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Post by danr on Feb 26, 2015 13:39:56 GMT -5
Big Dan...any preliminary idea how many RUs the XMR will be? It's gonna fit in my cabinet, right? And will also sport XPR aesthetics, right?
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Post by wizardofoz on Feb 26, 2015 13:56:16 GMT -5
1RU amps...that smells like class d? That will reduce shipping costs too so that a great thing.
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Post by LuisV on Feb 26, 2015 14:36:25 GMT -5
Let me clear up a couple of things... The XMR will be our top of the line unit for the moment. We have changed the line strategy a bit. The anticipated MSRP of the XMR-1 will be right at $5k. Remember, it's closet competitor is $20k. This is a very expensive product from a BOM and development standpoint. At $5k it's a bargain. The new 7.1 processor is the backbone of a new line of affordable products that will replace Ultra Series. BTW, it's 1RU tall and all of the new amplifiers are 1RU too!! This is going to be a great new line. We've re-thought pretty much everything. All made in Franklin TN USA! See, we've been busy!! It's a double edge sword for sure Dan... say nothing and folks complain, say something and miss a date and it's the end of the world. Maybe showing a glimpse of whats on the horizon as an R &D type product with no commitment might work better, but it's definitely a fine line. Looking forward to hearing what else is in on the horizon...
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Post by hifiaudio2 on Feb 26, 2015 14:37:01 GMT -5
Speakers using the Beyma TPH-150 AMT unit from 1800hz and up please!!!
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Post by mdoug32 on Feb 26, 2015 14:58:58 GMT -5
Let me clear up a couple of things... The XMR will be our top of the line unit for the moment. We have changed the line strategy a bit. The anticipated MSRP of the XMR-1 will be right at $5k. Remember, it's closet competitor is $20k. This is a very expensive product from a BOM and development standpoint. At $5k it's a bargain. The new 7.1 processor is the backbone of a new line of affordable products that will replace Ultra Series. BTW, it's 1RU tall and all of the new amplifiers are 1RU too!! This is going to be a great new line. We've re-thought pretty much everything. All made in Franklin TN USA! See, we've been busy!! SO glad i held on to my 40% off card! by the time I recover from my new speaker purchase I can finish my system off with the XMR-! and be done!! Maybe
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Post by Bonzo on Feb 26, 2015 15:06:08 GMT -5
Big Dan...any preliminary idea how many RUs the XMR will be? It's gonna fit in my cabinet, right? And will also sport XPR aesthetics, right? +1. Same question here. I've got room, but just curious.
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Post by bootman on Feb 26, 2015 15:12:12 GMT -5
We have a 16 channel Atmos enabled unit in development and it will be the new XMR-1. It will have a new T.I. 800 Series six core processing engine with enough power to handle Atmos, DTS-X, and whatever else is thrown at us. It is completely balanced on ALL channels and will go head to head with ANY processor on the market today, or tomorrow. So how is Lonnie coming along with that 16ch fully balanced 12RU high 500lb amp to go with it? Seriously, this is great news. ...and I'm actually excited about the 1RU amps. My old back can't take lugging XPRs for much longer.
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Post by socketman on Feb 26, 2015 15:27:29 GMT -5
Let me clear up a couple of things... The XMR will be our top of the line unit for the moment. We have changed the line strategy a bit. The anticipated MSRP of the XMR-1 will be right at $5k. Remember, it's closet competitor is $20k. This is a very expensive product from a BOM and development standpoint. At $5k it's a bargain. The new 7.1 processor is the backbone of a new line of affordable products that will replace Ultra Series. BTW, it's 1RU tall and all of the new amplifiers are 1RU too!! This is going to be a great new line. We've re-thought pretty much everything. All made in Franklin TN USA! See, we've been busy!! It's a double edge sword for sure Dan... say nothing and folks complain, say something and miss a date and it's the end of the world. Maybe showing a glimpse of whats on the horizon as an R &D type product with no commitment might work better, but it's definitely a fine line. Looking forward to hearing what else is in on the horizon... I think things will roll out a lot smother now that the manufacturing is in place, they have built business relations with suppliers and they have the staff and plenty of Dirac experience behind them. The next learning curve will bill Atmos and DSX but I doubt that will trouble these guys much. Hopefully the past years leading up to the XMC-1 are about to pay dividends for Emotiva. Great things ahead and I don't think we need any dates this time since the XMC-1 is so fantastic. Richard
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Post by rogersch on Feb 26, 2015 15:29:07 GMT -5
The anticipated MSRP of the XMR-1 will be right at $5k. Remember, it's closet competitor is $20k. This is a very expensive product from a BOM and development standpoint. At $5k it's a bargain. Yes indeed when the XMR-1 will become commercially available the competitors can put their $20k processors in their closet.
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Post by brutiarti on Feb 26, 2015 15:32:38 GMT -5
Big Dan, please don't forget the 2-ch people here. An XSP-1 + DC-1 DAC + DIRAC all in one would be a killer for us.
