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Post by milsap195 on Nov 5, 2013 9:57:09 GMT -5
In the near future they will tax all internet purchases!!! Its coming, the government is missing out on to much money to let it go on the way it is.
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Post by jmasterj on Nov 5, 2013 10:11:19 GMT -5
Dan, Some of us here on the forum could figure out the reason for the price increase for the XPR reference series amps. We could easily determine that the different shipping method, and carrier was most likely the cause. There were some others, however, who seemed confused by the increase, and/or maybe by the timing of it. Undoubtedly, some will be a little disappointed about the price increase. I believe the XPR reference series amps still represent the best bargain in high end audio equipment even with the price increased. Making sure that the amps arrive at their destination intact should be a concern of everyone who orders these large, expensive, and very heavy amplifiers. Taking the steps to assure the best delivery method of these items was necessary. Thanks for taking the time to give an explanation. But more important than that, please try to hold the pricing at the current levels through the remainder of the holiday sales period. I still have another amp, and preamp to buy. j
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Post by tchaik on Nov 5, 2013 10:35:18 GMT -5
I was looking to try to get the XPR-5 by xmas but the price change makes that unlikely for now. i totally understand their reasons and respect that. the equipment is still the most exceptional bargain in high end audio as of today and i appreciate that they use a simple and consistent pricing formula to determine the value of any of their products....... something that tends to be overlooked in much of the high end industry. i will probably wait till the next emofest to get the amp since my eye is on the XMC-1 during the spring. still gonna get the stealth 8's by xmas though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 12:41:38 GMT -5
Let's hope that the freight company has something smaller than semis to do the delivering. Here in the mountains the closest a semi can come to my house without having to back out is a mile, and that's not counting the driveway. Since I'd have to rig a hoist to get an XPR amp into and out of my pickup, I should probably not lust after them. A shipment of basement insulating panels normally sent by freight had to be broken up into 14 of the largest boxes FedEx will ship, which I wouldn't want happening to an amp, although splitting it into two XPA-1Ls might work!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 15:02:23 GMT -5
All good reasons but why is such information not given before acting? In my opinion both should be done in unison. You should also add that because of the new way of shipping XPR-amps, you don´t ship them overseas anymore. Some guys over here in Germany sadly noticed this when they tried to order - in this case, the explanation given was the soon to open warehouse in the netherlands. Since this warehouse doesn´t help anything with buyers in e.g. Australia - what happens here? No more XPR for them? they're not shipping them north to Canada anymore either.....
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Post by Jim on Nov 5, 2013 15:08:38 GMT -5
All good reasons but why is such information not given before acting? In my opinion both should be done in unison. You should also add that because of the new way of shipping XPR-amps, you don´t ship them overseas anymore. Some guys over here in Germany sadly noticed this when they tried to order - in this case, the explanation given was the soon to open warehouse in the netherlands. Since this warehouse doesn´t help anything with buyers in e.g. Australia - what happens here? No more XPR for them? they're not shipping them north to Canada anymore either..... So Canadians can't buy XPR amps? Something seems amiss........ I kind of wonder if the XPRs packaging could be improved enough so that Fedex/UPS wouldn't do as much damage. That seems preferable, if that could save $100+ in freight cost. I know that packaging can be big bucks though.. Just seems odd that the extra 25 pounds (XPR-5 vs XPA-1, for example) is make-or-break for safe shipping via Fedex/UPS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 15:13:02 GMT -5
I requested a quote this morning to have an xpr shipped to me and was told... " Thank you for your interest in Emotiva. We're really sorry, but we can't ship the XPRs internationally right now. The size and weight makes it prohibitive. We can't have you paying more for shipping than for the amp! Our wonderful customers are the most important part of Emotiva, and we want you to be satisfied with every aspect of your order, including price."
