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Post by Topend on Feb 15, 2014 18:29:41 GMT -5
He AND Lonnie touted hdmi 2.0. Nice try!!! He IS the lead engineer. Man this place I tell you!! Have you ever made a mistake at work? It happens, so long as no one got hurt then why worry too much about it. The XMC-1 will still have improved HDMI over what many of us preordered. Dave.
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Post by Topend on Feb 15, 2014 18:33:47 GMT -5
He AND Lonnie touted hdmi 2.0. Nice try!!! He IS the lead engineer. It couldn't be more clear!! They couldn't hit a deadline thy swore at emofest and December webcast would happen, and tried to cover it up by offering "an even better" processor with hdmi 2.0. Which was a flat out lie hoping to calm the masses since they kisses ANOTHER announced date of release. Now that the spec sheet is out, and the truth revealed. Time to admit he wasn't 100% honest. And time to fess up If you don't read that or see that then I want what your drinking... Man this place I tell you!! Lmfao To address your edited post, to suggest that Dan lied is most likely not true and probably offensive to Dan. Dave.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 15, 2014 18:35:05 GMT -5
He AND Lonnie touted hdmi 2.0. Nice try!!! He IS the lead engineer. It couldn't be more clear!! They couldn't hit a deadline thy swore at emofest and December webcast would happen, and tried to cover it up by offering "an even better" processor with hdmi 2.0. Which was a flat out lie hoping to calm the masses since they kisses ANOTHER announced date of release. Now that the spec sheet is out, and the truth revealed. Time to admit he wasn't 100% honest. And time to fess up If you don't read that or see that then I want what your drinking... Man this place I tell you!! Lmfao No he's not. He's the president of Emotiva. He oversees dev teams and makes the decisions as to what course to follow but he's not crunching DSP code in a cubical dude or designing the HDMI section as is obvious from his confusion as to what that AD transceiver can do. I'm sure his duties are multifaceted and hectic for certain as the company has really grown and has big ambitions but his days are not spent designing the video section's layout or the DSP engine's code. Lony I believed worked on the front panel display and microcontroller but understand that other stuff is being done by EE design TEAMS from companies none of you have ever heard of and also the Swedes at the Uppsala University. There would be no less than THREE TEAMS of EE designers and software developers involved in making this thing. Jade/Emo has prob 5-10 people on it, the Swedes prob 5-10 people and the DSP implementers 5-10 and the PCB people 5-10. That's a group of 4 teams of five people at LEAST and probably around 30 people in actuality working on this XMC-1 audio video processor. The DSP team and Swedes could be considered one team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 18:44:25 GMT -5
Sorry my grammar was off. Lonnie is the lead engineer and he did say hdmi 2.0
Apologists mount up!!
And if 30 people worked on this one unit and it's STILL not out...then thank heavens they arent surgeons!!
Why why why must people continue to make excuses for emotiva and Dan and his major major downfalls as a president. Regardless if he is the engineer or the janitor if he speaks on emo behalf he should know 100000% when it will ship and know what the hell he is talking about when it comes to hdmi.
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Post by billmac on Feb 15, 2014 18:49:08 GMT -5
Now come on, the highlight of my day is to read a post by solidstate. From my perspective, on almost all technical issues, he adds some very good commentary. Take the terms you don't understand and play with Google. There is a wealth of information to learn from him and some additional research. Maybe so but I'm just not that much of a Tech person. I'd rather take the time to enjoy my system than have the need to know every single circuit and part number of all my components . Bill
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Post by solidstate on Feb 15, 2014 18:49:32 GMT -5
Sorry my grammar was off. Lonnie is the lead engineer and he did say hdmi 2.0 Apologists mount up!! And if 30 people worked on this one unit and it's STILL not out...then thank heavens they arent surgeons!! Why why why must people continue to make excuses for emotiva and Dan and his major major downfalls as a president. Regardless if he is the engineer or the janitor if he speaks on emo behalf he should know 100000% when it will ship and know what the hell he is talking about when it comes to hdmi. Your right Lony is lead designer or head of the three teams I assume exist.
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Post by drewface on Feb 15, 2014 19:08:40 GMT -5
I honestly don't know of any others that would be this open with the public. I know at least one ID speaker company that is just as open (if not more so) on their public forums, and I have seen them handle communicating production delays and feature changes in a much more consumer-friendly way than what we've seen from Emotiva in recent years. I know speaker development is a different beast than complicated electronics development, but the way in which information regarding the products is shared with the community does not have to be different. I feel like Emotiva was better at this back in '08 when I first discovered them and purchased an XPA-5. People in this industry have been watching as audio video processors have become very complex and a lot of small EE design houses simply lack the ability to design such a complex component due to lack of software development skills and other factors. They might be amazing audio engineers that can design great amps and even implement microcontroller control/monitoring and design great tube amps or a nice analog balanced preamp but that's a hell of a lot shy of programming a sophisticated DSP engine tied to HDMI AV transport with a video overlay and multi channel decoding with zone switching! There is many thousands of lines of code involved in doing something as simple as switching audio video HDMI sources as I described above! At this point pride and ego is involved and I assure you Dan and friends will deliver the best product they are capable of designing and implementing. Yep, I agree with this, and I am certainly excited to get my hands on one of these in my home to try out. I like the vision Dan and friends have for the XMC, and if it delivers on that vision when it is finally released I will be a happy camper. Sucks it has had such a bumpy road so far...
