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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 22, 2013 10:26:55 GMT -5
Well, I'd definitely put a sub under them for living room use... That said, I'll hook up mine this afternoon & write my own (poor) review!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 10:50:53 GMT -5
Well, I'd definitely put a sub under them for living room use... That said, I'll hook up mine this afternoon & write my own (poor) review! Boom Cool! Im interested in your thoughts! |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 22, 2013 13:58:44 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to "pull a Garbulky" on this one. I want more time to listen to these before I write any comments...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 15:35:15 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to "pull a Garbulky" on this one. I want more time to listen to these before I write any comments... Fair. |
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Post by PGT on Nov 4, 2013 15:23:58 GMT -5
I've got mine setup...one thing is apparent up close...they need more tilt. I had one of the center channel spacers in my cart checking out and got interrupted with someone stopping by my office. By the time I went back to click "Complete", they were out of stock. :-( I planned to cut in half...perfect dimensions for bases for the Airmotiv's. Wonder if Emo would consider making them....just CNC routed MDF it seems. Anyways...here's my pair:  |
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Nov 4, 2013 15:26:41 GMT -5
I've got mine setup...one thing is apparent up close...they need more tilt. I had one of the center channel spacers in my cart checking out and got interrupted with someone stopping by my office. By the time I went back to click "Complete", they were out of stock. :-( I planned to cut in half...perfect dimensions for bases for the Airmotiv's. Wonder if Emo would consider making them....just CNC routed MDF it seems. Anyways...here's my pair: This is what I like to see. Looks a bit like my setup here at the office actually  |
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Post by PGT on Nov 4, 2013 15:49:53 GMT -5
I'd really like to upgrade the DAC vs. using the iPad's (which is terrible). Wonder if the DAC in an AppleTV is any better. As much as I'd like a DC1, that kind of kills the cost/benefit for selling my Big Jambox and putting the Airmotiv's in its place. Perhaps a NuForce iDo or something might be in order. Also read good things about a $30 Behringer unit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 16:03:38 GMT -5
I'd really like to upgrade the DAC vs. using the iPad's (which is terrible). Wonder if the DAC in an AppleTV is any better. As much as I'd like a DC1, that kind of kills the cost/benefit for selling my Big Jambox and putting the Airmotiv's in its place. Perhaps a NuForce iDo or something might be in order. Also read good things about a $30 Behringer unit. Get the behringer. Its in the review which started this thread. The apple tv dac is terrible |
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Post by PGT on Nov 4, 2013 16:13:16 GMT -5
I know...that's where I learned about it. So, Apple camera connection kit to Behringer DAC to Airmotiv's? I'm using an iPad as source.
Just demo'ed with Dire Straight's "Money For Nothing" (thanks for that goes to the Dirac demo at EmoFest).....bass is impressive for such a small driver.
