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Post by bootman on Jul 25, 2014 16:46:10 GMT -5
I never did understand why you would want your preamp to also be a source.
If the new format comes out, then what?
Wouldn't a dedicated player with digital out be a much better solution?
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Post by hifiaudio2 on Jul 25, 2014 17:04:54 GMT -5
Well... since 16 bit 44.1 music makes up 99% of what i want it to play and that format is pretty darn old, I think its safe to assume something that plays that will be adequate for a long time still. Especially since the "advances" in high resolution audio are dubious at best.
Its just really nice and convenient to be able to plug in a usb stick and sort the music and play. Actually for me network based playback is way more important now, but either way... just being able to select and playback songs from an iPad app in my theater chair without having to buy another source component is perfect. My Marantz does this extremely well. Its one of the few things I will really miss when I get my XMC-1.
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Post by urwi on Jul 25, 2014 17:06:21 GMT -5
I agree. A processor should do decoding, switching and audio processing. Nothing else. I never did understand why you would want your preamp to also be a source. If the new format comes out, then what? Wouldn't a dedicated player with digital out be a much better solution? |
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Post by se7en1 on Jul 25, 2014 19:18:48 GMT -5
I agree. A processor should do decoding, switching and audio processing. Nothing else. I never did understand why you would want your preamp to also be a source. If the new format comes out, then what? Wouldn't a dedicated player with digital out be a much better solution? Exactly, it should decode the WAVs and FLACS off my thumbdrive, and give me some sort of interface to accomplish this. |
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Post by bootman on Jul 25, 2014 21:29:15 GMT -5
I agree. A processor should do decoding, switching and audio processing. Nothing else. Exactly, it should decode the WAVs and FLACS off my thumbdrive, and give me some sort of interface to accomplish this. I would call that a player like a oppo or even an iPod (or better yet a Fiio X3) which is much better suited to play media files. |
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Post by cwt on Jul 26, 2014 1:27:26 GMT -5
Exactly, it should decode the WAVs and FLACS off my thumbdrive, and give me some sort of interface to accomplish this. Not much experience with usb-b except transferring files from my txix 3d but since the xmc1's usb-b port can handle flac/wav ; would a hdd enclosure and drive do ? Even if it's only a basic gui like my pt7030 supplies ? upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Usb_firewire_hard_disk_enclosure.jpg |
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Post by urwi on Jul 26, 2014 3:04:49 GMT -5
The XMC-1 does the decoding (not sure if it supports FLAC though) but you need a player to send sound samples or a bitstream into the XMC-1 for decoding. Playback and decoding are two different functionalities. I agree. A processor should do decoding, switching and audio processing. Nothing else. Exactly, it should decode the WAVs and FLACS off my thumbdrive, and give me some sort of interface to accomplish this. |
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Post by wizardofoz on Jul 26, 2014 4:19:28 GMT -5
I designed a back lit aluminum remote sometime back but it was pretty expensive. Would anyone be willing to pay an extra $50.00 for it? Lonnie Oh yes...do we get the non lit one too? |
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Post by audiophill on Jul 26, 2014 7:46:31 GMT -5
I would buy the remote also!!
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Post by roadrunner on Jul 26, 2014 9:10:32 GMT -5
I would buy the remote also!! I would buy the back-lit XMC-1 remote control that Lonnie was asking if we would be willing to pay $50 for and I suspect many of those purchasing the XMC-1 would also make that purchase. |
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Post by se7en1 on Jul 26, 2014 9:50:33 GMT -5
The XMC-1 does the decoding (not sure if it supports FLAC though) but you need a player to send sound samples or a bitstream into the XMC-1 for decoding. Playback and decoding are two different functionalities. Exactly, it should decode the WAVs and FLACS off my thumbdrive, and give me some sort of interface to accomplish this. First I'm surprised that the XMC-1 doesn't do this, I thought this was going to be an included feature up until a recent XMC product page change. Playing WAVs or FLACS directly from the processor is so convenient, USB Flash drive =====> DAC =====> Output, it's a really great feature, simple and very effective way to get high quality sound. Eliminating unnecessary players from the signal path is this not desireable? Why go to the grocery store for milk when the cow is right in the back yard? |
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Post by bootman on Jul 26, 2014 10:05:34 GMT -5
The XMC-1 does the decoding (not sure if it supports FLAC though) but you need a player to send sound samples or a bitstream into the XMC-1 for decoding. Playback and decoding are two different functionalities. First I'm surprised that the XMC-1 doesn't do this, I thought this was going to be an included feature up until a recent XMC product page change. Playing WAVs or FLACS directly from the processor is so convenient, USB Flash drive =====> DAC =====> Output, it's a really great feature, simple and very effective way to get high quality sound. Eliminating unnecessary players from the signal path is this not desireable? Why go to the grocery store for milk when the cow is right in the back yard? AVRs in general make bad media players. Name one that has a better interface than your everyday ipod? |
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Post by hifiaudio2 on Jul 26, 2014 10:31:34 GMT -5
My Marantz's interface is top notch. Full gui, coverart, etc with the free app. Like I said it's one of the only if not THE only thing I will be sad to leave behind when I move to the XMC.
