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Post by rswood on Oct 19, 2014 10:13:14 GMT -5
It has been 37 days since Kiethl replied to my original post, he stated it could be 5min, 5hrs, or 5 days, he said it was ecentially done just some further testing needed.
The frustration for some of us with less than perfect rooms, Dirac is important and was a driving factor in the purchase.
A lack of follow up after 5 days and testing went bye is frustrating. I will make a decision soon, to keep my XMC-1 or go to an Audyssey equipped processor, it is a shame because I do like the raw sound of the XMC, but I need room correction. I am sure there are other people in the same boat.
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 19, 2014 10:23:28 GMT -5
It has been 37 days since Kiethl replied to my original post, he stated it could be 5min, 5hrs, or 5 days, he said it was ecentially done just some further testing needed. The frustration for some of us with less than perfect rooms, Dirac is important and was a driving factor in the purchase. A lack of follow up after 5 days and testing went bye is frustrating. I will make a decision soon, to keep my XMC-1 or go to an Audyssey equipped processor, it is a shame because I do like the raw sound of the XMC, but I need room correction. I am sure there are other people in the same boat. I'm going to continue to be patient. The XMC-1 even without automatic room correction is way better sonically than my Pioneer Elite receiver. The sound is clearer and more detailed. This is the best processor I have ever owned. The thought of going to another receiver even if it have the latest Audessey does not thrill me. Having said that, I do want and need automatic room correction. I know I could probably do it manually, but I don't want to. I do hope Dirac is coming soon, but I do agree with most here that either a release or update from someone in the know at Emotiva would be greatly appreciated. After this much time, being in the dark is no fun.
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Post by geebo on Oct 19, 2014 10:56:58 GMT -5
If it was, it wasn't a very good one as even that website is up and running ok by now. Now that says something. Sorry sorry it was just a joke, nobody get bent out of shape over it. Emotiva is wonderful, yea them. I'll leave now. I wonder how much money (our money) and resources (professionals) was poured into that one compared to the Emo/Dirac connection. But hey, it's a communication marvel now so I guess we got our money's worth.
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Post by amt on Oct 19, 2014 13:39:02 GMT -5
This situation is exactly why I have not bought the xmc-1 yet. Sorry you guys had to wait past yet another missed deadline. There's one thing I have learned from dealing with emotiva: never ever believe their release dates.
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Post by ansat on Oct 19, 2014 13:46:42 GMT -5
This situation is exactly why I have not bought the xmc-1 yet. Sorry you guys had to wait past yet another missed deadline. There's one thing I have learned from dealing with emotiva: never ever believe their release dates. Ah. But here is the catch. Right now, not one of us who have the xmc have even started the 30 day trial. Per the xmc email. " Since Dirac isn’t quite ready, if you purchase your XMC-1 now, of course we’ll extend your 30-day trial period until 30 days after we send you the Dirac update. " Tony
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 19, 2014 13:47:15 GMT -5
This situation is exactly why I have not bought the xmc-1 yet. Sorry you guys had to wait past yet another missed deadline. There's one thing I have learned from dealing with emotiva: never ever believe their release dates. And that was all our choices. Buy it or wait. I for one am very happy I bought it because it's a huge improvement over my previous receiver. If you are one who cannot wait for something, then you made the right decision. .....And what Tony said!
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Post by badong on Oct 19, 2014 13:53:41 GMT -5
Yep. Even without room correction this is the best surround processor I have ever heard and for pure stereo it destroys everything south of $8000. I guess I would be upset if this wasn't the case.
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Oct 19, 2014 15:00:30 GMT -5
I just hope it's some time this year.
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Post by foggy1956 on Oct 19, 2014 15:02:29 GMT -5
If it was, it wasn't a very good one as even that website is up and running ok by now. Now that says something. Sorry sorry it was just a joke, nobody get bent out of shape over it. Emotiva is wonderful, yea them. I'll leave now. I wonder how much money (our money) and resources (professionals) was poured into that one compared to the Emo/Dirac connection. But hey, it's a communication marvel now so I guess we got our money's worth. That a humorous remark also?☺
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Post by geebo on Oct 19, 2014 15:58:32 GMT -5
I wonder how much money (our money) and resources (professionals) was poured into that one compared to the Emo/Dirac connection. But hey, it's a communication marvel now so I guess we got our money's worth. That a humorous remark also?☺ Why don't YOU decide? ☺
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Post by wbroshea on Oct 19, 2014 16:27:17 GMT -5
If it was, it wasn't a very good one as even that website is up and running ok by now. Now that says something. Sorry sorry it was just a joke, nobody get bent out of shape over it. Emotiva is wonderful, yea them. I'll leave now. I wonder how much money (our money) and resources (professionals) was poured into that one compared to the Emo/Dirac connection. But hey, it's a communication marvel now so I guess we got our money's worth. You're killing me here. My response - right now it works better than Dirac on the XMC-1 wouldn't you say. Really, it is just joke. All will be ok. In reality, the person that said nda regarding discussions about Dirac's processing, code, communication is very, very likely to be correct.
