plug it back in and let it do it's thing. Then try again. If it's taking 30 seconds or longer
then go get a cold beer and ponder the situation for the night. Then send it back.
Mickboy

[pebo]

Hi katjith
My Rotel 1520 has a long load time also
I don't think it is an issue

[Mickboy]

I can't believe this Player has just got out and almost NOBODY is posting almost NOTHING about it?
Me, I'm listening to Jimmy Smith Back at the Chicken Shack/50+ hours burn in done/Hate the Remote but the sound is superlative.
So far it's made my Cat, Mickboy, and me very happy..........No Filters, no Upscaling, just sound that even on original issue
regular cd's, sounds like a new mastering.......quite an incredible player.
Quite unbelievable.
Mickboy

[Gary Cook]

I checked the load time, a bit less than 10 seconds. The very first time I used my ERC-3 I'm sure it took longer, maybe 30 seconds, as other have reported. But not now, I've checked the load time, around 9 seconds is normal with many CD's, that's including the stereo layer of Hybrid SACD's. So I suspect it's only one time, the first time.

I have now installed the ERC-3 in the rack properly, with shelf spacing the same as my USP-1. I used up the last of my good RCA cables, so I'l have to make up some more, or maybe just buy some Emotiva cables with my next purchase.

Sound wise it's just so impressive, I'm, playing Fleetwood Mac at the moment and it sounds brilliant. Someone mentioned female voices, well Stevie Nicks vocals just sound so good on Sara, very real, in the room, out front, just the right amount of echo, delay and taper, lifelike for those that have been lucky enough to have heard it performed live.


Cheers
Gary

[vinylnut]

Hooked up the new ERC-3 today, replacing the ERC-1. Noticed more detail right away, more open,  improved soundstage.
My CD loads also in 10 sec. Very solid transport, love the feel of the tray loader. I have not used the remote that came with it, prefer the remote that came with the USP-1, controls everything.
Very pleased with this unit and only listened for a couple hours so far. Excellent build quality like my other Emotiva products, the sale and shipping was top notch.  It's a keeper. Rockin' On

[sahmen]

Two questions:

Question 1: Is any one using the ERC-3 with a DAC like the DC-1, or does it render the DC-1 completely redundant? If anyone is, how does the sound compare with or without the DC-1 (or with or without the super DAC you're using)?

Question 2: What in the name of the bejesus is the meaning of the expression "decay" as used in audiophile speak? And why does this expression "decay" seem to have a very positive meaning in audiophile speak, as opposed to its meaning practically everywhere else, where "decay" automatically invokes almost always, decomposition, or more simply put, things that smell bad?


And, by the way, Happy Holidays to all Emophiles   

[brubacca]

To me "decay" in audiophile speak is the natural decay of a musical note when played on a real instrument.

[sahmen]

^^Okay, and how does a "naturally decayed" musical note sound, as opposed to one that is not decayed"?  BTW, I am just trying to learn, and not be obnoxious...

[brubacca]

I guess my question to you is have you ever played a know someone who plays a real instrument? A trumpet? Or snare drum? When you play a note on a trumpet there is the note and the decay. Less resolving systems gloss over the decay to move on to the next sound. I don't know how else to describe it. Generally it is most heard when nothing follows the note in question. It is almost the quiet echo of the note for a fraction of a second after the note.

[Deleted]

Attack is how hard you hit the note. A fast attack will produce a quick lound note while a slow attck will create a note that slowly increases in volume (guitar and piano). Decay is how slowly the note loses its volume after it has been played.

Attack and decay in music means start and stop which means slowly starting and then slowly stopping.

Decay means that the music will fade away slowly.

Decay is the physical process by which a sound gradually dissappears from the audible spectrum until it no longer exists. Simply put, decay is the time that it takes for a note to die away once the musician has stopped producing the sound. The sound waves dissapate in much the same manner as waves produced by tossing a stone in a pond. Decay is a basic component of how a sound is defined.

[Gary Cook]

Notes are somewhat like tossing stones in a pond, how long are the ripples visible from the first stone before the second stone hits the water. Quality sound system's resolution allows the first stone (note) to decay naturally as it would in real life.


Cheers
Gary

[trinhsman]

Decay.......Go get The Best of Third Force.......put it in the ERC-3........ Go to the track titled Chant...........turn up the volume..........then listen to that drum beat.......DECAY! Now put that same cd and song in any other player.......NO DECAY. For those of you that have heard that track on that cd, you will know what I mean. I am about 25 hours into the burn in of my unit. So far, ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!

[novisnick]

Anyone PLEASE, that has a DC-1 and the ERC-3 please post something about the two! Comparison please.is it the same playing through both or is one better then the other,,,,,,,in your opinion?

Inpatient!

St. Nick

[sahmen]

Great!

So decay : The fading sound waves or energy of a musical note that has just been struck on a given instrument. "Attack," quoting Chuckienut, "is how hard you hit the note," which I shall translate, with his permission, as how the ear perceives, measures, or "hears" the degree of force applied in the striking of a note... We are on the same page now, I think...

And Brubacca: yes, I played both the piano and the bass guitar as an amateur for several years, during my pre-grad school years, but that was in another country, so we may have used different expressions to represent the sonic fade ("decay"), and the force with which a guitar string is plucked, or a piano key hit, for a particular note...

What complicates the issue a bit is that when we refer to such terms in the discussion of cd players, DACS, and other related equipment, we are no longer referring, strictly speaking, to the original notes that were struck on the corresponding musical instruments. We are rather referring to the degree of accuracy (or neutrality, or coloration) with which the particular component under discussion (CD player, DAC, etc. etc) has translated those original musical notes... An we all know how loaded and varied that "translation" process can be...

To those who have responded: thanks for the enlightening discussion.

[sahmen]

Dec 21, 2013 21:16:04 GMT -5 trinhsman said:

Decay.......Go get The Best of Third Force.......put it in the ERC-3........ Go to the track titled Chant...........turn up the volume..........then listen to that drum beat.......DECAY! Now put that same cd and song in any other player.......NO DECAY. For those of you that have heard that track on that cd, you will know what I mean. I am about 25 hours into the burn in of my unit. So far, ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!

Huh?  This interpretation of decay is an entirely other can of worms, I'm afraid...

[Mickboy]

Dec 21, 2013 19:35:58 GMT -5 sahmen said:

Two questions:

Question 1: Is any one using the ERC-3 with a DAC like the DC-1, or does it render the DC-1 completely redundant? If anyone is, how does the sound compare with or without the DC-1 (or with or without the super DAC you're using)?

Question 2: What in the name of the bejesus is the meaning of the expression "decay" as used in audiophile speak? And why does this expression "decay" seem to have a very positive meaning in audiophile speak, as opposed to its meaning practically everywhere else, where "decay" automatically invokes almost always, decomposition, or more simply put, things that smell bad?


And, by the way, Happy Holidays to all Emophiles   

I'm an ex drummer so I can answer this question.
'Decay' is when your sitting at the drumset, you hit a cymbal, and after the initial 'hit' you hear the 'aftermath' sound of that initial cymbal 'hit'. Basically you hear it get less loud as it 'decay's'. That's it in a nutshell.
mickboy

[Deleted]

Decay - de one that comes after de J.
And of course, the DJ may well play a track that has decay and may well be measured in db...