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Post by jmilton on Jun 26, 2014 10:46:35 GMT -5
jefft51- That is the Rube Goldberg of turntables. (I'll wait patiently if you need to look that up...)  |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 26, 2014 11:02:21 GMT -5
Sounds like a remote control for something else. my Rega has no such device. |
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Post by milsap195 on Jun 26, 2014 11:14:37 GMT -5
For the last week I have been asking everybody I know if the have a player, no luck so far. Have several pawn shops but only a couple dj tables and a beat up 80's kenwood. I really thought it would be easier to find a cheap one local.
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Post by chaosrv on Jun 26, 2014 11:17:01 GMT -5
For the last week I have been asking everybody I know if the have a player, no luck so far. Have several pawn shops but only a couple dj tables and a beat up 80's kenwood. I really thought it would be easier to find a cheap one local. Have you checked the old (semi) reliable Craigslist? |
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Post by thrillcat on Jun 26, 2014 11:22:58 GMT -5
On a more serious thought, how do you find the sound stage on vinyl? Compared with the CD. The best engineered vinyl recordings I own are made by Sheffield records. I have one called, "The Sheffield Drum Record" Jim Keltner, Ron Tutt, a heavy vinyl LP that plays at 45 RPMs. Sheffield really captured the drum kit with this recording, the entire spectrum of tonal sound. Here comes the Boom Again, like the fact that I don't freak out over surface noise, I don't listen to vinyl for the fidelity. I love the way it sounds, but I also listen more to the mix and the performance than the fidelity and the format and the limitations thereof. If I had to describe it, vinyl sounds like coffee and books. We have Vinyl Sunday every week. We don't turn on the TV, no video games, just music, books, board games, and talk. It's our weekly unplugged session. I like vinyl because it keeps me engaged. I love the convenience of having my entire music collection on my phone at the click of a button, but it also makes it too easy to get distracted and not engage with the music. With vinyl, I tend to put it on and sit down in the room and engage with the music. I'm not the type who has a chair in the room that's properly placed equidistant between the two speakers (that's what my theater is for - different room  ). I will lay on the floor, sit on the couch, just relax and listen. And enjoy. With our busy lives these days, I like that vinyl makes me really slow down and enjoy it. It's therapeutic. |
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Post by chaosrv on Jun 26, 2014 11:27:31 GMT -5
On a more serious thought, how do you find the sound stage on vinyl? Compared with the CD. The best engineered vinyl recordings I own are made by Sheffield records. I have one called, "The Sheffield Drum Record" Jim Keltner, Ron Tutt, a heavy vinyl LP that plays at 45 RPMs. Sheffield really captured the drum kit with this recording, the entire spectrum of tonal sound. Here comes the Boom Again, like the fact that I don't freak out over surface noise, I don't listen to vinyl for the fidelity. I love the way it sounds, but I also listen more to the mix and the performance than the fidelity and the format and the limitations thereof. If I had to describe it, vinyl sounds like coffee and books. We have Vinyl Sunday every week. We don't turn on the TV, no video games, just music, books, board games, and talk. It's our weekly unplugged session. I like vinyl because it keeps me engaged. I love the convenience of having my entire music collection on my phone at the click of a button, but it also makes it too easy to get distracted and not engage with the music. With vinyl, I tend to put it on and sit down in the room and engage with the music. I'm not the type who has a chair in the room that's properly placed equidistant between the two speakers (that's what my theater is for - different room ). I will lay on the floor, sit on the couch, just relax and listen. And enjoy. With our busy lives these days, I like that vinyl makes me really slow down and enjoy it. It's therapeutic. Perfect explanation! I couldn't agree more. |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 26, 2014 11:31:07 GMT -5
On a more serious thought, how do you find the sound stage on vinyl? Compared with the CD. The best engineered vinyl recordings I own are made by Sheffield records. I have one called, "The Sheffield Drum Record" Jim Keltner, Ron Tutt, a heavy vinyl LP that plays at 45 RPMs. Sheffield really captured the drum kit with this recording, the entire spectrum of tonal sound. Here comes the Boom Again, like the fact that I don't freak out over surface noise, I don't listen to vinyl for the fidelity. I love the way it sounds, but I also listen more to the mix and the performance than the fidelity and the format and the limitations thereof. If I had to describe it, vinyl sounds like coffee and books. We have Vinyl Sunday every week. We don't turn on the TV, no video games, just music, books, board games, and talk. It's our weekly unplugged session. I like vinyl because it keeps me engaged. I love the convenience of having my entire music collection on my phone at the click of a button, but it also makes it too easy to get distracted and not engage with the music. With vinyl, I tend to put it on and sit down in the room and engage with the music. I'm not the type who has a chair in the room that's properly placed equidistant between the two speakers (that's what my theater is for - different room ). I will lay on the floor, sit on the couch, just relax and listen. And enjoy. With our busy lives these days, I like that vinyl makes me really slow down and enjoy it. It's therapeutic. I love your statement,all but the part about lack of fidelity!! I don't understand, I have No such issues with 90% of my vinyl collection. I Do listen for all of there great sound and fidelity!!! Yes, everyday but especially Sunday, is vinyl day. sounds like you need a Spin Clean system for your vinyl. Some of the best money I've ever spent,,,,I promise you!! |
