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Post by brand on May 19, 2015 23:05:09 GMT -5
Hehe gotta go with Lsc on this one Nick. At least the word troll is not appropriate, it gets thrown around too quickly these days. "The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue" which he didn't but of course I understand what you're getting at.  |
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Post by novisnick on May 19, 2015 23:07:28 GMT -5
I must be checking in when there is chatter about the buzz only, I'll reskim what I've obviously missed, oH my friend, I haven't been mocking, it's such a higher art form then what I've done! 8)
This was playful fun and games, hope you did go back and read that edited post.
I'm glad it has evolved, I guess it just took longer then the interest I showed it.
I'm glad your looking for solutions to this and are looking for other alternatives, it's the only way you could/would be truly happy. And that is the bottom line.
Looking forward to your future reviews, same room and gear does make a huge difference. The room is one of the biggest factors for sure.
Keep swinging my friend. The MONOBLOCKS really are worth a look ( listen ) at though. Price point isn't bad and the dynamics power and speaker control is just amazing!
Nick
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Post by novisnick on May 19, 2015 23:28:32 GMT -5
Hehe gotta go with Lsc on this one Nick. At least the word troll is not appropriate, it gets thrown around too quickly these days. "The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue" which he didn't but of course I understand what you're getting at. You are correct my friend, troll may be strong language but it's what I felt at the time. isnt this brave new world about feelings and not words?  |
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Post by stanlee on May 20, 2015 0:26:40 GMT -5
I thought the thread was going well. stanlee bought the xpr-5...hardly would call him a troll. But when comparing amps and one is integrated, it's important that the xpr-5 has an equally excellent preamp. My F208 never sounded as good the demo at the store and this is with the Xpr-5 until I got the XMC-1. With a lesser preamp the McIntosh will sound way better but the credit may fall to the preamp vs the power amp. Isc Good point. If when compared side by side with all else being equal, and the XPR does sound better than the mac, I will shout it from the top of the mountain. In fact, I hope it does cos that'll save me Shyte loads of cash!!! |
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Post by stanlee on May 20, 2015 2:36:16 GMT -5
Like I've said before, I think the XPR 5 is a perfectly suited and awesome multi channel amp. Perhaps even better than the 7 channel 200 wpc Mcintosh MC8207.
But as a stereo amp for 2 channel audio, I feel I could do more for the 803D's. Perhaps even the XPR 2 but the downfall is I can't audition it before deciding unless someone on here who owns the XPR 2 lives near me in the Los Angeles area :-)
There's also the limited space issue when it comes to adding another amp for just my mains. An awesome sounding integrated would be my best bet.
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Post by geebo on May 20, 2015 6:59:42 GMT -5
I've listened to the MA8000 powering the same speakers I have. It's phenomenal. Dead quiet and it does more than just driving, it also has a sweet DAC etc etc.... I can hear a huge difference between the mac and the XPR. Some people don't and I respect that but I do. Too bad it's $10k and not $5k or less....or else I'd be listening to it right now as we speak :-) But I estimate an ETA of 12 to 18 months before I get my hands on that baby. Still overpriced even at 5k... |
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Post by stanlee on May 24, 2015 4:14:44 GMT -5
Gotta admit, my xpr 5 and 803d combo is sounding better and better everyday....even the hiss and buzz is sounding sweeter and quieter :-)) youtu.be/OrL2a2iONqA |
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Post by garbulky on May 24, 2015 11:52:35 GMT -5
Gotta admit, my xpr 5 and 803d combo is sounding better and better everyday....even the hiss and buzz is sounding sweeter and quieter :-)) youtu.be/OrL2a2iONqAVery fun video. Thank you for sharing. If you don't mind me suggesting....and I do so because you were worried about the smaller details which suggests to me that you care a lot about audio....experiment more with your placement. I think pulling those speakers forward and toeing them in less, even if it means bringing them closer together....would yield a better soundstage. Right now right against the walls behind the plane of the rack blocks the sound from getting to you and increases boominess. |
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Post by vneal on May 24, 2015 12:05:12 GMT -5
ditto
pull the 803s out AT LEAST 3 feet
or any speaker for that matter
toe in less
they will sound better
even a rug out front
no charge
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Post by pedrocols on May 24, 2015 12:49:46 GMT -5
