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Post by clivep on Jun 25, 2014 20:34:27 GMT -5
Could make this post short and just say "wow".
I once had a ~ $12,000 system before I fell on hard times. Now I have a used Arcam amp, some new Kef bookshelf speakers and the ERC-3. And I can truly say this is the best system I've ever owned. I can only imagine what it will do with floorstanding speakers.
The ERC-3 is incredible. It almost seems intelligent, as though it knows how to behave for each genre, each track.
There is detail and richness. There's warmth and precision. There is wide open soundstage and yet accurate placement of each and every instrument. Even in the loudest orchestral passage you can pick out individual instruments.
What an amazing machine. I'm telling everyone who will listen to me. This is a must buy if you have a CD collection that you value.
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 25, 2014 21:41:01 GMT -5
Glad to hear that you like your ERC-3 the same as I like mine, truly an amazing bit of gear.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by creimes on Jun 25, 2014 21:48:19 GMT -5
Hmmmm my ERC-1 is acting up and not taking CD's that great nowadays, and eclub gets 20% off till July 31st...hmmmmmmmmmm ERC-3 maybe in the future, need to work more OT first  |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 25, 2014 22:33:29 GMT -5
Chad, id think about the DC-1 and a cheap CD player/blu ray player.
more connections and better sound IMHO
Wait! just looked at your sig. you have a 103! just do the DC-1
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Post by andyman on Jun 25, 2014 22:38:11 GMT -5
Does the dc1 benefit any system?
Thanks
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Post by creimes on Jun 25, 2014 23:11:30 GMT -5
Chad, id think about the DC-1 and a cheap CD player/blu ray player. more connections and better sound IMHO Wait! just looked at your sig. you have a 103! just do the DC-1 Had the DC-1 been there done that, my ERC-1 trumps my 103 to my ears, the ERC-1 conected to my PT-7030 Balanced input is oh so heavenly |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 25, 2014 23:23:00 GMT -5
Chad, id think about the DC-1 and a cheap CD player/blu ray player. more connections and better sound IMHO Wait! just looked at your sig. you have a 103! just do the DC-1 Had the DC-1 been there done that, my ERC-1 trumps my 103 to my ears, the ERC-1 conected to my PT-7030 Balanced input is oh so heavenly Why do you think the ERC-3 will sound different/better then the DC-1? I don't understand. Granted the 103 does not match the CD-1 or the DC-1 but I don't follow your train of thought, please I lighten me. Nick |
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Post by deltadube on Jun 25, 2014 23:42:14 GMT -5
Had the DC-1 been there done that, my ERC-1 trumps my 103 to my ears, the ERC-1 conected to my PT-7030 Balanced input is oh so heavenly Why do you think the ERC-3 will sound different/better then the DC-1? I don't understand. Granted the 103 does not match the CD-1 or the DC-1 but I don't follow your train of thought, please I lighten me. Nick is the dc 1 on the 20% off sale too since its not on the emo web site anymore but on the emo pro site? thanks |
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Post by deltadube on Jun 25, 2014 23:44:16 GMT -5
Glad to hear that you like your ERC-3 the same as I like mine, truly an amazing bit of gear. Cheers Gary I ve read some post Gary about the erc 3 having a loud noise making motor do you notice yours? thanks |
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Post by creimes on Jun 25, 2014 23:54:29 GMT -5
Had the DC-1 been there done that, my ERC-1 trumps my 103 to my ears, the ERC-1 conected to my PT-7030 Balanced input is oh so heavenly Why do you think the ERC-3 will sound different/better then the DC-1? I don't understand. Granted the 103 does not match the CD-1 or the DC-1 but I don't follow your train of thought, please I lighten me. Nick I doubt they would sound any different, I really just don't need a external DAC, I have a Schitt Modi USB DAC for my Mac Mini so I can listen to quality music in my main zone plus my extra zones through my 7030 and I have nothing else I would need an external DAC for, I just really like the sound of the ERC-1 to 7030  Chad |
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Post by creimes on Jun 25, 2014 23:56:07 GMT -5
Why do you think the ERC-3 will sound different/better then the DC-1? I don't understand. Granted the 103 does not match the CD-1 or the DC-1 but I don't follow your train of thought, please I lighten me. Nick is the dc 1 on the 20% off sale too since its not on the emo web site anymore but on the emo pro site? thanks It will be anything on their site, even the pro gear, 20% is nice for us Canadians eh Bob Chad |
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Post by garbulky on Jun 26, 2014 0:15:41 GMT -5
Had the DC-1 been there done that, my ERC-1 trumps my 103 to my ears, the ERC-1 conected to my PT-7030 Balanced input is oh so heavenly Why do you think the ERC-3 will sound different/better then the DC-1? I don't understand. Granted the 103 does not match the CD-1 or the DC-1 but I don't follow your train of thought, please I lighten me. Nick I haven't heard the ERC-3. However there are some key design differences in the two. The ERC-3 has no analog resistor on a chip volume control. It is minus that component as it has no use it due to it outputing a fixed volume. Not having this component may be beneficial in terms of a shorter signal path/less stuff to introduce noise. The DC-1 has no spinning CD motor to deal with it which may (or may not) impact the power supply in a good way. But the biggest difference is that The DC-1 has two DAC's in it both operating in mono mode. And since it is a balanced DAC you would have a balanced dual mono DAC design. The ERC-3 has a single DAC operating in stereo mode. Whether this translates into an audibly different sound I have no idea. |
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Post by creimes on Jun 26, 2014 0:33:56 GMT -5
