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Post by ncred02 on Feb 1, 2014 16:13:52 GMT -5
But gen1 xpa2 to xpr1 should be noticeable, no.?
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Post by fattner on Feb 1, 2014 16:23:34 GMT -5
Ok then when my audio room is Finshed ( which you guys can ck it out on Audiokarma in the listen spaces ( fattner audio room ) I will get the xpa1 gen 2and give you guys a complete review and how the amp sounds compared to my tube mono blocks and with the rest of my gear !! Let me knw what you guys think of my audio room ! I can't wait til it done !! Takecare
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Post by audiobill on Feb 1, 2014 16:28:11 GMT -5
But gen1 xpa2 to xpr1 should be noticeable, no.? Yes. |
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Post by lewers on Feb 1, 2014 17:19:02 GMT -5
But gen1 xpa2 to xpr1 should be noticeable, no.? Yes, even more so. |
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Post by ncred02 on Feb 14, 2014 15:54:39 GMT -5
I'm still torn and asking on here made it even more confusing.
if the $$ was not an issue which would you pick?
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Post by routlaw on Feb 14, 2014 17:27:14 GMT -5
ok folks I need guidance. So I got a big B day coming. I know I dont look a day over 30. I was gonna throw a bash and my buddy mentioned buying something that will last instead. Why invest 2k maybe more on getting a bunch of friends drunk and fed. So I have always wanted mono blocks and now my dilemma is which ones. Does the XPR line really have that much more SQ or just wattage? The dedicated 20a circuits is no problem. I think even with the XPA1 i would run dedicated 20a to each. I even though of finding some Wilson puppies or Sophia's used to put the icing on the cake. Im a huge 2 channel listener and its something I have been itching for for years. What would you do? Thanks BTW I have about three months to decide and stash some funds. I would encourage you to get the XPA-1 Gen 2. Why, well because not one but two sales reps at Emotiva suggested the same for me even though I could have just as easily bought the XPR-1's. Its the pure Class A that does it, and you would have to be deaf as a box of rocks not to hear that attribute IMO. Over the last 20 ish years I have owned a lot of different amps, Krell, PS Audio, InnerSound including having their Kilowatt Mono blocs in my possession for several months which were by far the best I had heard until bringing in the XPA-1 Gen 2's. I can't tell you if they are as good as those KW mono's (but they also didn't cost $12,000.00 per pair either), since its been awhile since having them here but feel comfortable enough in saying they are as close as it gets to anything I have heard bar non. Mine are driving a pair of Genesis 6.1's a fairly difficult load to drive at that, but feel this is the best I have ever heard them sound. Hope this helps. |
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Post by moko on Feb 14, 2014 18:17:53 GMT -5
class A or class AB ? class A
class AB or class H ? class AB
simple.
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Post by routlaw on Feb 14, 2014 19:08:53 GMT -5
class A or class AB ? class A class AB or class H ? class AB simple. I don't understand your comment assuming its directed at my comment above. But just for clarity, one can flip a switch on the XPA-1 for a full 60 watts of class A power and which should take care of the vast amount of listening at sensible levels. I'm not an EE but it is my understanding Class H defines how the power rails are used and if I am not mistaken this is probably the same technology Krell used with their KSA series of Class A amps. As the music or load demanded, the rails delivered more pure class A power. If I am wrong about this no doubt some one will jump in my bowl of chili. Regardless, at the end of the day the XPA-1 Gen 2 in Class A mode sounds fabulous IMO. And that should be the most important factor rather than scrutinizing over endless technical details. Thats not meant to be a snarky comment, but we as audiophiles tend to do this far too much IMHO. HOpe this helps. |
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Post by moko on Feb 14, 2014 19:42:06 GMT -5
i was directing my comment at the OP. cos he seems to care about sq then it should be class A amps. and he choose monoblocks indicates he also want bragging rights cos i'm in the camp which not really convinced by the audible advantage of monoblocks. class A = bragging rights.
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Post by novisnick on Feb 14, 2014 23:31:19 GMT -5
I'm still torn and asking on here made it even more confusing. if the $$ was not an issue which would you pick? My $$$ was an issue but still went for the XPR-1 s. I am so happy with them! Large understatement! money well spent for me, patients is a vertue , I'll get my dream speakers later. But for now,,,I can power anything so I'm not limited by my amps. Nick |
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Post by ncred02 on Feb 15, 2014 6:00:20 GMT -5
you see what Nick does?!!!
every time!
Al kidding aside. Its been a tough choice and yes the funds are some what of a factor. But you only turn 30 once ( add 20)
Wonder if they will go on sale anytime soon? and then again I could always return them if im not pleased, which I doubt would happen with either.
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Post by ncred02 on Feb 15, 2014 6:05:59 GMT -5
"but we as audiophiles tend to do this far too much IMHO." yes we do
Moko, maybe its a lil bit of bragging right. Like owning a 1200 hp corvette. Way too much and more than you'll ever need.
regardless I am going with one of these choices
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Post by roadster on Feb 15, 2014 7:34:40 GMT -5
Just a vote here for XPA's. Few years back, I went from a highly regarded Rotel RMB-1095 to XPA-1's (series 1) for my Swan mains and they offered a significant leap in performance. Soundstage depth and precision, low end weight and definition. After using the Rotel for my surrounds a while longer, I sold it and bought an XPA-5 to replace it. Again, a significant leap in sound, particularly in the voice timber and clarity from my huge center speaker.
Gaining class A on the Gen II makes the proposition a no-brainer IMHO.
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Post by ncred02 on Feb 15, 2014 7:43:05 GMT -5
add to that they will fit under my TV where my XPA3 and 2 currently rest.
I hate decisions
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Post by fattner on Feb 15, 2014 11:10:12 GMT -5
I wish they had xpa gen 2 in there B stock for a price break !! Dang it !!!
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Post by ncred02 on Feb 15, 2014 14:27:47 GMT -5
I wish they had xpa gen 2 in there B stock for a price break !! Dang it !!! I HEAR THAT |
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Post by Porscheguy on Feb 15, 2014 15:16:50 GMT -5
class A or class AB ? class A class AB or class H ? class AB simple. I don't understand your comment assuming its directed at my comment above. But just for clarity, one can flip a switch on the XPA-1 for a full 60 watts of class A power and which should take care of the vast amount of listening at sensible levels. I'm not an EE but it is my understanding Class H defines how the power rails are used and if I am not mistaken this is probably the same technology Krell used with their KSA series of Class A amps. As the music or load demanded, the rails delivered more pure class A power. If I am wrong about this no doubt some one will jump in my bowl of chili. Regardless, at the end of the day the XPA-1 Gen 2 in Class A mode sounds fabulous IMO. And that should be the most important factor rather than scrutinizing over endless technical details. Thats not meant to be a snarky comment, but we as audiophiles tend to do this far too much IMHO. HOpe this helps. Correct, and I think pure class A amps are largely overhyped. Not saying they don't sound great, but its not exactly an epiphany when compared to a well made AB….. I love my amp's SQ, AND I can even use them for welding..  |
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