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Post by hemster on Sept 11, 2014 11:18:14 GMT -5
^You may have also ingested something else along with the grass!  Mods are not "insiders" or Emotiva employees. We are not privy to any insider information and know what everyone else knows about Emotiva product plans/timelines. As the saying goes: " the grass always appears greener on the other side".    |
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 11, 2014 11:30:23 GMT -5
I can't figure out if the moderators here are shepards or preditors! Attachments:
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Post by Priapulus on Sept 11, 2014 16:23:23 GMT -5
> "Additional manufacturers who have committed to delivering future Dolby Atmos products include Datasat Digital Entertainment, Emotiva Audio Corp, Outlaw Audio, Storm Audio, and NHT (Now Hear This)."
If this means an upgrade Atmos card for the XMC-1; it is very good news. If the XMC-1 cannot be upgraded, and they are talking about RMC-1 as the future Atmos product, I'll be very disappointed. I hope I find out before I have an opportunity to buy the XMC; but I guess that's not likely. From what I've been reading Atmos is really going to obsolete everything else.
Sincerely
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Post by jmilton on Sept 12, 2014 13:07:09 GMT -5
It has been confirmed at CEDIA that the studio mixes of Atmos will be 7.1.4.
So for those of you that have 7.1 set ups, all you'll need are 4 more speakers from the ceiling and you're good!
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Post by klinemj on Sept 12, 2014 14:14:55 GMT -5
If the XMC-1 cannot be upgraded, and they are talking about RMC-1 as the future Atmos product, I'll be very disappointed. I'm still on the fence about the XMC-1. Part of it is this very topic...and if I do get into Atmos, I would want to add 4 ceiling speakers to my current 7.1 setup. Another, perhaps bigger, factor is that I have a 40% off card and I want to use it most wisely...with my UMC-1 working fine, I might as well wait on the next big thing beyond the XMC-1. Of course, there are days I get all excited and figure "to heck with it, I'll get an XMC1 as soon as I can" Mark |
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Post by novisnick on Sept 12, 2014 14:19:40 GMT -5
If the XMC-1 cannot be upgraded, and they are talking about RMC-1 as the future Atmos product, I'll be very disappointed. I'm still on the fence about the XMC-1. Part of it is this very topic...and if I do get into Atmos, I would want to add 4 ceiling speakers to my current 7.1 setup. Another, perhaps bigger, factor is that I have a 40% off card and I want to use it most wisely...with my UMC-1 working fine, I might as well wait on the next big thing beyond the XMC-1. Of course, there are days I get all excited and figure "to heck with it, I'll get an XMC1 as soon as I can" Mark Mark, I feel the exact same way as you! And yes I do have a 40% card as well. My 11.2 channel Yamaha 3020 is in fine condition and I too want to go the Atmos route. And I don't want to waist my money or card. What to do,,,,,,,,,,What to do,,,,,,,,,,,? Need some answers soon cause I'm on the clock! |
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Post by philmike21 on Sept 13, 2014 12:49:19 GMT -5
IMHO, the type of loudspeaker that would be ideal for Atmos would be in-wall speakers. If I were a manufacturer of in-wall or in-ceiling speakers I would be all over Atmos like white on rice -it's the only way you'd get me to embrace having more than 5 speakers in a room. To this day the best HT experience I've ever had was when I was never aware there were any speakers in the room/system at all. That and in-walls are dirt cheap compared to the alternatives. Just my 2 cents. Exactly, just roll with some cheap in ceiling or inwall speakers in the ceiling and a new receiver and your good. 2k and you can have the dolby atmos thing done. |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 16, 2014 19:45:51 GMT -5
AURO-3D?Not going to take the time to read all 32 pages of this thread. But just got the last page of my latest Sound & Vision to read about something I hadn't heard of before, Auro-3D. It's similar to Atmos but does things quite differently if the inventor is to be believed. It's currently being used in almost 500 screens worldwide, so it's certainly got possibilities. Although there first receiver, with 16 output channels, 13 of which are powered by 200 wpc amps, costs $16,700. Anyone here know anything about it? Has it already been mentioned and I've looked over it? Just asking to learn. Cheers --- Bonzo
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 17, 2014 13:09:22 GMT -5
www.auro-3d.com/Yes, it has been discussed, over here mainly in the RMC-1 threads. I was interested especially since Dolby kept saying they had no plans to bring Atmos to the home, until the Auro-3D capable processors turned out to cost 15K or more and Atmos for the home was announced. It's possible that more affordable brands, such as D&M add the capability to their AVR's. For Emotiva, it's unlikely judging from the skeptic reactions from staff folks. Those 500 screens are predominantly situated in India. So unless you are a Bollywood adapt, there will probably be a lot more content to choose with Atmos. Van Baelen suggests their 9.1 set-up for multi-format playback.
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Post by sahmen on Sept 19, 2014 17:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by bradford on Sept 22, 2014 9:53:36 GMT -5
Like several on this thread, I'm in the planning phase of a new HT in conjunction with a house addition. My current thinking is an Atmos 7.2.4 system. I know there are several schools of thought on the use of DI/BI -poles for the surrounds in a 7.X system, is that impacted (toward the exclusion of Di-poles) with the addition of 4 overhead speakers?
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Post by moovtune on Sept 22, 2014 11:50:21 GMT -5
After reading the last two issues of "Widescreen Review" in a two part interview with Van Baelen, creator of Auro 3D and an article by Gary Reber comparing Auro & Atmos, I'm not so sure the home version of Atmos is going to be all that great. It sounds like even the theater version of Auro has advantages over the theater version of Atmos. Check out the Widescreen articles and see what I mean.
