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Apr 20, 2014 0:08:59 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2014 0:08:59 GMT -5
Been there,,,,been Banned by that! who cares,,,,,,,if they don't want to expand the members or there minds,,,,,,there loss! ceo of the mono block society was banned at avs for promoting over amplifying your speakers... what a joke of a site eh.. cheers Promoting ANY amplification besides an AVR IS NOT LOOK AT IN A GOOD WAY OVER THERE.Opps sorry about the caps. ill leave it at that,,,it's all fun and games here. |
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Apr 20, 2014 0:11:20 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2014 0:11:20 GMT -5
I wonder if that site violates your civil rights in America.. If I was a lawyer I would sue em down there.. cheers You could only sue if they denied a value of some sort, they did not!,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,, |
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Apr 20, 2014 0:23:47 GMT -5
Post by deltadube on Apr 20, 2014 0:23:47 GMT -5
I wonder if that site violates your civil rights in America.. If I was a lawyer I would sue em down there.. cheers You could only sue if they denied a value of some sort, they did not!,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,, they denied your freedom of speech and banned you for having a different opinion.. yeah I would sue they ass off.. |
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Apr 20, 2014 0:33:04 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2014 0:33:04 GMT -5
You could only sue if they denied a value of some sort, they did not!,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,, they denied your freedom of speech and banned you for having a different opinion.. yeah I would sue they ass off.. There's freedom of speech? |
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Apr 20, 2014 1:53:52 GMT -5
Post by deltadube on Apr 20, 2014 1:53:52 GMT -5
they denied your freedom of speech and banned you for having a different opinion.. yeah I would sue they ass off.. There's freedom of speech? not at avs.. |
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Apr 20, 2014 3:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by garbulky on Apr 20, 2014 3:17:25 GMT -5
You could only sue if they denied a value of some sort, they did not!,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,, they denied your freedom of speech and banned you for having a different opinion.. yeah I would sue they ass off.. Actually you can't. It's a misunderstanding of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences. It's limited in specific ways and it applies to public authority denying you freedom of speech. Not to private individuals. www.freewarehof.org/speech.html |
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Apr 20, 2014 13:40:33 GMT -5
Post by deltadube on Apr 20, 2014 13:40:33 GMT -5
they denied your freedom of speech and banned you for having a different opinion.. yeah I would sue they ass off.. Actually you can't. It's a misunderstanding of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences. It's limited in specific ways and it applies to public authority denying you freedom of speech. Not to private individuals. www.freewarehof.org/speech.htmlseems very un-American to me.. more like china.. |
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Post by knucklehead on Apr 20, 2014 14:15:33 GMT -5
AVS is no different than here. Say the wrong thing and you might get the thread locked - or you might get a time out. Whats wrong with that? Read Big Dan's plea for etiquette at the top of any major thread header. It is their bat and ball and the rules are their's to set. Either follow them or leave. People have been banned from AVS and the Emotiva Lounge for not following the rules. I'm a member of over 10 forums - first thing I do is read the rules. Don't be so surprised when you get banned for not following the rules.
As for needing an XPA-3 to drive 97db+ speakers? Its your money - spend it the way you want. If you hear a difference good on you - if you don't? Well theres some guys on AVS willing to tell you "I told you so."
Just be honest when you evaluate your amp choice. And remember - your opinion is subjective - not objective (fact). No two people experience stimulus the same way - you might hear things others don't - or not hear what they do.
Enjoy your new amp - or send it back. Your choice.