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Post by thrillcat on Jun 26, 2014 11:48:29 GMT -5
Again, like the fact that I don't freak out over surface noise, I don't listen to vinyl for the fidelity. I love the way it sounds, but I also listen more to the mix and the performance than the fidelity and the format and the limitations thereof. If I had to describe it, vinyl sounds like coffee and books. We have Vinyl Sunday every week. We don't turn on the TV, no video games, just music, books, board games, and talk. It's our weekly unplugged session. I like vinyl because it keeps me engaged. I love the convenience of having my entire music collection on my phone at the click of a button, but it also makes it too easy to get distracted and not engage with the music. With vinyl, I tend to put it on and sit down in the room and engage with the music. I'm not the type who has a chair in the room that's properly placed equidistant between the two speakers (that's what my theater is for - different room ). I will lay on the floor, sit on the couch, just relax and listen. And enjoy. With our busy lives these days, I like that vinyl makes me really slow down and enjoy it. It's therapeutic. I love your statement,all but the part about lack of fidelity!! I don't understand, I have No such issues with 90% of my vinyl collection. I Do listen for all of there great sound and fidelity!!! Yes, everyday but especially Sunday, is vinyl day. sounds like you need a Spin Clean system for your vinyl. Some of the best money I've ever spent,,,,I promise you!! I'm not saying vinyl lacks fidelity, I'm just saying that sound quality doesn't factor into my decision for collecting/listening to vinyl. It doesn't matter to me whether it sounds better or worse than CD or FLAC or Real Audio. I listen for other reasons. Vinyl sounds great, but I don't obsess over comparing it to my iTunes library. I listen to both. Each has their place and their purpose. I have a Pro-Ject RM1.3, a Marantz 2235b and an old pair of Bose 301's. My room has 15 foot ceilings and a huge, open floor plan. It sounds great. Could I make it sound better? Sure, but why? I'd rather pay $1 for a copy with some surface noise than spend $25 on a pristine new copy. I have never been a 'chase the perfect sound wave' kind of guy with this, because I don't have the time or desire to sit in the sweet spot and listen for hours. I'd rather put something on and play LEGOs with my kid. Another note...if you have kids, get them involved in vinyl. The guys at my record shops love that I bring my 8 year old in. They keep crates of kids records - the old Peter Pan albums with a comic book in them - underneath the racks, and he picks out some stuff while I'm digging. He's actually picked a couple of my favorite albums...like Batman by the Marketts. Fantastic! |
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Post by jefft51 on Jun 26, 2014 12:04:23 GMT -5
jefft51- That is the Rube Goldberg of turntables. (I'll wait patiently if you need to look that up...) If you've ever used one of these, you probably get the Rube Golberg reference  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 26, 2014 12:27:54 GMT -5
For the last week I have been asking everybody I know if the have a player, no luck so far. Have several pawn shops but only a couple dj tables and a beat up 80's kenwood. I really thought it would be easier to find a cheap one local. The Kenwood KD-500 from the late 70's / early 80's with a good tone arm was a great turntable for a steal – the KD-550 had it's own OK tonearm. If it's not too beat up it might be worth a try. |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 26, 2014 13:10:06 GMT -5
I love your statement,all but the part about lack of fidelity!! I don't understand, I have No such issues with 90% of my vinyl collection. I Do listen for all of there great sound and fidelity!!! Yes, everyday but especially Sunday, is vinyl day. sounds like you need a Spin Clean system for your vinyl. Some of the best money I've ever spent,,,,I promise you!! I'm not saying vinyl lacks fidelity, I'm just saying that sound quality doesn't factor into my decision for collecting/listening to vinyl. It doesn't matter to me whether it sounds better or worse than CD or FLAC or Real Audio. I listen for other reasons. Vinyl sounds great, but I don't obsess over comparing it to my iTunes library. I listen to both. Each has their place and their purpose. I have a Pro-Ject RM1.3, a Marantz 2235b and an old pair of Bose 301's. My room has 15 foot ceilings and a huge, open floor plan. It sounds great. Could I make it sound better? Sure, but why? I'd rather pay $1 for a copy with some surface noise than spend $25 on a pristine new copy. I have never been a 'chase the perfect sound wave' kind of guy with this, because I don't have the time or desire to sit in the sweet spot and listen for hours. I'd rather put something on and play LEGOs with my kid. Another note...if you have kids, get them involved in vinyl. The guys at my record shops love that I bring my 8 year old in. They keep crates of kids records - the old Peter Pan albums with a comic book in them - underneath the racks, and he picks out some stuff while I'm digging. He's actually picked a couple of my favorite albums...like Batman by the Marketts. Fantastic! Koto does to you about involving the next generation. and what a much better explanation of all the other attributes of vinyl. I am a little ( ha,,,ha,,,) Hard headed,,,,,just ask around,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thanks for your time and effort. Nick |
