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Post by wizardofoz on Sept 9, 2014 11:13:50 GMT -5
Sorry guys I have been a bit snowed under and will be for a few more days so haven't been up to speed with whats bugging everyone the last week or 2. I'll be going back through the pages and try to update the first few posts with some of the latest findings by the end of the weekend coming up.
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Post by audiosyndrome on Sept 9, 2014 13:33:20 GMT -5
2- Unreliable handshake when using HDMI for DSD transfer from my Sony 5400 or Oppo 93. But WOW is the sound great when I do get a proper handshake.  Product support has made note of this. Hey Russ, I'm curious as to what you mean by "unreliable handshake when using HDMI for DSD transfer" ? My XMC-1 never fails to lock on to the Oppo BDP-93 when sending DSD, it just gives an ever so light pop when disengaging from an SACD. Can you describe what it is you are experiencing, and are you on the latest Oppo BDP-93 firmware? Hi LC- found out this AM that rebook CD acts the same as DSD over the HDMI connection from my Sony 5400 or Oppo 93. Either I get no sound, or sound comes on after a while but then goes off and on again. The HDMI indicator on the Sony turns off when I get no sound. That indicates, according to the Sony manual, loss of lock (handshake). The HDMI indicator stays on for the Oppo regardless of sound or not. Both units appear to be working (not) the same. This problem is getting worse as I was able to play complete SACD albums initially after I got initial sound.  Only difference between now and early on is the cable box is no longer connected to the XMC, but goes directly to the TV (per to wife until the passthrough audio problem is fixed). Played a couple of DVDs over HDMI; no problem. I'll go try a bluray disc next. Russ |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Sept 11, 2014 15:03:30 GMT -5
Related issue to one already reported...My Zvox soundbar is connected via an Optical Cable, the soundbar was going into Auto-Standby mode a few times a day. Working with the Zvox support team them feel that the signal from the XMC-1 is right at the threshold of detection. I disabled the Auto-Standby and instead of the unit turning off the volume will cut out and come back on.
The sound bar worked perfectly connected to the TV via the same optical connection. This behavior just started since the XMC was put inline.
Clarification - the XMC is in "Video Switch" mode.
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Post by tubby on Sept 11, 2014 15:10:43 GMT -5
Related issue to one already reported...My Zvox soundbar is connected via an Optical Cable, the soundbar was going into Auto-Standby mode a few times a day. Working with the Zvox support team them feel that the signal from the XMC-1 is right at the threshold of detection. I disabled the Auto-Standby and instead of the unit turning off the volume will cut out and come back on. The sound bar worked perfectly connected to the TV via the same optical connection. This behavior just started since the XMC was put inline. Turn up the XMC volume and turn down the sound bar volume? I have to ask as well, and don't take this the wrong way but using the XMC with a sound bar seems kind of a waste, what it the benefit here? |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Sept 11, 2014 19:55:34 GMT -5
Related issue to one already reported...My Zvox soundbar is connected via an Optical Cable, the soundbar was going into Auto-Standby mode a few times a day. Working with the Zvox support team them feel that the signal from the XMC-1 is right at the threshold of detection. I disabled the Auto-Standby and instead of the unit turning off the volume will cut out and come back on. The sound bar worked perfectly connected to the TV via the same optical connection. This behavior just started since the XMC was put inline. Turn up the XMC volume and turn down the sound bar volume? I have to ask as well, and don't take this the wrong way but using the XMC with a sound bar seems kind of a waste, what it the benefit here? Really, that's your answer. The XMC is operating as a powered Video Switch. Why a Soundbar, when the kids are watching cartoons we don't need the 7.1 fired up (I would connect the soundbar to the TV but another bug, passing audio signals via HDMI from the Tivo to the TV keeps me from hooking it up that way). Yes it is a bug and has been reported in different flavors above. The Audio output is inconsistent when in Video Active or Standby mode. |
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Post by bluescale on Sept 12, 2014 10:34:37 GMT -5
Turn up the XMC volume and turn down the sound bar volume? I have to ask as well, and don't take this the wrong way but using the XMC with a sound bar seems kind of a waste, what it the benefit here? Really, that's your answer. The XMC is operating as a powered Video Switch. Why a Soundbar, when the kids are watching cartoons we don't need the 7.1 fired up (I would connect the soundbar to the TV but another bug, passing audio signals via HDMI from the Tivo to the TV keeps me from hooking it up that way). Yes it is a bug and has been reported in different flavors above. The Audio output is inconsistent when in Video Active or Standby mode. I think his point was that you need higher voltage going to the soundbar. I would recommend increasing the gain on the input the soundbar is connected to. If you go into the input menu, there's an option for level. Bump that up a couple dB. You'll then need to bump down the level for the soundbar. |
