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Post by daveburt on Sept 28, 2014 1:43:34 GMT -5
I'm just curious... I have quite a few Movies on my NAS, and I usually do them in M2TS. I've tried ripping them to MKV and other options in the past, but have always had problems with audio/video quality using other formats...  M2TS results in pretty big files, but they look good from the HTPC! Am I missing something? Is there a better option? Thanks, Dave |
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Post by KeithL on Sept 28, 2014 2:56:00 GMT -5
If you use something like AnyDVD, it will allow you to do a lossless rip (it simply copies the disc content to your hard disc without re-encoding it). This will give you the best quality, but also take up the most space, and require a lot of network bandwidth to get smooth playback. I'm just curious... I have quite a few Movies on my NAS, and I usually do them in M2TS. I've tried ripping them to MKV and other options in the past, but have always had problems with audio/video quality using other formats... M2TS results in pretty big files, but they look good from the HTPC! Am I missing something? Is there a better option? Thanks, Dave |
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Post by deewan on Sept 28, 2014 7:44:22 GMT -5
I use MakeMKV. MakeMKV is freeware, so I really like it. I've found that it offers:
* Zero loss in quality (Full 1920 x 1080 image - Full HD Audio)
* MKV container is easier to stream on a network
* File size of the MKV will be smaller than the ISO as you only keep the Playlist, Subs and Audio tracks that you need.
* Subtitles are supported (depending on the media player you use)
* Chapter functionality is fully retained (again depending on the media player you use).
* As the MVC is one file within the MKV it solves the problem of branched BD’s – Most players cannot deal that well with M2TS / HD Audio files that are split -- you can get audio and picture freeze when jumping from one branch to another.
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Post by jevans64 on Sept 28, 2014 21:47:04 GMT -5
I also use MakeMKV to rip what I need to the .mkv container. From there it is easy to encode using Handbrake if storage is an issue. I rip bit-for-bit but that takes A LOT of storage. I just ordered 5 more 4TB HGST NAS drives and a Mobius 5-bay RAID enclosure. The 5 4TB drives will go in the NAS and the 3TB drives that are in the NAS will go into the Mobius. I also have an additional 6TB and 8TB using a pair of AMS Venus enclosures. That should tide me over until the 5TB and 6TB drives come down in price.
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Post by Hair Nick on Sept 29, 2014 10:02:56 GMT -5
MakeMKV is what I use as well. Easiest way to go about ripping your blurays. Nice to be able to pick and choose what audio formats, subtitles, or extra stuff you want off the disc. I rip to a 4TB drive for my movies but I'm about to upgrade to the Western Digital EX4 NAS for 16TB total.
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Post by jevans64 on Sept 29, 2014 21:04:58 GMT -5
MakeMKV is what I use as well. Easiest way to go about ripping your blurays. Nice to be able to pick and choose what audio formats, subtitles, or extra stuff you want off the disc. I rip to a 4TB drive for my movies but I'm about to upgrade to the Western Digital EX4 NAS for 16TB total. I looked at the My Cloud EX4 when looking for a NAS. The only thing I really didn't like was the transfer speed. I was getting between 20MB/s and 40MB/s when writing large files to the EX4. I'll add that WD is supposed to have a firmware update that speeds it up a little bit but it will still take FOREVER to copy over lots of ripped BDs. The Synology NAS with dual core and 4GB of RAM wipes the floor with EX4 with speeds anywhere from 120MB/s to over 200MB/s. That performance comes at a price though since a diskless Synology runs $730 to $980. The expense of adding even the Synology expansion modules is why I'm going with EHDs that connect to a host computer using eSATA or USB3 for secondary storage. My computers are in a different room but are connected by an Ethernet switch, so having to keep the small computer on while accessing the connected EHDs isn't an issue. I've ordered a new Gigabit switch that will work better with the WRT1900AC router, so I'll run some new network copy tests when I install it. As far as PC to EHD copies, I get anywhere from 42MB/s to 160MB/s with the AMS Venus DS3R Pro2, which are about $80. The Mobius is supposed to be faster, but we will see when I get it all put together with the new switch. The cost for the Mobius was $230 and the drives ( 5x 4TB HGST Deskstar NAS ) were $832.45. |
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Post by plm on Sept 29, 2014 23:27:41 GMT -5
I use MakeMKV to make MKVs too. I can't think of a better format.