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Post by ladesign on Sept 22, 2014 12:19:05 GMT -5
Heard a seminar at CEDIA where both Brett Crockett from Dolby and Wilfried Van Baelen were on the panel along with Dr. Floyd Toole and Andrew Jones. That. along with hearing many Atmos demos and the Auro demo proved, at least to my ears, that Atmos is soother in the transitions from the "ear-ish level" to the "height/elevation level". The articles are good, but the proof is in the listening.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 22, 2014 13:59:53 GMT -5
Like several on this thread, I'm in the planning phase of a new HT in conjunction with a house addition. My current thinking is an Atmos 7.2.4 system. I know there are several schools of thought on the use of DI/BI -poles for the surrounds in a 7.X system, is that impacted (toward the exclusion of Di-poles) with the addition of 4 overhead speakers? Good thinking! Use all monopole speakers with Atmos. The dipole speakers were useful as side surrounds in ye olde days because this made for a more enveloping sound-field without attracting to much attention to their actual position. Now with Atmos (or Auro) this is no longer useful as the enveloping comes from having multiple speakers. All the demo's I read about used monopole speakers. Best practice use all the same speakers for surrounds and elevated speakers. Best use coaxials all around since they have a wide conical dispersion which facilitates to have all the listeners inside the sound-field. I will make 8 of the Volt V-10 from DIY Soundgroup: www.diysoundgroup.com/coaxial-speaker-kits/v10-volt-kit.htmlAlso good ones are the Tannoy Di (5", 6" or 8") www.tannoypro.com/#!Page=Series&Id=47 |
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Post by bradford on Sept 23, 2014 12:17:54 GMT -5
Thank you, I thought that might be the case. I plan on using RBH in walls with all matching drivers 3 SI6100/R up front either the SI 663/R or SI760/R for the surrounds, and they are releasing a Signature co-ax ceiling speaker which I'll use with custom back boxes for the ceiling and rear's. rbhsound.com/inwall_ref.php, Also 2 JL f113 subs (I have one now) I used these in a prior house up north, great sound for the money, all the speakers are hidden so its nice not spending money on the cabinets. |
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Post by maverick74656 on Nov 12, 2014 20:54:31 GMT -5
I can't help but think the UAC-8.2 would work well as an in-ceiling Atmos speaker. Especially since they are on sale now What does everyone think? emotiva.com/products/speakers/uac-82 |
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Post by cwmcobra on Nov 12, 2014 21:24:30 GMT -5
I can't help but think the UAC-8.2 would work well as an in-ceiling Atmos speaker. Especially since they are on sale now What does everyone think? emotiva.com/products/speakers/uac-82I would seriously consider them (and still might in the future), but I'm trying to find affordable horns that will be a better timbre match for my Klipsch collection. Have you called and asked Emotiva that question? I'd be interested in their response. |
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Post by maverick74656 on Nov 17, 2014 16:44:29 GMT -5
I can't help but think the UAC-8.2 would work well as an in-ceiling Atmos speaker. Especially since they are on sale now What does everyone think? emotiva.com/products/speakers/uac-82I would seriously consider them (and still might in the future), but I'm trying to find affordable horns that will be a better timbre match for my Klipsch collection. Have you called and asked Emotiva that question? I'd be interested in their response. I haven't yet, but I think I will. I'm thinking if they do I'll just buy two sets and attempt to patiently wait for Emotiva to release an Atmos processor. Any guesses if Emotiva will have an update someday to add "Dolby Surround Sound" to replace "Dolby Pro Logic II" on the UMC-200 and XMC-1? I hear Dolby Surround Sound is quite the upgrade itself. |
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Post by cwmcobra on Nov 17, 2014 16:53:27 GMT -5
[quote author=" maverick74656" source="/post/690248/thread" timestamp="1416260669 Any guesses if Emotiva will have an update someday to add "Dolby Surround Sound" to replace "Dolby Pro Logic II" on the UMC-200 and XMC-1? I hear Dolby Surround Sound is quite the upgrade itself. [/quote] Since the new Dolby Surround seems part of their Atmos decoding format, I doubt that the new Dolby Surround will be implemented by anyone without the full Atmos decoding, whatever that is at any point in time. My opinion only. I'm hoping for an Emotiva processor that includes decoding and amp/speaker outs for both Atmos 7.1.4 min. and Auro-3D 10.1. That would leave us with the challenge on how to setup speakers to accommodate both. And then there's DTS-UHD that is expected to be released in 2015. I'd be happy to wait for all these format wars to settle out and consensus on the best speaker layout for all. But, I'm designing and will start building my HT very soon, so I need to figure out where to place all my speakers. I have 11 Klipsch Heritage speakers to play with, so need to place them and add whatever ceiling locations that will be required, presumably either 2 or 4. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Nov 17, 2014 18:27:38 GMT -5
I can't help but think the UAC-8.2 would work well as an in-ceiling Atmos speaker. Especially since they are on sale now What does everyone think? emotiva.com/products/speakers/uac-82I would seriously consider them (and still might in the future), but I'm trying to find affordable horns that will be a better timbre match for my Klipsch collection. Have you called and asked Emotiva that question? I'd be interested in their response. I am using 2 pairs of the UAC-8.2 for TF and TR in my new Atmos theater (using the Marantz AV7702). They are doing quite well. I don't think timbre matching is too important with audessey X 32! |
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