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Post by copperpipe on Nov 4, 2013 17:36:31 GMT -5
I had the Behringer for a while (before it met its untimely demise), I thought it was terrible Ok, not terrible, better than onboard, but I would splurge a little more if I were you, where I live you can get a semi/pro audio 2 channel sound card for $150 (focusrite scarlet 2i2), will hugely outperform that little behringer, and it comes with a volume control. Probably not in the same league as the DC-1, but I'm willing to bet it's much better than the Behringer (I found the behringer to quickly add distortion as the volume went up, and it was very bright in the highs (which coupled with my paradigm monitor 7's was too much); possibly this was a computer issue, I know USB audio can be a little fiddly on cheaper devices). |
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Post by Dark Ranger on Nov 4, 2013 19:13:21 GMT -5
I've got mine setup...one thing is apparent up close...they need more tilt. What about the ASM Base? |
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Post by PGT on Nov 4, 2013 19:24:25 GMT -5
I've got mine setup...one thing is apparent up close...they need more tilt. What about the ASM Base? whoa. <mind blown> Emo should link this on their page too. Thanks...ordering now. |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 4, 2013 19:38:24 GMT -5
I had the Behringer for a while (before it met its untimely demise), I thought it was terrible Ok, not terrible, better than onboard, but I would splurge a little more if I were you, where I live you can get a semi/pro audio 2 channel sound card for $150 (focusrite scarlet 2i2), will hugely outperform that little behringer, and it comes with a volume control. Probably not in the same league as the DC-1, but I'm willing to bet it's much better than the Behringer (I found the behringer to quickly add distortion as the volume went up, and it was very bright in the highs (which coupled with my paradigm monitor 7's was too much); possibly this was a computer issue, I know USB audio can be a little fiddly on cheaper devices). Well it was $30  There's definitely better stuff out there no doubt. But it's a great one I think to get reasonable quality vs whatever onboard soundcard some people connect to their expensive speakers especially if they don't think a DAC is necessary etc. But are you by any chance listening through the headphone output? Because I find it to have a tipped up treble. The RCA' outputs are better in this regard but you have to control the volume using your keyboard. |
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Post by copperpipe on Nov 4, 2013 20:01:04 GMT -5
Well it was $30 There's definitely better stuff out there no doubt. But it's a great one I think to get reasonable quality vs whatever onboard soundcard some people connect to their expensive speakers especially if they don't think a DAC is necessary etc. But are you by any chance listening through the headphone output? Because I find it to have a tipped up treble. The RCA' outputs are better in this regard but you have to control the volume using your keyboard. You're right of course, the $30 is a fair bit cheaper than the $150 of the focusrite. I was using the RCA outputs which were then fed into my little mini-x, but it wasn't just the treble, it was the also the distortion which began to creep in at medium volume levels. I'm willing to believe it could just have been a clash with my computer though, some interference of some sort. The focusrite I'm using now is much much better on the same computer, can't wait to feed it into a pair of stealth 8's once I get the power-off/on issue with those all sorted out |
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Post by PGT on Nov 8, 2013 8:37:56 GMT -5
someone pointed out to me that Emotiva sells bases on the Pro site. Problem solved....SO MUCH better now. Also....27" screen.  |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 8, 2013 9:15:06 GMT -5
Well it was $30 There's definitely better stuff out there no doubt. But it's a great one I think to get reasonable quality vs whatever onboard soundcard some people connect to their expensive speakers especially if they don't think a DAC is necessary etc. But are you by any chance listening through the headphone output? Because I find it to have a tipped up treble. The RCA' outputs are better in this regard but you have to control the volume using your keyboard. You're right of course, the $30 is a fair bit cheaper than the $150 of the focusrite. I was using the RCA outputs which were then fed into my little mini-x, but it wasn't just the treble, it was the also the distortion which began to creep in at medium volume levels. I'm willing to believe it could just have been a clash with my computer though, some interference of some sort. The focusrite I'm using now is much much better on the same computer, can't wait to feed it into a pair of stealth 8's once I get the power-off/on issue with those all sorted out Okay distortion at medium volume levels. By that you mean you connected the RCA inputs at full volume and slowly turned up the airmotivs and you could hear audible distortion at medium volumes? I assume these volumes were something that on the comparison dac just did not happen right? That is interesting. I personally didn't experience audible distortion. It could mean a few things. Some of which are.... 1. my ears/equipment/room is not resolving enough. 2. You may have some power problems. But honestly my listening was done via a laptop which I doubt had very good power to begin with in the first place. So I don't know if it really was power problems.... 3. It may be your playback software and how well it interacts with the card. I used mediamonkey and I got a bit of stuttering and some minor distortion to the XDA-1 via WASAPI. I have NO CLUE why. It absolutely shouldn't be this way as it's bit perfect and the buffer was high enough and I tried both push and event. On foobar, I did not encounter this problem. |
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Post by GreenKiwi on Nov 8, 2013 10:56:30 GMT -5
copperpipe that focusrite has always interested me. I'd be tempted to use its microphone inputs for my TT and no have a phono preamp.