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Post by bootman on Feb 26, 2015 15:39:05 GMT -5
Big Dan, please don't forget the 2-ch people here. An XSP-1 + DC-1 DAC + DIRAC all in one would be a killer for us. Integrated with 2 ch of XPR class amplification and HT passthrough, hell yes.
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Post by jlamo on Feb 26, 2015 16:13:04 GMT -5
+1 for a integrated with ht bypass .
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Feb 26, 2015 16:20:13 GMT -5
So if there is still only one Dirac preset, would it be possible to save the Dirac profile to REW and then upload that to one of the other presets and then Run a second Dirac to leave on the Dirac preset? Or is Dirac just way more complicated than the other presets can handle?
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Post by bootman on Feb 26, 2015 16:33:58 GMT -5
So if there is still only one Dirac preset, would it be possible to save the Dirac profile to REW and then upload that to one of the other presets and then Run a second Dirac to leave on the Dirac preset? Or is Dirac just way more complicated than the other presets can handle? Cheers Mark Excellent point! Given how flexible the XMC will be now, three presets are not enough. Does the platform have enough capacity to allow for more preset memory slots?
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Post by KeithL on Feb 26, 2015 16:40:22 GMT -5
The information REW uses is basically a set of settings for a standard parametric equalizer (you could type them manually into any parametric EQ with enough bands). The update makes this process a lot easier by allowing you to save all the settings as a set of files, and then read them all into the XMC-1 in one go. (Which eliminates a lot of typing, and a lot of opportunities to make typos.) You can also save the current PEQ settings from the XMC-1 as files, and you can read and edit the files directly (if you speak XML). Dirac's correction filters are entirely different; you could think of them as "custom prefabricated filter modules" rather than simply as settings you can punch into a standard parametric EQ. They are handled entirely differently by the XMC-1 (Speaker Preset 1 and Speaker Preset 2 use and store PEQ settings; the Dirac Speaker Preset uses Dirac Live Correction Filters, which are handled by the Dirac engine in the XMC-1). They aren't interchangeable; Dirac cannot read REW PEQ configurations; and REW can't read or modify Dirac Live Correction Filters. (They go into two entirely different kinds of preset slots.) So if there is still only one Dirac preset, would it be possible to save the Dirac profile to REW and then upload that to one of the other presets and then Run a second Dirac to leave on the Dirac preset? Or is Dirac just way more complicated than the other presets can handle? Cheers Mark
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Post by KeithL on Feb 26, 2015 16:41:37 GMT -5
The Full version of Dirac Live includes the ability to adjust the test tone levels individually for each speaker - which should help with the huge difference in speaker sensitivity. With the Full version you can also use whatever microphone you like, AND adjust the Target Curve to get just what you want. Awesome news. This addresses my biggest issues with the current Dirac implementation: (By the way, the sound improvement over my previous Pioneer SC-07 is HUGE even without Dirac). 1) My MIC shows all speakers with a significant dip at 10KHz to 18KHz. My tests with REW/UMIK-1 show almost flat (1/12 smoothing) response from my mains. I should send my MIC back, but I will probably just wait to use my UMIK with Full Dirac. 2) I have an almost 15dB difference in sensitivity between my speakers. I think this significantly affected my Dirac measurements as I had to lower greatly to avoid clipping for the most sensitive and the lowest sensitivity speakers were very quiet during measurement,
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Post by aughrimfurey on Feb 26, 2015 16:48:33 GMT -5
Regarding the HDMI 2.0 upgrade board for the XMC-1 - will this new board become the standard board in future XMC-1's (once it's ready), or will it always be an "upgrade"?
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Post by usxplong on Feb 26, 2015 17:26:11 GMT -5
The Full version of Dirac Live includes the ability to adjust the test tone levels individually for each speaker - which should help with the huge difference in speaker sensitivity. With the Full version you can also use whatever microphone you like, AND adjust the Target Curve to get just what you want. Awesome news. This addresses my biggest issues with the current Dirac implementation: (By the way, the sound improvement over my previous Pioneer SC-07 is HUGE even without Dirac). 1) My MIC shows all speakers with a significant dip at 10KHz to 18KHz. My tests with REW/UMIK-1 show almost flat (1/12 smoothing) response from my mains. I should send my MIC back, but I will probably just wait to use my UMIK with Full Dirac. 2) I have an almost 15dB difference in sensitivity between my speakers. I think this significantly affected my Dirac measurements as I had to lower greatly to avoid clipping for the most sensitive and the lowest sensitivity speakers were very quiet during measurement, Keith, Any time frame for Dirac full version?
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 26, 2015 17:29:24 GMT -5
Looking forward to the HDMI upgrade and 4K in a couple years if it is an improvement worth the money. Whether it is an improvement and worth the money or not, it's coming and you won't be able to play 4K Ultra HD content without HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. I too question this, as HDMI/HDCP has been so user friendly, not!!!
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 26, 2015 17:47:25 GMT -5
Any time frame for Dirac full version? Read the first post in this thread. Big Dan has answered your question there.
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