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Post by Hair Nick on Sept 30, 2014 8:22:56 GMT -5
MakeMKV is what I use as well. Easiest way to go about ripping your blurays. Nice to be able to pick and choose what audio formats, subtitles, or extra stuff you want off the disc. I rip to a 4TB drive for my movies but I'm about to upgrade to the Western Digital EX4 NAS for 16TB total. I looked at the My Cloud EX4 when looking for a NAS. The only thing I really didn't like was the transfer speed. I was getting between 20MB/s and 40MB/s when writing large files to the EX4. I'll add that WD is supposed to have a firmware update that speeds it up a little bit but it will still take FOREVER to copy over lots of ripped BDs. The Synology NAS with dual core and 4GB of RAM wipes the floor with EX4 with speeds anywhere from 120MB/s to over 200MB/s. That performance comes at a price though since a diskless Synology runs $730 to $980. The expense of adding even the Synology expansion modules is why I'm going with EHDs that connect to a host computer using eSATA or USB3 for secondary storage. My computers are in a different room but are connected by an Ethernet switch, so having to keep the small computer on while accessing the connected EHDs isn't an issue. I've ordered a new Gigabit switch that will work better with the WRT1900AC router, so I'll run some new network copy tests when I install it. As far as PC to EHD copies, I get anywhere from 42MB/s to 160MB/s with the AMS Venus DS3R Pro2, which are about $80. The Mobius is supposed to be faster, but we will see when I get it all put together with the new switch. The cost for the Mobius was $230 and the drives ( 5x 4TB HGST Deskstar NAS ) were $832.45. I was looking at the Synology too but that price is a little too much for me to justify. I like the WD interface and works really well with Mac (my whole house is apple universe). The slower transfer speeds don't bother me since I can transfer batches overnight or while I'm at work. |
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Post by cburbs on Sept 30, 2014 9:53:26 GMT -5
I use MakeMKV. MakeMKV is freeware, so I really like it. I've found that it offers: * Zero loss in quality (Full 1920 x 1080 image - Full HD Audio) * MKV container is easier to stream on a network * File size of the MKV will be smaller than the ISO as you only keep the Playlist, Subs and Audio tracks that you need. * Subtitles are supported (depending on the media player you use) * Chapter functionality is fully retained (again depending on the media player you use). * As the MVC is one file within the MKV it solves the problem of branched BD’s – Most players cannot deal that well with M2TS / HD Audio files that are split -- you can get audio and picture freeze when jumping from one branch to another. Have to agree with this and easy to use..... |
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Post by djoel on Sept 30, 2014 10:00:46 GMT -5
Anyone here likes DvdFab? I used them for 30 day trail and I like it better Anyone here likes DvdFab? I used them for 30 day trail and I like it better than Makemkv. With Makemkv things seem a little foggy to me, I didn't know when things ended or if they're were actually recording, and such..
I'm not knocking Makemkv, I'm use it was user error, and I'm a super nubbie when it comes to these thing.
I believe Dvdfab are having some legal issues currently, and I don't feel like getting in the middle of the drama.
So is Makemkv totally free, as in no cost to my pockets? I thought I was doing a month trail, I would definitely give them a second try now that I'm more aware.
Would I have play back issues with my Htpc is I use two different methods/programs to rip blu rays?
Thanks and pardon the sneak questions
Dan
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Post by restless on Sept 30, 2014 10:02:33 GMT -5
One problem I had with MakeMKV is that it ate my Pioneer BLU RAY drivers, and now cannot play Blu Ray on my PC and can only use the drive to RIP from.
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Post by deewan on Sept 30, 2014 13:52:42 GMT -5
Anyone here likes DvdFab? I used them for 30 day trail and I like it better Anyone here likes DvdFab? I used them for 30 day trail and I like it better than Makemkv. With Makemkv things seem a little foggy to me, I didn't know when things ended or if they're were actually recording, and such.. I'm not knocking Makemkv, I'm use it was user error, and I'm a super nubbie when it comes to these thing. I believe Dvdfab are having some legal issues currently, and I don't feel like getting in the middle of the drama. So is Makemkv totally free, as in no cost to my pockets? I thought I was doing a month trail, I would definitely give them a second try now that I'm more aware. Would I have play back issues with my Htpc is I use two different methods/programs to rip blu rays? Thanks and pardon the sneak questions Dan I have both DVDFab and MakeMKV. I paid for 2 years of licencing for DVDFab and used to use it to rip my .iso files. I like DVDFab, very user friendly and simple. Those .iso files worked well with an old media player I had but with that player I didn't have forced subtitles and some chapter functions were lost. When I switched to a different media player I had problems with .iso files and began ripping .mkv files with MakeMKV. Pretty much zero problems since. If you spend a few minutes to understand MakeMKV, is is simply to use. Pop in disc, click on disc to 'scan', select your video, audio, and subtitle tracks and then create. A couple more steps than DVDFab, but the files are smaller since they aren't a full BluRay copy (only movie and audio tracks I want) and all media players that I have now play nice with MKV files. MakeMKV is totally free, no out of pocket, as long as you are using the beta versions. I've always used the beta version and have had no issues. |
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Post by brubacca on Sept 30, 2014 13:53:22 GMT -5
I used DVDFab for a bit. I really liked the GPU acceleration feature if you have an NVidea graphics card. I purchased the Dvd version. Now I just use MakeMKV. It rips blue rays fast. Simple to use, and it's the same program for DVD and Blue Ray. There was also some verbiage on the DvDFab website which I didn't understand and I was unsure if it would continue to support copy protected movies. I usually only rip my own discs.
