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Post by millst on Jul 28, 2014 12:23:25 GMT -5
People had separate FM tuners at one point. Now they're integrated. Haven't heard anybody complaining about that source being combined and I can't remember the last time I even chose to listen to the radio. -tm And by including it in the XMC-1 there is one less piece of equipment to fire up. I cannot believe this is even being discussed, *obviously* the XMC-1 should have this capability - USB is simply another standard input nowadays.... SCT Lets say it did have this feature (and it appears it is in the future so that part is a moot point) and you also had an OPPO. What would use use for playing music? That is all I'm saying. I personally would not use my preamp this way. I would use my dedicated player. It could be on a disk, it could be in the network, it could be on a thumb drive. But I would use the player every time. And if over time a new format comes along that my player no longer supports, I can just get a new player but still keep the preamp. Call me old fashioned.  |
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Post by bootman on Jul 28, 2014 12:26:52 GMT -5
People had separate FM tuners at one point. Now they're integrated. Haven't heard anybody complaining about that source being combined and I can't remember the last time I even chose to listen to the radio. -tm Lets say it did have this feature (and it appears it is in the future so that part is a moot point) and you also had an OPPO. What would use use for playing music? That is all I'm saying. I personally would not use my preamp this way. I would use my dedicated player. It could be on a disk, it could be in the network, it could be on a thumb drive. But I would use the player every time. And if over time a new format comes along that my player no longer supports, I can just get a new player but still keep the preamp. Call me old fashioned. So your oppo, or any other media player can play FM also? No. I see your point but that function is not replicated anywhere so it doesn't really apply. We can say the same about network video streaming. I don't feel that should be part of a prepro either and should be part of a dedicated player. If you don't want to use a separate player and need an all in one box, there are many options available. But you will still need something for video duties. |
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Post by bluescale on Jul 28, 2014 16:00:20 GMT -5
I don't really disagree with you, boot, but I think the point is that some people find this to be a valuable feature in a prepro. While I wouldn't use it, if it makes the XMC-1 more marketable, and isn't difficult to add, I think it makes a lot of sense for Emotiva to explore the option. Both sides have pretty clearly laid out their thoughts on the matter. I think it's time for everyone to move on to the next feature request. |
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Post by bhart on Jul 28, 2014 16:03:33 GMT -5
HDbaseT, HDMI 2.0 - I wouldn't pay extra for them (see the Integra 60.5 at basically the same price, which does have them, and is shipping). |
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Post by sct on Jul 28, 2014 17:16:11 GMT -5
>> see the Integra 60.5 at basically the same price, which does have them, and is shipping).<<
And which SCT is selling for about 1/2 price right now!! W00t!!
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Post by cwt on Jul 29, 2014 1:01:57 GMT -5
HDbaseT, HDMI 2.0 - I wouldn't pay extra for them (see the Integra 60.5 at basically the same price, which does have them, and is shipping). Yes hdbaset as an alternative to hdmi is good ; though last time I looked 10.2gbps was the maximum throughput for video [hopefully thats improved ] www.soundandvision.com/content/hdbaset-best-new-technology-you-won%E2%80%99t-use-while-anywayAs to hdmi 2.0 ;this is worth repeating from Chris Walker[pio] about what is hdmi 2 and what isnt  "Regarding HDCP 2.2, none of our AVR's support it this year. Pioneer (As well as Denon and Yamaha) opted for full bandwidth HDMI 2.0 (18gbps) so that we can support 4:4:4 content as well as high dynamic rangeand expanded color gamut signals which require more that 10.2gbps. There currently is not a single chip solution that offers both 18gbps and HDCP 2.2. Onkyo decided to go with HDCP 2.2 by using a differentbrand HDMI repeater, however there HDMI 2.0 solution only offers 10.2gbps of bandwidth (Same has HDMI 1.4)." |
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Post by wizardofoz on Jul 29, 2014 13:10:46 GMT -5
I wanna see some OLED options to display old style VU meters loike the OPPO HPA-1 has.. they are sweet...Lonnie made is so BIG....now do something brilliant with it   and why not a spectrum one too  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 29, 2014 13:19:39 GMT -5
I wanna see some OLED options to display old style VU meters loike the OPPO HPA-1 has.. they are sweet...Lonnie made is so BIG....now do something brilliant with it and why not a spectrum one too YES! Two thumbs up ^^ !!! |
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Post by dc2light on Jul 29, 2014 14:39:59 GMT -5
I wanna see some OLED options to display old style VU meters loike the OPPO HPA-1 has.. they are sweet...Lonnie made is so BIG....now do something brilliant with it and why not a spectrum one too YES! Two thumbs up ^^ !!! Make that +3!! |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Jul 30, 2014 18:13:48 GMT -5
2 items I will miss after moving to the XMC-1 are Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ. My current Onkyo has both and I use them. Bits and pieces of these suggestions have appeared in other threads. Dynamic Volume (Midnight Mode):Passages that have loud FX and soft dialog are impossible to listen to at low levels. Applying compression works wonders. Dynamic EQ: Loudness is much more than just a switch you turn on. The Fletcher–Munson curve varies with SPL.  |
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Post by zeppa on Jul 30, 2014 18:20:50 GMT -5
One Knob to Rule Them All...