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Post by asharris7 on Apr 20, 2014 16:17:34 GMT -5
I beg to differ Ken, I defended my choice on using an amp for MY setup, not theirs. They proceeded to be snooting, attacking and rude, so I reciprocated in the same fashion. I got banned from the thread and the other guys didn't. I asked the Mod why, BOOM. Banned. I am all for rules (hell I know about rules, was in the military for 7 years) but when rules don't apply to the mods buddies, that's where I have a problem. I highly doubt this place is like that. Btw, I do hear a difference, I purchased a year old Outlaw 7500, would never send it back. Not everyone needs an amp, some do.  Thanks for your feedback! |
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Apr 20, 2014 17:53:21 GMT -5
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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2014 17:53:21 GMT -5
ceo of the mono block society was banned at avs for promoting over amplifying your speakers... what a joke of a site eh.. cheers Promoting ANY amplification besides an AVR IS NOT LOOK AT IN A GOOD WAY OVER THERE.Opps sorry about the caps. ill leave it at that,,,it's all fun and games here. I'm sure that there is more to the story. AVS probably took offense to a marketing spin more than amplification. Lots of stuff gets said at AVS good and bad. When it comes down to it - they care most about their revenue stream. Push your product or company too much - without sponsorship and AVS getting their cut? There will be consequences. Some people people forget that AVS is a business as much as a forum. Self expression can get twitchy if there is $$ on the line. If you're promoting purchasing a super beefy amp sold by AVS I'm sure you'll be welcomed! |
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Apr 20, 2014 18:03:45 GMT -5
Post by asharris7 on Apr 20, 2014 18:03:45 GMT -5
^ this. Especially the last sentence. They are Denon fanboys over that way.
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Post by MONOBLOCKS on Apr 20, 2014 18:22:01 GMT -5
^ this. Especially the last sentence. They are Denon fanboys over that way. Denon,,,,isn't that a yogurt? |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2014 18:32:27 GMT -5
Promoting ANY amplification besides an AVR IS NOT LOOK AT IN A GOOD WAY OVER THERE.Opps sorry about the caps. ill leave it at that,,,it's all fun and games here. I'm sure that there is more to the story. AVS probably took offense to a marketing spin more than amplification. Lots of stuff gets said at AVS good and bad. When it comes down to it - they care most about their revenue stream. Push your product or company too much - without sponsorship and AVS getting their cut? There will be consequences. Some people people forget that AVS is a business as much as a forum. Self expression can get twitchy if there is $$ on the line. If you're promoting purchasing a super beefy amp sold by AVS I'm sure you'll be welcomed! No mention of product just got criticized for my use of amps and how stupid I was for wasting MY money!!!!! when I took of fence to the lack of openmindedness there was an emendate life ban on that thread! No warning no read the rules again,,,,nothing . Not even a kiss my ars. Gee, I wonder why I have so little interest in talking with people like that. Im not into trashing anyone,,,,But please ,,,,,never mind,,,,,life is too short . i guess I did forget that it is all about $$$$$$$$$$,,, what a shame it's not community as well : (. : ( |
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Apr 20, 2014 18:58:00 GMT -5
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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2014 18:58:00 GMT -5
I'm sure that there is more to the story. AVS probably took offense to a marketing spin more than amplification. Lots of stuff gets said at AVS good and bad. When it comes down to it - they care most about their revenue stream. Push your product or company too much - without sponsorship and AVS getting their cut? There will be consequences. Some people people forget that AVS is a business as much as a forum. Self expression can get twitchy if there is $$ on the line. If you're promoting purchasing a super beefy amp sold by AVS I'm sure you'll be welcomed! No mention of product just got criticized for my use of amps and how stupid I was for wasting MY money!!!!! when I took of fence to the lack of openmindedness there was an emendate life ban on that thread! No warning no read the rules again,,,,nothing . Not even a kiss my ars. Gee, I wonder why I have so little interest in talking with people like that. Im not into trashing anyone,,,,But please ,,,,,never mind,,,,,life is too short . i guess I did forget that it is all about $$$$$$$$$$,,, what a shame it's not community as well : (. : ( Geez. That's crazy. Sorry to hear that! |
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Apr 20, 2014 19:00:34 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2014 19:00:34 GMT -5
No mention of product just got criticized for my use of amps and how stupid I was for wasting MY money!!!!! when I took of fence to the lack of openmindedness there was an emendate life ban on that thread! No warning no read the rules again,,,,nothing . Not even a kiss my ars. Gee, I wonder why I have so little interest in talking with people like that. Im not into trashing anyone,,,,But please ,,,,,never mind,,,,,life is too short . i guess I did forget that it is all about $$$$$$$$$$,,, what a shame it's not community as well : (. : ( Geez. That's crazy. Sorry to hear that! Me too, it was my venture over there. I may be a lot of things, but a trouble maker is not one of them. : ) |
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Apr 20, 2014 19:09:16 GMT -5
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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2014 19:09:16 GMT -5
Geez. That's crazy. Sorry to hear that! Me too, it was my venture over there. I may be a lot of things, but a trouble maker is not one of them. : ) I wanted to clarify - I didn't mean to say that there was more to the story with you getting banned. I was referring to the CEO. I didn't mean to imply anything about your experience! That's a shame that people jumped on you AND you got banned. |
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Apr 20, 2014 19:16:21 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2014 19:16:21 GMT -5
Jim, no worries mate! : )
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Post by Dan Laufman on Apr 20, 2014 19:47:10 GMT -5
Too bad about your experience on AVS. Don't know the whole story, but it seems a little hasty.