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Post by djoel on Sept 30, 2014 14:58:46 GMT -5
Cool guys thank you for all that great info, I'm going to reinstall MakeMkv again and see where it takes me this time around.
DJoel
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Post by jevans64 on Oct 1, 2014 2:25:22 GMT -5
I looked at the My Cloud EX4 when looking for a NAS. The only thing I really didn't like was the transfer speed. I was getting between 20MB/s and 40MB/s when writing large files to the EX4. I'll add that WD is supposed to have a firmware update that speeds it up a little bit but it will still take FOREVER to copy over lots of ripped BDs. The Synology NAS with dual core and 4GB of RAM wipes the floor with EX4 with speeds anywhere from 120MB/s to over 200MB/s. That performance comes at a price though since a diskless Synology runs $730 to $980. The expense of adding even the Synology expansion modules is why I'm going with EHDs that connect to a host computer using eSATA or USB3 for secondary storage. My computers are in a different room but are connected by an Ethernet switch, so having to keep the small computer on while accessing the connected EHDs isn't an issue. I've ordered a new Gigabit switch that will work better with the WRT1900AC router, so I'll run some new network copy tests when I install it. As far as PC to EHD copies, I get anywhere from 42MB/s to 160MB/s with the AMS Venus DS3R Pro2, which are about $80. The Mobius is supposed to be faster, but we will see when I get it all put together with the new switch. The cost for the Mobius was $230 and the drives ( 5x 4TB HGST Deskstar NAS ) were $832.45. I was looking at the Synology too but that price is a little too much for me to justify. I like the WD interface and works really well with Mac (my whole house is apple universe). The slower transfer speeds don't bother me since I can transfer batches overnight or while I'm at work. I'm platform agnostic when it comes to EHDs. I took a hard look at OWC, Drobo, StorSAN, and Dyconn before picking the Mobius. Those all support OSX and the only color the Dyconn comes in is Macintosh silver. LOL The Mobius doesn't have Thunderbolt but it does have USB2/3, FW400/800, and eSATA. The transfer speeds on the OWC Thunderbolt EHDs are insane. Thunderbolt was developed by Intel. Not sure why every x86 motherboard that take Intel chips don't have Thunderbolt as a high-end option. I hear it is expensive to implement though, adding $80 to motherboard cost. I got the drives and switch. That switch made a big difference in transfers from an EHD connected to the WRT1900AC to a computer over the network and through the switch. Not much of a difference when not going through the switch and only a 20% increase when transferring between two computers connected to the new switch. Oyen Digital can't keep the Mobius in stock, so mine has been delayed a few days. |
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Post by jevans64 on Oct 1, 2014 2:35:37 GMT -5
Cool guys thank you for all that great info, I'm going to reinstall MakeMkv again and see where it takes me this time around. DJoel If it has been a while since you've used MakeMKV, they have made it a little easier to rip the right tracks. Even at that, I STILL have to re-rip on occasion because I forgot to check a particular audio track when selectively ripping. MakeMKV is currently in an upgrade cycle, so there is NO valid key to use at the moment. These cycles usually happen at the end of the month and last 4 or 5 days. A new key should be posted on the forums in a few days. |
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Post by vinylfreak on Oct 1, 2014 6:18:53 GMT -5
I have always used ANYDVDHD and just ripped the BR to its native format. I want it to be the same full fidelity as the original disc.
I also don't edit out any trailers , adverts etc.... Im just too lazy and storage is cheap.... 
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Post by sct on Oct 1, 2014 7:57:24 GMT -5
I use DVDFab and really like the program - it is fast, very easy to use, and everything I've ripped has played back flawlessly.
SCT
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Post by djoel on Oct 1, 2014 10:26:42 GMT -5
So I was trying to start up MakeMkv in my Htpc but I got a download message, and the version I had was outdate..I tried to update, but I a need keycode? I don't recall having a keycode, or password for it. Should I reload the whole thing again? Of course I would need to uninstall it first.
Thanks
Dan
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 1, 2014 10:28:26 GMT -5
How does one rip AUDIO blu-rays? Are these the same as SACDs?
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