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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2014 19:09:39 GMT -5
Sorry my grammar was off. Lonnie is the lead engineer and he did say hdmi 2.0 Apologists mount up!! And if 30 people worked on this one unit and it's STILL not out...then thank heavens they arent surgeons!! Why why why must people continue to make excuses for emotiva and Dan and his major major downfalls as a president. Regardless if he is the engineer or the janitor if he speaks on emo behalf he should know 100000% when it will ship and know what the hell he is talking about when it comes to hdmi. Why don't you create a new thread in the Green Room as LCS suggested earlier? I don't get the taunting... Unless you're just really bored...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:11:44 GMT -5
Because my posts have merit and should be read here as well. People defend and I am exposing. Both types of post are here and both belong here. If mine don't belong every post defending emo should be moved to green room as well
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Feb 15, 2014 19:12:22 GMT -5
How my god, people get crazy with HDMI 2.0?!
But HDMI 2.0 don't is need at this time, and, if the president or the engineering have made a suggestion for the support of HDMI 2.0 from the brand new XMC-1, when they beginning sales everything is legal and in shape, what is the problem?
Guy's, they share with us the project the specifications they love what they do!!!
JESUS, WHAT WORLD YOU WANT LIVE???
- The XMC-1 will be one of the best's av/processor out there!
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Post by DYohn on Feb 15, 2014 19:12:46 GMT -5
So the President and Owner of the company comes in to explain what's going on and rather then be thanked a bunch of you idiots decide that's reason to attack him for something that changed? That's idiotic. Go the *bleep* away.
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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2014 19:13:53 GMT -5
Precisely, it is the nature of the claims. It is very disappointing to get this on a regular basis from Franklin TN. What are you getting on a regular basis? Open frank (no pun intended) sharing of information from a manufacturer? Do you know of any other brands that would be this open with us? So Dan confused the 1.4b spec with full blown 2.0 BIG DEAL You guys should be pleased that transceiver supports cross point matrixed switching. We all should be asking about this ability as it relates to the DSP. Hopefully they are setting up the two audio streams outta the AD7625 into their DSP engine and allowing us to watch one source whist listening to another IE video out on HDMI 1 with audio from HDMI 2. THIS IS A FANTASTIC FEATURE and what makes that AD7625 special. Dan thought that they could do full blown 2.0, said that it would come with 2.0 late in the game, and it can't. So what? It now has 2 HDMI outputs and a better chipset. I get that people are upset, but how many of you seriously have HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 sources or will in the next year? Guess what, by the time you do, there will be this thing called an "upgraded HDMI module for HDMI 2.0" when the dust has settled. Dan made a mistake. He's human. Next!
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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2014 19:15:53 GMT -5
Because my posts have merit and should be read here as well. People defend and I am exposing. Both types of post are here and both belong here. If mine don't belong every post defending emo should be moved to green room as well Please. Create a new thread in the green room. Please? Some might like to discuss the nuances of HDMI 2.0 or HDCP, but your sole intention seems to be to denigrate Dan and Emotiva. Here is how it works: You criticize and rile people up, and then people defend Emotiva. Get it? It doesn't end well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:24:06 GMT -5
His posts have every right to be here as much as anyone elses. Whether you agree or not, you have to take the good and the bad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:26:25 GMT -5
Only the dumb and blind defend this situation. It's not even about hdmi 2.0. It's about incompetence of Emotiva's leadership and they think us the consumer is dumb (I agree with them on this point after reading all of your responses)
I know lots more agree with me. I'm just the only one to say it here
I'm done. Unless I'm addressed directly
This reminds me of the wife who is in an abusive relationship. "But he does it cause he cares so much about me "
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:27:29 GMT -5
His posts have every right to be here as much as anyone elses. Whether you agree or not, you have to take the good and the bad. Thank you
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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2014 19:30:24 GMT -5
Only the dumb and blind defend this situation. It's not even about hdmi 2.0. It's about incompetence of Emotiva's leadership and they think us the consumer is dumb (I agree with them on this point after reading all of your responses) I know lots more agree with me. I'm just the only one to say it here I'm done. Unless I'm addressed directly This reminds me of the wife who is in an abusive relationship. "But he does it cause he cares so much about me " Would it kill you to express your feelings in a civil and respectful manner? I guess I'm crazy having this expectation of people. Don't like Emotiva? Don't buy their gear. They're not forcing anything upon you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:33:13 GMT -5
The schnozeberries taste like schnozeberries
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:33:31 GMT -5
At the end of the day, the XMC-1 will likely be a great unit and lots of people will enjoy it. The XMC-1 has been one heck of a ride since it was announced but if emotiva puts out a good unit, it will likely be forgotten pretty quickly. Hopefully the RMC-1 learns from the mistakes of the XMC-1 since at it's supposed price range, it better be damn near perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 19:34:13 GMT -5
The schnozeberries taste like schnozeberries lol, I love that movie meow!
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