I want people to share their experiences and opinions here on the Lounge. I don't care what they talk about product wise. You like another product? Cool. We're not worried. We welcome comparison. If some guys think their AVR is all they need, well that's fine. Maybe it fits their needs and their budget. Some people do not like to feel like their decisions and opinions are being challenged. They get angry and defensive. Maybe that's the core of the issue there... All you have to do here is be civil and respectful... opinionated is fine. No taunting!!
Clearly they have not heard a system with real headroom. Headroom is what having big amps is all about; not playing as loud is you can stand it!
I'm thinking about doing a tech article on this very subject. I'd like to show how a typical "brand X" receiver behaves in a real world situation with typical speakers in an average listen room. You will be amazed to see how quickly you can run out of gas. I can drive an XPA-5 into mild clip quite easily with the right type of program material, so imagine what a receiver that makes less than half of its rated power with all channels drive will do.
Headroom is all about clarity, resolution and maintaining dynamics. You will be amazed at how much more you can hear when your system is not pushed to it's dynamic limits. power wise.
Stand by...
In the meantime, have fun kids!
Cheers,
Big Dan
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Apr 20, 2014 19:56:39 GMT -5
Post by asharris7 on Apr 20, 2014 19:56:39 GMT -5
Dan, I would LOVE to see that tech article! Bravo!
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Apr 20, 2014 20:08:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 20:08:14 GMT -5
AVS is no different than here. There is one important difference IMO. The Emotiva lounge is a dedicated site. That doesn't mean constructive criticism is not allowed. However, there are certain members who seem to have an agenda to point out negatives in their opinion about Emo products in many posts and threads. Once is OK but repeated negative posts can get them banned, justifiably so IMO. I think Polk speakers are generally very good speakers but not great. I might make a comment or so about them in a respectful manner at their forum, but if I push it I would expect to be banned. The same would go for The Outlaw Saloon. I own one of their subs and like it very much. However, if I went there and repeatedly complained about their pre-pro being delayed or cancelled I would expect to get the boot. One knows ahead of time what the Nikon forum is about so why go there and repeatedly promote Canon and trash Nikon. If one doesn't like a certain product or any of the products in a particular brand's dedicated forum, then why not make a polite constructive criticism and let it go or just flat stay away from that site if you can't stand their products. Worse yet is to come to the Lounge and insult and criticise the CEO and VP/CTO of Emotiva until the horse is certifiably dead! That is the height of poor manners. I don't always agree 100% (closer to 98%) with Big Dan and/or Lonnie but that goes for Bill Gates (51%) and Pete Carroll (99.9%) too. However, Emotiva has provided me with far more pride, joy and great value in my systems than any other audio/HT brand. No other brand is even close since my first purchase in 1969. The XPA-3 is a jewel of an amp! The alpha victor sam forum reminds me in so many ways of the Jerry Springer Show. |
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