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Post by thepcguy on Jun 26, 2014 13:56:05 GMT -5
On a more serious thought, how do you find the sound stage on vinyl? Compared with the CD. The best engineered vinyl recordings I own are made by Sheffield records. I have one called, "The Sheffield Drum Record" Jim Keltner, Ron Tutt, a heavy vinyl LP that plays at 45 RPMs. Sheffield really captured the drum kit with this recording, the entire spectrum of tonal sound. Here comes the Boom Again, like the fact that I don't freak out over surface noise, I don't listen to vinyl for the fidelity. I love the way it sounds, but I also listen more to the mix and the performance than the fidelity and the format and the limitations thereof. If I had to describe it, vinyl sounds like coffee and books. We have Vinyl Sunday every week. We don't turn on the TV, no video games, just music, books, board games, and talk. It's our weekly unplugged session. I like vinyl because it keeps me engaged. I love the convenience of having my entire music collection on my phone at the click of a button, but it also makes it too easy to get distracted and not engage with the music. With vinyl, I tend to put it on and sit down in the room and engage with the music. I'm not the type who has a chair in the room that's properly placed equidistant between the two speakers (that's what my theater is for - different room ). I will lay on the floor, sit on the couch, just relax and listen. And enjoy. With our busy lives these days, I like that vinyl makes me really slow down and enjoy it. It's therapeutic. I thought it's the other way around. In a Home Theater setup, you have a Center Channel so there's no need for the 'sweet spot'. |
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Post by thepcguy on Jun 26, 2014 13:59:53 GMT -5
What kind of records you listen to? At one time, ALL my music was on vinyl (since about Junior High School). My tastes in music were broad (and still are). The best vinyl rig I owned was an AR turntable with a Black Widow arm running a Denon 103s cartridge through Sony step-up transformers into a Van-Alstine modified Dynaco PAS tube preamp to an Adcom GFA-1 power amp to a pair of Dahlquist DQ-10a speakers. At the time, it was a profoundly impressive system. It had all the shortcomings of vinyl - out-of-round records, warps, tics & pops, lack of true deep bass, stylus cleaning, record cleaning, etc. When I went to CD, I cried for the loss of sound quality. Fortunately, over time (lots and lots of time), CD mastering and playback have gotten much better. I don't think that CD will ever equal the best of vinyl - the data isn't there. Higher resolution digital, though, has the ability, IMHO, to match vinyl's sound quality without its shortcomings. Of course, by the time my entire library is released in HD, I'll be too old to appreciate it. Sic transit gloria mundi. Boomzilla What I mean is what is your best recorded Vinyl? |
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Post by milsap195 on Jun 26, 2014 14:06:30 GMT -5
I found a sansui sr838 local. Looks in great shape. He asked 600 seems a little high. It sure is a good looking table. Any opinions?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 26, 2014 14:47:16 GMT -5
I found a sansui sr838 local. Looks in great shape. He asked 600 seems a little high. It sure is a good looking table. Any opinions? I don't know the table but don't remember Sansui ever being highly regarded in that area. Does it come with a decent cartridge to ask that price? That's the key to good sound anyway. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 26, 2014 15:43:23 GMT -5
What I mean is what is your best recorded Vinyl? The Nitty-Gritty Dirt Band - Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Tennessee Stud Itzhak Perlman - Favorite Encores - Perpetum Mobile And lots, lots more I can't remember |
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Post by bluemeanies on Jun 26, 2014 17:02:15 GMT -5
Talking about buying an OLD TT in a PAWN shop or something there of. Does anyone know of a dealer or company who would refurbish that TT with new belts and drive, tone arm and cartridge?
Just asking
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Post by novisnick on Jun 26, 2014 17:46:39 GMT -5
Talking about buying an OLD TT in a PAWN shop or something there of. Does anyone know of a dealer or company who would refurbish that TT with new belts and drive, tone arm and cartridge? Just asking If it needs all of that, I would just move on. belt and cartridge , but more then that,,,,move along,,,,,nothing to see here,,,,,, |
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Post by thepcguy on Jun 26, 2014 18:39:40 GMT -5
What I mean is what is your best recorded Vinyl? The Nitty-Gritty Dirt Band - Will The Circle Be Unbroken - Tennessee Stud Itzhak Perlman - Favorite Encores - Perpetum Mobile And lots, lots more I can't remember I just thought you love vinyl so much (you said you cried when the CD came out) ALL your favorites are in vinyl format. |
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Post by milsap195 on Jun 26, 2014 19:12:27 GMT -5
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). I will lay on the floor, sit on the couch, just relax and listen. And enjoy.