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Post by tubby on Sept 12, 2014 10:54:10 GMT -5
Turn up the XMC volume and turn down the sound bar volume? I have to ask as well, and don't take this the wrong way but using the XMC with a sound bar seems kind of a waste, what it the benefit here? Really, that's your answer. The XMC is operating as a powered Video Switch. Why a Soundbar, when the kids are watching cartoons we don't need the 7.1 fired up (I would connect the soundbar to the TV but another bug, passing audio signals via HDMI from the Tivo to the TV keeps me from hooking it up that way). Yes it is a bug and has been reported in different flavors above. The Audio output is inconsistent when in Video Active or Standby mode. Yes it is my answer, and why is it not valid? If the output is too low to activate the soundbar increase the output. However it did occur to me after writing that these are probably fixed level outputs so it might not work. Does it do the same thing if you use coax instead of optical? And I guess you skipped over the "don't take this the wrong way" comment. It was not meant to be insulting, I was just curious why you would pair the two. You seem to have a perfectly valid reason. Sorry for showing an interest in your system. You have to admit just using the XMC with a soundbar would be pretty silly, wouldn't it? |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Sept 12, 2014 20:04:56 GMT -5
Really, that's your answer. The XMC is operating as a powered Video Switch. Why a Soundbar, when the kids are watching cartoons we don't need the 7.1 fired up (I would connect the soundbar to the TV but another bug, passing audio signals via HDMI from the Tivo to the TV keeps me from hooking it up that way). Yes it is a bug and has been reported in different flavors above. The Audio output is inconsistent when in Video Active or Standby mode. Yes it is my answer, and why is it not valid? If the output is too low to activate the soundbar increase the output. However it did occur to me after writing that these are probably fixed level outputs so it might not work. Does it do the same thing if you use coax instead of optical? And I guess you skipped over the "don't take this the wrong way" comment. It was not meant to be insulting, I was just curious why you would pair the two. You seem to have a perfectly valid reason. Sorry for showing an interest in your system. You have to admit just using the XMC with a soundbar would be pretty silly, wouldn't it? I appreciate the reply, the issue here is that the output from the XMC varies. Yes, this weekend I'm going to try the coax connection and see if that makes a difference. What I don't understand is what is active when the unit is in the "Video Switch" mode. I assumed that it was a simple pass through and none of the processing happened (eg the post above about changing the level for the output). This would be the same as a powered HDMI switch. Finally, the soundbar is in place because the TV speakers really stink!!!! The soundbar adds a bit of bass and makes watching basic TV liveable. Sorry if I came across a bit harsh...it was a long day. I do appreciate the help. |
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Post by badsarge on Sept 15, 2014 18:30:28 GMT -5
I have been enjoying my XMC-1 over the last month or so, time flies. The all stereo option has ultimately proven to be my favorite thus far. Maybe not for purists but I like the 'immersive' effect. As far as glitches my only complaints are the before noted trigger issue and a "slight flickering" of the illuminated "e" main power button. I scanned the "bug' pages and located the trigger issue and repair option and will wait for the firmware update to resolve the issue. I don't believe anyone else has mentioned the flickering. But I could have missed the post. If so, please forgive the lapse. The events have been rare, sometimes with the unit powered up, sometimes in standby. Has anyone else noticed this activity?
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Post by geebo on Sept 15, 2014 19:25:19 GMT -5
I have been enjoying my XMC-1 over the last month or so, time flies. The all stereo option has ultimately proven to be my favorite thus far. Maybe not for purists but I like the 'immersive' effect. As far as glitches my only complaints are the before noted trigger issue and a "slight flickering" of the illuminated "e" main power button. I scanned the "bug' pages and located the trigger issue and repair option and will wait for the firmware update to resolve the issue. I don't believe anyone else has mentioned the flickering. But I could have missed the post. If so, please forgive the lapse. The events have been rare, sometimes with the unit powered up, sometimes in standby. Has anyone else noticed this activity? I only get flickering while using my remote. And it makes no difference if it's on or in standby. |
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Post by twism on Sept 15, 2014 20:29:57 GMT -5
I half assumed the flicker was like a status for the remote.