Makes me kind of unhappy but lifes a bi&%h. emotiva has their reasons and it'll work out in the end....... I hope
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Post by Jim on Nov 5, 2013 15:17:33 GMT -5
I requested a quote this morning to have an xpr shipped to me and was told... " Thank you for your interest in Emotiva. We're really sorry, but we can't ship the XPRs internationally right now. The size and weight makes it prohibitive. We can't have you paying more for shipping than for the amp! Our wonderful customers are the most important part of Emotiva, and we want you to be satisfied with every aspect of your order, including price." Perhaps if Dan is still watching this thread, he could comment. It sounds like the biggest concern isn't the price increase........ If you can't even buy the amp??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 15:22:10 GMT -5
I was curious how this was going to affect shipping costs so figured I'd request a quote and that was what I got and by the way the packing on my xpr 2 was top notch and it reached me in flawless condition
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Post by neo20013 on Nov 5, 2013 16:11:14 GMT -5
We're really sorry, but we can't ship the XPRs internationally right now... Shouldn't this be solved when Emotiva opens the European warehouse?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 16:17:25 GMT -5
We're really sorry, but we can't ship the XPRs internationally right now... Shouldn't this be solved when Emotiva opens the European warehouse? but a European warehouse does me no good I'm in Canada
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Post by neo20013 on Nov 6, 2013 4:33:23 GMT -5
Shouldn't this be solved when Emotiva opens the European warehouse? but a European warehouse does me no good I'm in Canada Sorry, thought you were from Germany
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Post by dally on Nov 6, 2013 8:13:27 GMT -5
they're not shipping them north to Canada anymore either..... So Canadians can't buy XPR amps? Something seems amiss........ I kind of wonder if the XPRs packaging could be improved enough so that Fedex/UPS wouldn't do as much damage. That seems preferable, if that could save $100+ in freight cost. I know that packaging can be big bucks though.. Just seems odd that the extra 25 pounds (XPR-5 vs XPA-1, for example) is make-or-break for safe shipping via Fedex/UPS. I had the same thought about improving the packaging. Triple boxed? Soft padding to cushion the amp? Seems like this would still be cheaper than palletized freight. Even with the European warehouse opening up, Canada and Australia seem to be pretty big markets for Emotiva. It's a shame these customers won't be able to purchase the XPR's.
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Post by jevans64 on Nov 6, 2013 10:13:00 GMT -5
The silver lining is that mine is now worth 15% more on the open market. Problem is that I'm not going to sell it. I don't trust UPS/FedEx for ANYTHING over 30 to 40 pounds and prefer to just pick up amps, etc. in person. I itemize deductions on my state taxes, so I can claim the difference between my state's taxes and TN's taxes. This DOES require you to report ALL out-of-state purchases done via internet though. The taxes owed are usually a wash but I'll probably have less of a chance of getting audited. There really isn't a good way to handle a price increase, especially in this crappy economy where real-world wages are stagnant or falling in comparison to living costs. I would have excluded the XPR amps from the Holiday sale and then increased them during 1st quarter, like everyone else does.
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Post by bub on Nov 6, 2013 12:18:13 GMT -5
I was waiting till the end of the month when my cc cleared . When I opened up products page to order , I did a triple take.. I waited a couple of months till the sale and was under the impression the sale was till Xmas. When you're fast you last.. When you're slow you blow..So instead of trip Xpr monos I went out last night and bought a 2014 Electra Glide..looks good in the drive way.. Pictures to follow..
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Post by snafujg on Nov 8, 2013 18:03:00 GMT -5
Anyone know why they took down Dan's post? I came here to read his message on the price increase of the XPR line and all I see is responses.
My buddy was about to pull the trigger on the xpr5. He waited too long. Neither of us can see how a company chooses to have a price increase during a sale. Eat the loss for the time of the sale, then increase the price. That's the right thing to do. But, hey, it's not my company. I just buy their products!
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Post by vcautokid on Nov 8, 2013 18:19:09 GMT -5
Wow didn't know that Bigwoofer. Good info!
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 8, 2013 18:23:35 GMT -5
Things cost what they cost. I'm never happy about price increases, but I do understand them. The rates I charge clients aren't static either...
Should I think Emotiva products are no longer a good value, I'll quit buying them. Until then, I'm probably in line for a Control Freak, a tube preamp, some new subwoofers, etc. Thanks, Dan, for keeping us in the loop.
Boomzilla
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Post by PGT on Nov 8, 2013 18:48:45 GMT -5
Anyone know why they took down Dan's post? I don't think they meant to leave this thread open gor responses. I'd guess there's a thread in the announcement forum now
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Post by Porscheguy on Nov 8, 2013 18:53:15 GMT -5
I don't see any explanation.....
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