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Post by deltadube on Jul 14, 2014 15:07:18 GMT -5
Hi Andrew.. I have 2 sub woofers on my xsp 1.. they sound better to me on the mono summed sub out with a y splitter.. there is a -3db drop in stereo l and r outputs.. .. more interested in a video series how to set up your room with the xmc 1 with the dirac room correction and peqs.. I don't know a lot about peqs... lessons would be great ... so I can set one up like a pro!!! thanks Sounds to me like your subwoofers are out of phase, which is what is causing the drop in dB -in essence your subs are working against each other opposed to working with one another. There is a difference in gain between unbalanced and balanced, but not between right and left subwoofer outputs. My guess is your subwoofers are out of phase with each other. hello Andrew ... no xmc 1 video how to set up like a pro.. come on bro.... sell more units!!! my subs are in phase... painstakingly done by me and my spl meter.. over a few hours .. now it you read the xsp 1 manual on page 14 section 18 Subwoofer Outputs .. it says... "when the ht bypass mode is inabled all three of the subwoofer outputs carry a buffered copies of the signal received athe the ht sub input ... (the signal is reduced by 3 db on the left and righ stereo outputs .." so the mono summed output has a more powerful signal Andrew? good reason why mono subs are better.. www.nousaine.com/pdfs/Stereo%20Bass.pdf cheers... |
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Post by sme on Jul 15, 2014 0:31:38 GMT -5
All Stereo mode sounds like "Multichannel Stereo" mode on my Denon AVR. The only modes I use for stereo sources are PL2x and plain stereo, both with bass management. I can see interest in the All Stereo mode for parties with lots of people standing in random parts of the room. If I have such a party, I just use plain stereo.
Out of curiosity, who here actually uses DSP modes other than PL2x/z and DTS Neo ** with stereo sources?
I think the ability to PEQ (or independently correct using Dirac) each sub differently but send the same mono sub signal to the room correction filters would be nice. I am also in the camp that believes mono bass management is usually better than stereo bass management, below 80 Hz. I believe exceptions may be in very large (not residential) rooms, especially with large listening areas. Being able to correct the subs independently, however, is a big plus for getting the best in-room response. In fact, such capability makes using mono instead of stereo bass-management all the more compelling!
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Post by Gary Cook on Jul 15, 2014 1:04:08 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, who here actually uses DSP modes other than PL2x/z and DTS Neo ** with stereo sources? From memory I use Direct (stereo digital and Analogue), Stereo 2.1, All Stereo, 5.1 pure analogue Direct, DTS, PL2 in Zone 1 and I use Concert for Zone 2 occasionally. That's the common ones, there maybe others that I don't use that often. Cheers Gary |
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Post by igorzep on Jul 15, 2014 2:51:15 GMT -5
If you have but one subwoofer, you'll want to set the XMC-1's subwoofer setting to 'Mono' then connect your single sub to its left subwoofer output (though I hear engineering has since made it that both the right and left outputs are active in mono mode). Can level trims, phase (polarity) and delays be set separately for both sub outputs in this 'Mono' subwoofer mode? |
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Post by Matt193 on Jul 15, 2014 19:09:26 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the volume adjustment on the XMC-1 works like it does on the UMC-1 as far as speed? That was one thing that always drove me nuts about my UMC-1 was how slow the volume adjustment was especially when a super loud commercial came on.