I've listened to the MA8000 powering the same speakers I have. It's phenomenal. Dead quiet and it does more than just driving, it also has a sweet DAC etc etc.... I can hear a huge difference between the mac and the XPR. Some people don't and I respect that but I do. Too bad it's $10k and not $5k or less....or else I'd be listening to it right now as we speak :-) But I estimate an ETA of 12 to 18 months before I get my hands on that baby. Still overpriced even at 5k... He does likes it better so it seems to me he is not concern about the price. The MA8000 will potentially last him a lifetime so "overprice even at 5K?" Please allow me to politely disagree. |
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Post by geebo on May 24, 2015 13:01:31 GMT -5
Still overpriced even at 5k... He does likes it better so it seems to me he is not concern about the price. The MA8000 will potentially last him a lifetime so "overprice even at 5K?" Please allow me to politely disagree. You may certainly disagree all you want. So can I. Overpriced at 5K is my opinion. If someone pays $100 for an apple it may be worth it to them but it doesn't mean it's worth it. |
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Post by pedrocols on May 24, 2015 13:22:29 GMT -5
He does likes it better so it seems to me he is not concern about the price. The MA8000 will potentially last him a lifetime so "overprice even at 5K?" Please allow me to politely disagree. You may certainly disagree all you want. So can I. Overpriced at 5K is my opinion. If someone pays $100 for an apple it may be worth it to them but it doesn't mean it's worth it. Thinking is overpriced at 5k for a product sell through dealers from a company with 50 plus years of excellent reputation it seems silly to me. Let's wait until Emotiva is in business for 50 plus years and have this conversation again. How much you think the XPR-5 will cost if it was sold through dealers with the huge mark ups? Yes I still disagree! |
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Post by guzz46 on May 24, 2015 13:23:03 GMT -5
ditto pull the 803s out AT LEAST 3 feet or any speaker for that matter toe in less they will sound better even a rug out front no charge Hmmm, I just recently pushed my speakers closer to the wall, from 35cm down to 26cm, I also moved my chair 9cm closer to retain the same listening distance and toe-in, and its reinforced the bass, I've got more bass impact without any boom, the mid-range and treble remain unchanged, I'm assuming its because my speakers are sealed, because my previous Jamo C809's were rear ported and needed a certain distance from the wall (particularly the corners) to prevent any boom. |
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Post by geebo on May 24, 2015 13:32:37 GMT -5
You may certainly disagree all you want. So can I. Overpriced at 5K is my opinion. If someone pays $100 for an apple it may be worth it to them but it doesn't mean it's worth it. Thinking is overpriced at 5k for a product sell through dealers from a company with 50 plus years of excellent reputation it seems silly to me. Let's wait until Emotiva is in business for 50 plus years and have this conversation again. How much you think the XPR-5 will cost if it was sold through dealers with the huge mark ups? Yes I still disagree! That's totally cool that you disagree. I still think it's overpriced at 5k let alone 10k. Even if you think it's silly. |
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Post by pedrocols on May 24, 2015 13:38:32 GMT -5
Thinking is overpriced at 5k for a product sell through dealers from a company with 50 plus years of excellent reputation it seems silly to me. Let's wait until Emotiva is in business for 50 plus years and have this conversation again. How much you think the XPR-5 will cost if it was sold through dealers with the huge mark ups? Yes I still disagree! That's totally cool that you disagree. I still think it's overpriced at 5k let alone 10k. Even if you think it's silly. Yes overpriced and 100% USA developed, researched and manufactured. Yes it is silly and also irrational. |
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Post by geebo on May 24, 2015 13:40:53 GMT -5
That's totally cool that you disagree. I still think it's overpriced at 5k let alone 10k. Even if you think it's silly. Yes overpriced and 100% USA developed, research and manufactured. Yes it is silly. ...and still overpriced at 5k. |
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Post by pedrocols on May 24, 2015 13:42:50 GMT -5
Yes overpriced and 100% USA developed, research and manufactured. Yes it is silly. ...and still overpriced at 5k. ...and still silly and irrational. |
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Post by geebo on May 24, 2015 13:46:55 GMT -5
...and still overpriced at 5k. ...and still silly and irrational. And you forgot overpriced at 5k. |
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Post by pedrocols on May 24, 2015 13:51:19 GMT -5
...and still silly and irrational. And you forgot overpriced at 5k. Irrational: not logical or reasonable, an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency. |
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Post by geebo on May 24, 2015 14:00:38 GMT -5
And you forgot overpriced at 5k. Irrational: not logical or reasonable, an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency. Kinda like paying $100 for an apple? It's still overpriced at 5k. |
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