Don't forget Garbulky that if using the DC-1 with a CD player of any brand it will as well have a motor, recently I have been noticing the difference of a simple system compared to a bunch of gear in the chain, as I have mentioned I love the way my ERC-1 sounds connected to my 7030 and my 7030 connected to my XPA-1L's using all balanced connections, that being said it is even better to my ears when going ERC-1 to unbalanced Control Freak to XPA-1L's. When I want the best experience listening to 2 channel I use the ERC-1, Control Freak and XPA-1L's, it's not night and day from the 7030 in the chain but IMO it's the best my system can sound, also IMO the analog out on the ERC CD players are amazing, no external DAC needed Chad |
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Post by deltadube on Jun 26, 2014 1:19:19 GMT -5
Don't forget Garbulky that if using the DC-1 with a CD player of any brand it will as well have a motor, recently I have been noticing the difference of a simple system compared to a bunch of gear in the chain, as I have mentioned I love the way my ERC-1 sounds connected to my 7030 and my 7030 connected to my XPA-1L's using all balanced connections, that being said it is even better to my ears when going ERC-1 to unbalanced Control Freak to XPA-1L's. When I want the best experience listening to 2 channel I use the ERC-1, Control Freak and XPA-1L's, it's not night and day from the 7030 in the chain but IMO it's the best my system can sound, also IMO the analog out on the ERC CD players are amazing, no external DAC needed Chad are you going to have a erc 3 shipped out to the boarder ? cheers |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 26, 2014 2:33:07 GMT -5
Glad to hear that you like your ERC-3 the same as I like mine, truly an amazing bit of gear. I ve read some post Gary about the erc 3 having a loud noise making motor do you notice yours? thanks Nope, just the usual tray loading sounds, then when the CD starts to play it's next to silent. In between tracks I might just be able to hear the spin motor if I stick my ear next to it, but from the listening position there's nothing audible. Cheers Gary |
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Post by deltadube on Jun 26, 2014 15:32:16 GMT -5
I ve read some post Gary about the erc 3 having a loud noise making motor do you notice yours? thanks Nope, just the usual tray loading sounds, then when the CD starts to play it's next to silent. In between tracks I might just be able to hear the spin motor if I stick my ear next to it, but from the listening position there's nothing audible. Cheers Gary thanks |
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Post by garbulky on Jun 26, 2014 15:40:47 GMT -5
Don't forget Garbulky that if using the DC-1 with a CD player of any brand it will as well have a motor, recently I have been noticing the difference of a simple system compared to a bunch of gear in the chain, as I have mentioned I love the way my ERC-1 sounds connected to my 7030 and my 7030 connected to my XPA-1L's using all balanced connections, that being said it is even better to my ears when going ERC-1 to unbalanced Control Freak to XPA-1L's. When I want the best experience listening to 2 channel I use the ERC-1, Control Freak and XPA-1L's, it's not night and day from the 7030 in the chain but IMO it's the best my system can sound, also IMO the analog out on the ERC CD players are amazing, no external DAC needed Chad The 7030 always interested me. Something tells me it was one of the previous XMC-1 designs before they decided to go with DIRAC etc. |
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Post by garbulky on Jun 26, 2014 15:41:00 GMT -5
Don't forget Garbulky that if using the DC-1 with a CD player of any brand it will as well have a motor, recently I have been noticing the difference of a simple system compared to a bunch of gear in the chain, as I have mentioned I love the way my ERC-1 sounds connected to my 7030 and my 7030 connected to my XPA-1L's using all balanced connections, that being said it is even better to my ears when going ERC-1 to unbalanced Control Freak to XPA-1L's. When I want the best experience listening to 2 channel I use the ERC-1, Control Freak and XPA-1L's, it's not night and day from the 7030 in the chain but IMO it's the best my system can sound, also IMO the analog out on the ERC CD players are amazing, no external DAC needed Chad The 7030 always interested me. Something tells me it was one of the previous XMC-1 designs before they decided to go with DIRAC etc. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 26, 2014 16:05:39 GMT -5
Don't forget Garbulky that if using the DC-1 with a CD player of any brand it will as well have a motor, recently I have been noticing the difference of a simple system compared to a bunch of gear in the chain, as I have mentioned I love the way my ERC-1 sounds connected to my 7030 and my 7030 connected to my XPA-1L's using all balanced connections, that being said it is even better to my ears when going ERC-1 to unbalanced Control Freak to XPA-1L's. When I want the best experience listening to 2 channel I use the ERC-1, Control Freak and XPA-1L's, it's not night and day from the 7030 in the chain but IMO it's the best my system can sound, also IMO the analog out on the ERC CD players are amazing, no external DAC needed Chad The 7030 always interested me. Something tells me it was one of the previous XMC-1 designs before they decided to go with DIRAC etc. I could be wrong but I seem to recall it being mentioned that the 7030 was a UMC-1 style design, not that that's a bad thing. Cheers Gary |
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Post by garbulky on Jun 26, 2014 16:08:12 GMT -5
The 7030 always interested me. Something tells me it was one of the previous XMC-1 designs before they decided to go with DIRAC etc. I could be wrong but I seem to recall it being mentioned that the 7030 was a UMC-1 style design, not that that's a bad thing. Cheers Gary Maybe it had parts of the UMC-500? |
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