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Post by jmilton on Jul 26, 2014 10:47:48 GMT -5
I agree. I'm reviewing the SR 5009 and it does everything my Oppo 103 can, except play shiny discs. Even plays photos off My Cloud. Elegant face plate too. Works well with Emo amps...
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Post by se7en1 on Jul 26, 2014 10:48:14 GMT -5
AVRs in general make bad media players. Name one that has a better interface than your everyday ipod? A simple file/folder menu system on my ONKYO 1010 plays FLACS,ALACs,WAVs,MP3s etc. directly from the USB. I can navigate song files using the Onkyos front display with or without the remote, or turn on my projector and get the "Big Picture". Play, Pause, Stop, FF, RW, Random, easy file navigation, what do I need an ipod for? I would never knowingly buy an Apple product anyway. The XMC-1 should easily be able to something similar, I really don't see what's bad about this  |
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Post by sct on Jul 26, 2014 10:49:16 GMT -5
I don't really care if the GUI is super slick and whiz bang. As long as I can easily find what I wish to play and the playback sounds good, I'm a happy guy! And I concur with se7en1, I would never knowingly buy a (cr)Apple product, I cannot stand their "we know better than you" attitude!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 10:59:58 GMT -5
My Marantz's interface is top notch. Full gui, coverart, etc with the free app. Like I said it's one of the only if not THE only thing I will be sad to leave behind when I move to the XMC. Was reading online re the Marantz pre/pro you mentioned. One of the features I though was interesting, according to the website: "The AV8801 is also equipped with Audyssey’s LFC (low frequency containment) option, which custom tailors deep bass response to minimize deep bass leakage into adjacent rooms or apartments, while still providing a satisfying wide range listening experience." Can you tell me how this works? Just an EQ or filter? This feature would be helpful where I'm at. Thanks. |
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Post by se7en1 on Jul 26, 2014 11:01:04 GMT -5
I don't really care if the GUI is super slick and whiz bang. As long as I can easily find what I wish to play and the playback sounds good, I'm a happy guy! And I concur with se7en1, I would never knowingly buy a (cr)Apple product, I cannot stand their "we know better than you" attitude! SCT Exactly, no fancy GUI needed, something simple would be just fine. |
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Post by bootman on Jul 26, 2014 11:39:21 GMT -5
AVRs in general make bad media players. Name one that has a better interface than your everyday ipod? A simple file/folder menu system on my ONKYO 1010 plays FLACS,ALACs,WAVs,MP3s etc. directly from the USB. I can navigate song files using the Onkyos front display with or without the remote, or turn on my projector and get the "Big Picture". Play, Pause, Stop, FF, RW, Random, easy file navigation, what do I need an ipod for? I would never knowingly buy an Apple product anyway. The XMC-1 should easily be able to something similar, I really don't see what's bad about this What other gear do you have that can also do this hooked up to the avr? I guess that is my point. It is a feature that is usually already present in another component in your system. But I will agree it would not be a bad thing if it had it, but I don't agree with the notion that is is an essential feature. Fair enough? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 26, 2014 11:53:10 GMT -5
Ok, so we want the XMC-1 to have a file player ... or not.  This was mentioned on the first page (and several times since). Wouldn't this be a better place to discuss this now suggested feature? emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/37875/music-streaming-thread-network-hdmiI'm not trying to be a mod, but I hope we don't try to shoot down each suggestion we don't like in this thread. |
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