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Post by geebo on Oct 19, 2014 16:35:02 GMT -5
I wonder how much money (our money) and resources (professionals) was poured into that one compared to the Emo/Dirac connection. But hey, it's a communication marvel now so I guess we got our money's worth. You're killing me here. My response - right now it works better than Dirac on the XMC-1 wouldn't you say. Really, it is just joke. All will be ok. In reality, the person that said nda regarding discussions about Dirac's processing, code, communication is very, very likely to be correct. Just trying to put things in perspective here. Working better than Dirac on the XMC right now isn't saying a whole lot.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Oct 20, 2014 15:08:50 GMT -5
Hi guys, Well, just got back from a trip to Asia with Miss Cathy and what a week it was, traffic accident and all! The best part of the trip was sitting next to my bride on the Star Ferry as we went from Kowloon to the Hong Kong convention center everyday. It's the simple things... But I digress... Just got done listening to the amazing results obtained with Dirac room correction from our humble 7.2 system in the company meeting room. This is a system consisting of Emotiva 6" two-way in-walls and a pair of old Ref-12 subs. Wow! It sounded wonderful! It was hard to believe we were listing to in-wall speakers. Too add to my excitement, Ray had the system communicating with the Dirac mainframe via a wireless hot spot. No simple task! A great robustness test indeed. Anyway, I guess the real point of my posting is to let you now that we are so very close to release that my heart is skipping a bit! Keep the faith, your patience will be well rewarded! Dirac rocks!! Cheers, Big Dan
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Post by rh286x on Oct 20, 2014 15:24:07 GMT -5
Hi Dan, Thanks very much for the update! It is greatly appreciated.
Regards
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Post by LuisV on Oct 20, 2014 15:26:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the update about Dirac and hopefully all is doing well from the accident.
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2014 15:37:47 GMT -5
Hi guys, Well, just got back from a trip to Asia with Miss Cathy and what a week it was, traffic accident and all! The best part of the trip was sitting next to my bride on the Star Ferry as we went from Kowloon to the Hong Kong convention center everyday. It's the simple things... But I digress... Just got done listening to the amazing results obtained with Dirac room correction from our humble 7.2 system in the company meeting room. This is a system consisting of Emotiva 6" two-way in-walls and a pair of old Ref-12 subs. Wow! It sounded wonderful! It was hard to believe we were listing to in-wall speakers. Too add to my excitement, Ray had the system communicating with the Dirac mainframe via a wireless hot spot. No simple task! A great robustness test indeed. Anyway, I guess the real point of my posting is to let you now that we are so very close to release that my heart is skipping a bit! Keep the faith, your patience will be well rewarded! Dirac rocks!! Cheers, Big Dan Great news Dan! Thanks for the heads-up!
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Post by darien87 on Oct 20, 2014 16:13:23 GMT -5
Just got done listening to the amazing results obtained with Dirac room correction from our humble 7.2 system in the company meeting room. This is a system consisting of Emotiva 6" two-way in-walls and a pair of old Ref-12 subs. Wow! It sounded wonderful! It was hard to believe we were listing to in-wall speakers. Too add to my excitement, Ray had the system communicating with the Dirac mainframe via a wireless hot spot. No simple task! A great robustness test indeed. Forgive my ignorance Senor Dan but does this mean that the XMC needs to communicate with the Dirac mainframe EVERY time it runs??? I was under the impression that you only needed to communicate with their site once for licensing and from then on you were good to go?
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2014 16:19:34 GMT -5
Just got done listening to the amazing results obtained with Dirac room correction from our humble 7.2 system in the company meeting room. This is a system consisting of Emotiva 6" two-way in-walls and a pair of old Ref-12 subs. Wow! It sounded wonderful! It was hard to believe we were listing to in-wall speakers. Too add to my excitement, Ray had the system communicating with the Dirac mainframe via a wireless hot spot. No simple task! A great robustness test indeed. Forgive my ignorance Senor Dan but does this mean that the XMC needs to communicate with the Dirac mainframe EVERY time it runs??? I was under the impression that you only needed to communicate with their site once for licensing and from then on you were good to go? My understanding is that the communication must take place for filter creation which is done on Dirac's computers. So only whenever you want to create a new filter will it be necessary.
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Post by bluescale on Oct 20, 2014 17:20:28 GMT -5
My understanding is that the communication must take place for filter creation which is done on Dirac's computers. So only whenever you want to create a new filter will it be necessary. This is exactly how it works on the PC edition, and there's no reason to believe it'll be any different on the XMC-1. In order to protect their IP, Dirac has all filter calculation and creation happen on their servers. I'm pretty sure the data packets are small (unfortunately my trial ran out long ago, so I can't confirm), but timeouts could be part of the communication issues. As a co-worker pointed out, if the filter creation takes a bit of time, the idle secure connection could be closing out. The solution would be to send keep-alive packets. It seems simple enough, but the devil is the details.
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Post by Jim on Oct 20, 2014 19:06:49 GMT -5
Forgive my ignorance Senor Dan but does this mean that the XMC needs to communicate with the Dirac mainframe EVERY time it runs??? I was under the impression that you only needed to communicate with their site once for licensing and from then on you were good to go? My understanding is that the communication must take place for filter creation which is done on Dirac's computers. So only whenever you want to create a new filter will it be necessary. As far as I know - that's exactly how the Datasat processor works with Dirac as well. I don't know what software it includes - it might include the full blown Dirac software. If you only build filters once, you only talk to the servers once.
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