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Post by tubby on Sept 16, 2014 7:45:00 GMT -5
I have been enjoying my XMC-1 over the last month or so, time flies. The all stereo option has ultimately proven to be my favorite thus far. Maybe not for purists but I like the 'immersive' effect. As far as glitches my only complaints are the before noted trigger issue and a "slight flickering" of the illuminated "e" main power button. I scanned the "bug' pages and located the trigger issue and repair option and will wait for the firmware update to resolve the issue. I don't believe anyone else has mentioned the flickering. But I could have missed the post. If so, please forgive the lapse. The events have been rare, sometimes with the unit powered up, sometimes in standby. Has anyone else noticed this activity? Waving my phone in front of the unit make mine flicker. Seriously. I have a Galaxy S5 which has a IR capability and I guess it sends out a signal when moving it around and the XMC senses it. No matter how hard I shake my wife iphone the XMC does nothing. |
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Post by nathanzachary on Sept 17, 2014 21:14:44 GMT -5
I just had to hard shut down my XMC. I was about to play some music through Jriver over usb and the unit basically quit responding. The volume readout on the display is going up or down by 1dB every couple of seconds, and it doesnt respond to any button presses. Hopefully this is a one off. I just scanned through the whole thread and this is the only mention that I see of this problem. For me, here's what happens: 1. Play music from my music server via USB (enjoy every moment). 2. Put the XMC-1 into standby (I have it in Video instead of Lowest Power at the moment) 3a. If I turn it back on relatively soon (haven't measured different durations), all is well. 3b. If I wait for a while (happened within 2 hours this evening), it hangs on "Rethink High-End" on the OLED, and when it eventually goes through, it is so slow that it is basically unresponsive (e.g. adjusting the volume happens at +/- 1 dB per every 6-8 seconds) 4. This requires a hard reboot to get ANY sound out of the unit. As mentioned, I have set it to be fully off (Lowest Power) for the time being, and I'm going to see if the problem still occurs. In any case, though, it would be nice to have the Video on Standby mode working so that the boot times are a bit faster. Cheers, Zach |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Sept 17, 2014 21:22:22 GMT -5
Zach,
I cannot confirm the bug.
I have my XMC-1 in Video standby, as you do.
I play music via USB from my server (AudioPhile linux via MPD).
I have not had any problems with the XMC hanging, no matter how much time I wait to use it again.
It may just be your unit, have you tried a hard reset?
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Post by nathanzachary on Sept 17, 2014 21:29:59 GMT -5
Zach, I cannot confirm the bug. I have my XMC-1 in Video standby, as you do. I play music via USB from my server (AudioPhile linux via MPD). I have not had any problems with the XMC hanging, no matter how much time I wait to use it again. It may just be your unit, have you tried a hard reset? Thanks for letting me know. I will try a hard reset and hope for the best. I'll back up my configuration beforehand, and give it a go. I'll post back after some more testing. |
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Post by aud on Sept 18, 2014 8:54:46 GMT -5
This has happened to me as well. Exactly as you explained it. Turning the back power switch off and on brought the XMC-1 back to normal. I sent a 176.4kHz UPSAMPLED digital signal in ProLogic IIX mode just to see if it would take. This was an SPDIF signal to Coax 1 input.
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Post by nathanzachary on Sept 18, 2014 9:17:08 GMT -5
This has happened to me as well. Exactly as you explained it. Turning the back power switch off and on brought the XMC-1 back to normal. I sent a 176.4kHz UPSAMPLED digital signal in ProLogic IIX mode just to see if it would take. This was a SPDIF signal to Coax 1 input. Interesting. So, it's not just USB audio or something like that. I have done a factory reset, reloaded my configs, and it didn't happen this morning. I'm going to do some more testing, and will bring it up if it happens again. I'm also planning on ringing Emotiva today to ask about a couple of the annoyances that I've seen. No major bugs except for that one.  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 18, 2014 16:29:39 GMT -5
I've just gone and deleted about 3 pages of obvious discussion posts. The OP has asked for only reporting "Bugs" and not discussing them. Discussion should be posted elsewhere please. Thanks for all members cooperation on this! Wizardofoz: Let us know if you'd like for us to clean this thread up any further, I'll be glad to delete any other posts you don't think belongs here. |
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Post by tangible on Sept 18, 2014 19:52:52 GMT -5
NEW MINOR BUG TO REPORT
I'm not sure if this has been reported elsewhere.
HDMI AUDIO SOURCE SELECTION NOT INDICATED ON INFO SCREEN
For my 'HDMI 1' input, I selected 'Optical 1' for the audio source and HDMI 1 for video source.
The Info Screen continues to show audio source as HDMI 1, not Optical.
I confirmed that the audio is coming from the optical source (and it needed a BIG delay factor - 100ms).
This is a minor issue.
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Sept 18, 2014 20:00:53 GMT -5
I booted up the other day with the Oppo and had no audio. The Xmc would not power down so I did a hard off from the back. When I turned it back on it was in diagnostic mode with some options for tested leds and other things. I shut it down again from the back and it booted up and worked fine after that.
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Product support has made note of this.
