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Post by tunatamer on Feb 25, 2015 18:14:33 GMT -5
Has anyone done any comparision between Dirac measurments with grills on or off?
Figure this is the thread to ask....
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Post by Lsc on Feb 25, 2015 20:39:50 GMT -5
Has anyone done any comparision between Dirac measurments with grills on or off? Figure this is the thread to ask.... I haven't but I think I took the measurements with the grills on but now have them off. It sounds better with them off. I won't be doing another measurement...it's so dam tedious.  |
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Post by socketman on Feb 25, 2015 21:21:16 GMT -5
Has anyone done any comparision between Dirac measurments with grills on or off? Figure this is the thread to ask.... I haven't but I think I took the measurements with the grills on but now have them off. It sounds better with them off. I won't be doing another measurement...it's so dam tedious. The hard part is making the world STFU  I find 3 or 4 measurements give a pretty good pattern. You can make 1 run and go straight to the results. |
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Post by rdavidw on Mar 4, 2015 16:03:53 GMT -5
Just ran Dirac with Tony's math cal. I also set all the mic measurements up about 8" higher.
Wow!
Wow!
Wow!
Amazing!
I kind of liked Dirac before but it was a trade off of having the music sounding too bright and tinty but gaining clarity and imaging. I would typically turn Dirac on for movies and switch back to preset 1 for music. I tried pumping up my sub levels but the tones were off with Dirac even after running it a few times with the automatic gain off, mic set with a ruler and level and so on.
After running Tony's math cal file the tones with Dirac sound nearly identical to the tone levels of preset 1, which are perfect for my taste (tone and EQ all at 0 but front speakers set to large with a sub). Switching back and forth from Dirac to preset 1, the overall tone does not seem to change at all but the crispness and imaging are night and day better with Dirac on. With Dirac off, the low end sounds muddy and flat and the mids and highs lack texture and image. (I thought it sounded great until I got Dirac working properly, shows you how relative everything is.) The improvement is not subtle. My 15 yr old didn't know I made any changes and when he came home I had a record on. He said, "Wow - that sounds awesome. Did you get something new?"
I know its a matter of taste, but it might be nice to supply future XMC-1 owners with both cal files and let them pick the one that works best for them.
Thank you to everyone on the Emotiva team and on this form, especially Tony. The XMC-1 is spectacular!
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 4, 2015 17:19:49 GMT -5
rdavidw - could you provide a link to the info on Tony's math calc? Thanks
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Post by weigle2 on Mar 4, 2015 17:47:41 GMT -5
rdavidw - could you provide a link to the info on Tony's math calc? Thanks Not butting in here, but Tony's and Socketman's Cal files can be had from Tony's (Ansat) signature at the bottom of his post(s). Fellow loungers, please correct me if I am wrong. I too, prefer Tony's Cal file over the default. Brings out the LFE and bass and tames the high end a little bit which is very helpful when all your speakers use exponential horns. They tend to sound a little on the bright side. |
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Post by rdavidw on Mar 4, 2015 18:25:26 GMT -5
Yes - There is a link in his signature to a zip file that also has the instructions. Very easy to do. There are two to choose from but I recall reading they are very similar. I only used the math one.
Tony is awsome.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 4, 2015 21:29:55 GMT -5
Thanks |
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Post by phaselinear on Mar 4, 2015 22:51:09 GMT -5
I too am sold on Tony's files. I used the vertical mic file and the difference is outstanding. This is what I expected out of the stock calibration but no dice. Thanks Tony, and everyone who contributed to this project.
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Post by acumars on Mar 15, 2015 16:18:58 GMT -5
I'm new and late to this thread. I thank Tony and socketman for all their efforts. In my system, the modified file sounds orders of magnitudes better. Better defined bass, smooth mids and sparkling highs. I can't wait to get full Dirac so that I can create a "house curve."
George
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Post by thompson12 on Mar 28, 2015 20:04:20 GMT -5
 Driac live graphs With Pendragons Mitch Attachments:
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Post by socketman on Mar 28, 2015 20:55:52 GMT -5
My Axioms have a very similar measurement, very exaggerated lower bass but nothing I can do since its a small room and cant get out of the corners or away from the walls. Dirac has no trouble correcting it though. Post some after shots as well.
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Post by htguy on Mar 29, 2015 0:37:53 GMT -5
Would be really interesting to see how the new DIRAC full using the Emotiva Mic compares to Tony's file? Anyone attempted it or going to attempt it?
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Post by thompson12 on Mar 29, 2015 8:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by thompson12 on Mar 29, 2015 9:14:03 GMT -5
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Post by htguy on Mar 29, 2015 9:47:35 GMT -5
Hi thompson12,
Definitely differences in mic's. Do you have any treatments in your room? If yes what treatments? Would you consider your room lively or dead in regards to room treatments?
Is your room sealed or open to other parts of house?
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Post by thompson12 on Mar 29, 2015 10:55:27 GMT -5
Hi thompson12, Definitely differences in mic's. Do you have any treatments in your room? If yes what treatments? Would you consider your room lively or dead in regards to room treatments? Is your room sealed or open to other parts of house? Yes DIY treatments somewhat dead, open on one side going in to the kitchen, windows on the other side, I'll try and get some pics up Mitch |
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Post by rocky500 on Mar 29, 2015 12:22:11 GMT -5
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Post by socketman on Mar 29, 2015 13:05:40 GMT -5
Are all your graphs in the same order in each post. If so, the Umik graphs look like they came from a different room . That is crazy, I may have to buy dirac full now. DAMN YOU |
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Post by socketman on Mar 29, 2015 13:14:17 GMT -5
Mitch is this the EMo cal file that comes with Dirac Full. |
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I find 3 or 4 measurements give a pretty good pattern. You can make 1 run and go straight to the results.
