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Post by Andrew Robinson on Nov 14, 2013 10:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by pedrocols on Nov 14, 2013 10:43:52 GMT -5
Welcome to the Emotiva Lounge.......That is how we run things around here my friend....
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Post by DYohn on Nov 14, 2013 11:05:55 GMT -5
My criticism is meant to be constructive, I hope it can be taken as such. If not, hell it's just a forum. Ignore me if you like.
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Post by deltadube on Nov 14, 2013 11:21:39 GMT -5
A Stealth 8 in the shot would have been perfect. And since I have my professor hat on for a moment, I will repeat my earlier criticism of Andrew's video editing choices. Too much unrelieved talking. This is video: show me, don't tell me. -edit- Andrew, it's not small stuff. The content of the frame has perhaps more impact than the content of the audio track. The viewer receives messages from the composition: to me, the biggest message is "B&W speakers are our choice." Well that and that Lonnie is looking older these days. Like me. the biggest message i get from this video ... being a novice acoustical guy.. is that emotiva dont know how to set up speakers for proper sound the b&w are way to close together.. not sure how the sound can be majical like that... thats the hidden message i would redu the video with a few more speakers set up better .. most high end audio stores have 2 or 3 mains on a rack cheers..
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Post by villock on Nov 14, 2013 11:23:58 GMT -5
I also agree with David. When the camera is on Lonnie, the B&W is in the center of the frame and Lonnie is on the right. The camera is focused on Lonnie but the eyes are drawn to the speaker. I am focused on the speaker while I am watching. Also note to Lonnie, a nice turn table and tubes beat a CD player for critical listening And Andrew don't be so sensitive, you do great work
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Nov 14, 2013 11:26:34 GMT -5
And I think we've gotten off track...again.
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Post by villock on Nov 14, 2013 11:30:31 GMT -5
And I think we've gotten off track...again. How? Should have just posted this in the announcements section and not opened it up for responses and just let the video stand on it's own. I think everyone is just trying to be helpful
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Post by DYohn on Nov 14, 2013 11:38:08 GMT -5
Exactly. While I am not personally interested in a new CD player, I am interested in helping Emotiva present itself in the best light because I want the company to continue its success.
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Post by villock on Nov 14, 2013 11:43:38 GMT -5
Exactly. While I am not personally interested in a new CD player, I am interested in helping Emotiva present itself in the best light because I want the company to continue its success. Just thinking the same thing. I have been logging on everyday for the last 6 years and have been buying Emotiva products during that time also. I haven't turned on my ERC-1 in about 6 months and don't have any interest in the ERC-3 but I do have an interest in Emotiva's success as a whole and how they present themselves
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Post by copperpipe on Nov 14, 2013 13:00:12 GMT -5
Well for what it's worth (and at the risk of further thread derailment), I thought the video was well done. I disagree that the speakers in question cause any problems whatsoever; Emotiva currently has no products in this segment, why would it be a problem? It's not as if they're saying "we offer product X" but we like our competitors version better. I have also seen a few posts from Emotiva employees (and possibly Dan and / or Lonnie) post favourable messages about products from other companies, I like this. To me it shows honesty and love for the trade, they're not out to bash everybody else so when they come out with their own product you can trust their message much more than the average salesman from other companies. Trust in a company is a big thing for me, KeithL and Andrew our doing an amazing job of gaining my trust (again for what it's worth, I'm quite sure they don't even know I exist ) I also echo previous sentiment, please keep these types of videos coming!
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Post by jhanken on Nov 14, 2013 13:17:00 GMT -5
jhanken- What a great project and opportunity to get everything just the way you want it! Good luck to you! Gonna put up some pics when I git 'er all done. May need to leave room in the rack for an ERC-3! My plan has the two and five channel systems mostly independent of one another, the OPPO being the one common source for both. At some point I may put the two channel in a different spot, so it would be nice for them to be truly separate systems.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 13:29:16 GMT -5
Well, all this talk about putting mediocre British speakers in the video is not that big of a deal. since they didn't have an ERM-8.3 left in house.
What nobody knows except for me (I have some inside info from a secret source) is that the ERC-3 will not play heavy metal CD's. Sorry Metaldude!
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Post by Jim on Nov 14, 2013 13:32:03 GMT -5
Well, all this talk about putting mediocre British speakers in the video is not that big of a deal. since they didn't have an ERM-8.3 left in house. What nobody knows except for me (I have some inside info from a secret source) is that the ERC-3 will not play heavy metal CD's. Sorry Metaldude! I don't think it pays Dream Theater either...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 13:35:35 GMT -5
Yeah, but I didn't want to get Porscheguy all worked up!
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Post by klinemj on Nov 14, 2013 14:35:49 GMT -5
Andrew - do we get off track? Oh, let me tell you a joke...a duck walks into a bar...oh wait, wrong thread...caught myself!
Back on track...looking forward to hearing folks' opinions of the ERC-3. It stands to be a game changer as big as the DC-1 and XSP-1.
Mark
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Post by monkumonku on Nov 14, 2013 15:26:32 GMT -5
Well, all this talk about putting mediocre British speakers in the video is not that big of a deal. since they didn't have an ERM-8.3 left in house. What nobody knows except for me (I have some inside info from a secret source) is that the ERC-3 will not play heavy metal CD's. Sorry Metaldude! They could have used the Stealth 8's since those are better speakers than the B&W's anyway. But too late. I didn't find the B&W's distracting, though. I was paying attention to what Lonnie was saying.
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Post by Bonzo on Nov 14, 2013 15:28:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but I didn't want to get Porscheguy all worked up! LOL!!! Cross thread contamination!!!!
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Post by brubacca on Nov 14, 2013 15:36:54 GMT -5
Loved hearing Lonnie talk about the CD player. Thought the video was well done. Edited... I was hungry for Popcorn and not quite right
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Post by villock on Nov 14, 2013 15:43:11 GMT -5
Why is everyone so worked up about this video... Yes, they use B&W speakers.. yes, they were in the system that was shown in the interview. Guess what Many, Many, Many people (not me) consider B&W to be the pinnacle of speaker companies. Abbey Road Studios most famously, possibly Skywalker Sound (Although my memory on that one is vague). Loved hearing Lonnie talk about the CD player. Thought the video was well done. Just giving my impressions. I could care less if they used some of the speakers that Boom finds on the weekends at the yard sales. My point was that the B&W's were centered in the shots and with the yellow cone I found myself fixated on that instead of what the video was supposed to be about which is the ERC-3. That's all. Like I said, just throw it in the announcement section like Dan does and don't open it up to critique or praise.
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Post by Dark Ranger on Nov 14, 2013 16:05:03 GMT -5
I didn't find the B&W's distracting, though. I was paying attention to what Lonnie was saying. There were speakers in that video? My eyes glazed over when Lonnie started talking. It was like a prophecy spoken with the voice of an angel. His words penetrated to my very core, shaking the foundations of any illogical belief, and turned many preconceived notions into ash. When the video finished, I sat there motionless for 3 days, unable to regain consciousness from the otherworldly event I had witnessed. Today, I am a changed man. I no longer need speakers to hear music. It just happens inside of me.
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