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Post by Lonnie on Jul 15, 2014 20:30:34 GMT -5
Sounds to me like your subwoofers are out of phase, which is what is causing the drop in dB -in essence your subs are working against each other opposed to working with one another. There is a difference in gain between unbalanced and balanced, but not between right and left subwoofer outputs. My guess is your subwoofers are out of phase with each other. hello Andrew ... no xmc 1 video how to set up like a pro.. come on bro.... sell more units!!! my subs are in phase... painstakingly done by me and my spl meter.. over a few hours .. now it you read the xsp 1 manual on page 14 section 18 Subwoofer Outputs .. it says... "when the ht bypass mode is inabled all three of the subwoofer outputs carry a buffered copies of the signal received athe the ht sub input ... (the signal is reduced by 3 db on the left and righ stereo outputs .." so the mono summed output has a more powerful signal Andrew? good reason why mono subs are better.. www.nousaine.com/pdfs/Stereo%20Bass.pdf cheers... The reason there is a drop of 3db for the left and right subs when in HT bypass mode is because the HT input is only a single input that is being split to two outputs. But when listening to music through the XSP-1, the left and right subs will not have this attenuation. Lonnie |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 15, 2014 20:48:05 GMT -5
hello Andrew ... no xmc 1 video how to set up like a pro.. come on bro.... sell more units!!! my subs are in phase... painstakingly done by me and my spl meter.. over a few hours .. now it you read the xsp 1 manual on page 14 section 18 Subwoofer Outputs .. it says... "when the ht bypass mode is inabled all three of the subwoofer outputs carry a buffered copies of the signal received athe the ht sub input ... (the signal is reduced by 3 db on the left and righ stereo outputs .." so the mono summed output has a more powerful signal Andrew? good reason why mono subs are better.. www.nousaine.com/pdfs/Stereo%20Bass.pdf cheers... The reason there is a drop of 3db for the left and right subs when in HT bypass mode is because the HT input is only a single input that is being split to two outputs. But when listening to music through the XSP-1, the left and right subs will not have this attenuation. Lonnie And that answer my friend, is why Lonnie IS The MAN!!!!! |
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Post by normanu on Aug 8, 2014 8:20:12 GMT -5
Why doesn't the XMC-1 have HDMI® 2.0 and support for HDCP 2.2? (and a version of Dolby Atmos)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 8:43:52 GMT -5
Why doesn't the XMC-1 have HDMI® 2.0 and support for HDCP 2.2? (and a version of Dolby Atmos) Really? Stop trolling and move on... |
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Post by geebo on Aug 8, 2014 8:48:16 GMT -5
Why doesn't the XMC-1 have HDMI® 2.0 and support for HDCP 2.2? (and a version of Dolby Atmos) Because. |
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 8, 2014 9:14:18 GMT -5
Why doesn't the XMC-1 have HDMI® 2.0 and support for HDCP 2.2? (and a version of Dolby Atmos) |
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Post by hifiaudio2 on Aug 8, 2014 10:26:59 GMT -5
Why doesn't it have industry buzzword 2.0? I will wait for that. Hmph.. actually, by the time Emotiva gets around to adding that, industry buzzword 3.0 will be out, or at least announced. This thing will never sell.
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Post by jmilton on Aug 8, 2014 10:50:09 GMT -5
^ If I were you, I would hold out a little longer and get an Insignia receiver with Atmos. I hear it will cost less than $150 AND have HDMI 2.5. That's a product that will sell like hot cakes!
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Post by garbulky on Aug 8, 2014 10:54:17 GMT -5
Why doesn't the XMC-1 have HDMI® 2.0 and support for HDCP 2.2? (and a version of Dolby Atmos) I see you haven't posted in quite awhile. This topic has been discussed for quite sometime and has about several thousand posts about it. Try googling it and you should find the information you need. But the short story is that it doesn't. |
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Post by geebo on Aug 8, 2014 10:54:32 GMT -5
^ If I were you, I would hold out a little longer and get an Insignia receiver with Atmos. I hear it will cost less than $150 AND have HDMI 2.5. That's a product that will sell like hot cakes! And they'll probably have one of those little kiosks at all the Best Buys where people will gather and go Ooooh and Ahhhhh. |
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 8, 2014 11:03:24 GMT -5
^ If I were you, I would hold out a little longer and get an Insignia receiver with Atmos. I hear it will cost less than $150 AND have HDMI 2.5. That's a product that will sell like hot cakes! And they'll probably have one of those little kiosks at all the Best Buys where people will gather and go Ooooh and Ahhhhh. What about Atmos for car systems? Is it a live police helicopter following you or just on the recording? |
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Post by jmilton on Aug 8, 2014 11:19:36 GMT -5
The Insignia speakers are orb shaped. They are called...
Atmos spheres.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 8, 2014 11:32:49 GMT -5
Atmos I think we may be a little pun-ny up in here.
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Post by cwt on Aug 8, 2014 12:04:41 GMT -5
Why doesn't the XMC-1 have HDMI® 2.0 and support for HDCP 2.2? (and a version of Dolby Atmos) I suggest you do some research and look at the shortcomings of all the new atmos avr's from all the ce's ;none of them have all of that in a single avr  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 14:46:17 GMT -5
Realistically, Onkyo is the only company thus far to nearly achieve the goals. They are using a Silicon Image chip to get both 4k60 4:2:0 and HDCP 2.2, but questions remain as to what capabilities within the 2.0 spec they are compliant with. The fact that they are bandwidth limited to 10gbps means they are not true HDMI 2.0. Many companies are advertising HDMI 2.0, but that is a pretty grey area right now since the spec has so many "optional" subcomponents. Aside from what is called out in the newly revised UHD (4K) spec, no one seems to know what exactly makes a device truly HDMI 2.0 compatible. In my eyes, to be truly HDMI 2.0, the device should support 4k60 4:4:4 (18gbps) AND support HDCP 2.2. This does not exist yet.
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