My dream feature: in place of nine, excuse me, annoying little buttons, I'd rather have one single knob to switch between inputs, like the one in my Yamaha DSP A-1, a feature that, by the way, has been copied ever since by others, Denon, for instance.
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Post by wizardofoz on Jul 30, 2014 20:57:34 GMT -5
I'm ok with buttons...you want a knob on the remote too  I have had one piece of kit that uses the volume knob with a push to select the input operation...I forget what that was/is. I don't have a great liking for something in my rack that looks or reminds me of the other 'rack' with 2 knobs to twiddle with   Oh that one has buttons too...you can't win. Go on HIT me :-) I am having some fun here don't panic. 1900 posts and counting...I think I need to get an XMC real fast...spending way to much time here.  |
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Post by bluescale on Jul 30, 2014 21:01:03 GMT -5
In the beta tester thread, Roger Dressler posted the following. I'm adding it to this thread for posterity sake: On a related note, I think I read that this noise signal is wideband 20 Hz - 20 kHz. That would be unfortunate, as both Dolby and THX require narrow band noise for level calibration. Otherwise any response errors or rolloffs make the SPL results meaningless. Now maybe this is pink noise intended for EQ measurement, in which case wideband is good. But the manual states: which implies to me that wideband noise is intended for level setting, too. Get yourself a good test disc, like Spears & Munsil 2nd edition. It has perfect test signals for 7.1 calibration. On AVS he further explains: Hopefully this can be addressed soon. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 30, 2014 21:06:12 GMT -5
One Knob to Rule Them All...
My dream feature: in place of nine, excuse me, annoying little buttons, I'd rather have one single knob to switch between inputs, like the one in my Yamaha DSP A-1, a feature that, by the way, has been copied ever since by others, Denon, for instance.
Maybe in another processor, we're trying to suggest things that should be considered for XMC-1 firmware upgrades or board swaps in this thread. |
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Post by petew on Jul 30, 2014 21:22:38 GMT -5
I'd like the nine little buttons to have a proximity sensor built into each. Get your finger close, or even gently touch the button and the OLED display fades in the name of the input assigned to the button you're hovering over. Once you find the input you want, click the button to select. WAF+
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jul 30, 2014 21:40:29 GMT -5
I wanna see some OLED options to display old style VU meters loike the OPPO HPA-1 has.. they are sweet...Lonnie made is so BIG....now do something brilliant with it and why not a spectrum one too Let me pretend I'm an Emotiva customer... "Where is the switch to turn off the &@$#% lights???" Just kidding! I love lights; especially blue ones!!! |
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Post by hemster on Jul 30, 2014 21:44:12 GMT -5
I'd like the nine little buttons to have a proximity sensor built into each. Get your finger close, or even gently touch the button and the OLED display fades in the name of the input assigned to the button you're hovering over. Once you find the input you want, click the button to select. WAF+ ....And while the sensor is changing inputs it should also start brewing your coffee, right?  Or tea, if that's your choice of beverage...
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jul 30, 2014 21:50:37 GMT -5
2 items I will miss after moving to the XMC-1 are Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ. My current Onkyo has both and I use them. Bits and pieces of these suggestions have appeared in other threads. Dynamic Volume (Midnight Mode):Passages that have loud FX and soft dialog are impossible to listen to at low levels. Applying compression works wonders. Dynamic EQ: Loudness is much more than just a switch you turn on. The Fletcher–Munson curve varies with SPL. Remember Chuck, The XMC-1 does have true Fletcher-Munson loudness compensation! Its curve is modified by the volume setting. More compensation at lower levels and less as you get louder. If the midnight mode really becomes an issue; it's straightforward to port in. I've never found it to be listenable... But that's me. Cheers, Big Dan |
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Post by hemster on Jul 30, 2014 21:54:10 GMT -5
... If the midnight mode really becomes an issue; it's straightforward to port in.... Cheers, Big Dan That's the beauty of having everything in Emotiva's control! |
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Post by boscobear on Jul 30, 2014 22:15:57 GMT -5
Back in 1977 I had purchased my first real high end audio equipment. It was powered by The Yamaha CR 1020 Receiver, which had a loudness control. I would play music late into the night, at a low volume, but with that loudness control turned up, I would get nearly the same Bass punch that we get during louder musical reproduction. As young man, it took me a while to understand why this loudness control knob was even on the front panel. Once I found out, it was a blessing. I have missed having that necessary, when needed, function for such a long time. Now with the pleasure of having my 4 year old grandson live with me, I can really use this loudness control, so I really need my XMC-1 please, ASAP.
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And by including it in the XMC-1 there is one less piece of equipment to fire up. I cannot believe this is even being discussed, *obviously* the XMC-1 should have this capability - USB is simply another standard input nowadays....