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Post by audiobill on Nov 8, 2013 11:49:07 GMT -5
I had the Behringer for a while (before it met its untimely demise), I thought it was terrible Ok, not terrible, better than onboard, but I would splurge a little more if I were you, where I live you can get a semi/pro audio 2 channel sound card for $150 (focusrite scarlet 2i2), will hugely outperform that little behringer, and it comes with a volume control. Probably not in the same league as the DC-1, but I'm willing to bet it's much better than the Behringer (I found the behringer to quickly add distortion as the volume went up, and it was very bright in the highs (which coupled with my paradigm monitor 7's was too much); possibly this was a computer issue, I know USB audio can be a little fiddly on cheaper devices). FYI - I, and many others, use the Focusrite 2i2 as an analog to digital converter for making digital recordings of archtop jazz guitars, mics etc. If they pass that test compared to original acoustic instruments, should be just as good coming back the other way - that is the ultimate test, no? Considered a great value, and very nicely made by that group. Internal preamps are "award winning" I haven't compared it with my DC-1, which I'm delighted with, but just may..... Bill |
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Post by copperpipe on Nov 8, 2013 12:37:36 GMT -5
You're right of course, the $30 is a fair bit cheaper than the $150 of the focusrite. I was using the RCA outputs which were then fed into my little mini-x, but it wasn't just the treble, it was the also the distortion which began to creep in at medium volume levels. I'm willing to believe it could just have been a clash with my computer though, some interference of some sort. The focusrite I'm using now is much much better on the same computer, can't wait to feed it into a pair of stealth 8's once I get the power-off/on issue with those all sorted out Okay distortion at medium volume levels. By that you mean you connected the RCA inputs at full volume and slowly turned up the airmotivs and you could hear audible distortion at medium volumes? I assume these volumes were something that on the comparison dac just did not happen right? That is interesting. I personally didn't experience audible distortion. It could mean a few things. Some of which are.... 1. my ears/equipment/room is not resolving enough. 2. You may have some power problems. But honestly my listening was done via a laptop which I doubt had very good power to begin with in the first place. So I don't know if it really was power problems.... 3. It may be your playback software and how well it interacts with the card. I used mediamonkey and I got a bit of stuttering and some minor distortion to the XDA-1 via WASAPI. I have NO CLUE why. It absolutely shouldn't be this way as it's bit perfect and the buffer was high enough and I tried both push and event. On foobar, I did not encounter this problem. (Not sure where you picked up me having airmotivs, but unfortunately I'm not that lucky  (yet!); still trying to make up my mind whether I want to try out the stealths.) I doubt it would be #1; my room is not so good either. Other equipment (at that time) was a motu for comparison and both DACs were being tested with my mini-x as the amp, and then a pair of paradigm monitor 7's. Nothing terribly fancy or revealing, the mini-x is nice though. It may have been a computer issue, something noisy in my peripherals or whatever, but the motu did not have the same trouble on the same computer (exact same usb port). For the comparison I dropped into windows (the motu doesn't work in linux), but for day to day usage I was using linux and I noticed it in both OS's regardless of the playback software (vlc mostly, think I tested win media player too). I just didn't ever get attached to the sound, whereas the motu I liked (still have it but use it in a different project), and the focusrite I just picked up I like even more though it's far cheaper than the motu. Probably because there is less on the focusrite, only 2 channels etc etc; the motu has 10 analog, couple digital, and a bunch of other stuff that would add to the overall cost but probably not increase the quality of the DAC when compared to the $150 focusrite. |
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Post by badsarge on Nov 8, 2013 17:54:57 GMT -5
The air motive 4's and focal xs book can both be had for $299. Anyone have any insight as far as comparison for desktop computer listening?
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There's definitely better stuff out there no doubt. But it's a great one I think to get reasonable quality vs whatever onboard soundcard some people connect to their expensive speakers especially if they don't think a DAC is necessary etc. 
(yet!); still trying to make up my mind whether I want to try out the stealths.)