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Post by brubacca on Jun 5, 2015 17:34:23 GMT -5
Got this from the e-proved section of the website today:
The Confidence of E-Proved
Now, you can buy Music Hall turntables right here on our site—and, based on our own experience, we know you’ll be happy with them! Soon, there will be more e-Proved products to choose from—stay tuned!
Guess this makes the death of the Emotiva Turntable official
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 5, 2015 17:59:11 GMT -5
Makes good business sense IMO. Why reinvent the wheel when someone is already making a better one? Pretty much what Dan said when asked about a Blu Ray player - Dan mentioned Oppo. I'm still waiting for the official 'e-nnouncement' about a speaker line or two that they will e-prove of. Thus comes another unofficial announcement of something dropped. Not that I mind - I like what I have ATM. Can't see that changing any time soon.
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Post by repeetavx on Jun 5, 2015 18:26:57 GMT -5
Ok now, wait.
Is this not what the E-Proved page from the Emotiva website says:
Now, you can buy Music Hall turntables right here on our site
Now? So I looked.
Under Amplifiers. Nope, not turntables there.
Under Pres and Pros. Nope
Under all of the other catagories including "Sources", where I would expect to find something like a turntable. But, nope.
So I'm hoping that soon we'll either be able to be linked to, or shop for Music Hall Turntables.Ok, must of been between the web page uploades. |
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Post by bub on Jun 5, 2015 18:33:51 GMT -5
I just left product page. Summer sale is on. TT under e-proved
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Post by LuisV on Jun 5, 2015 18:45:06 GMT -5
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Post by bub on Jun 5, 2015 18:48:40 GMT -5
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 5, 2015 18:58:16 GMT -5
$4,500 bucks for a rinky-dink rubber band spinning a cheap acrylic platter??? (raspberry)   Not for me, thanks... |
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Post by brubacca on Jun 5, 2015 19:14:58 GMT -5
Music Hall is the North American Distributor for Epos Loudspeakers. I wonder if they would go this way.
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Post by jackpine on Jun 5, 2015 19:28:40 GMT -5
Music Hall tables are made by Pro-Ject. The Emo prices are standard internet prices. 10% sale plus 10% Eclub is a pretty good deal.
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Post by vcautokid on Jun 6, 2015 0:12:34 GMT -5
Makes total sense. I sold Music Hall for a few years, and Roy Hall has some fun, and cool products. I think you'll like these Turntables. I sold allot of them. From the flagship, to the very affordable ones. Everyone loved them.  I think it is a brilliant move, and glad Emotiva will have a great Turntable in the Emotiva family! |
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Post by pedrocols on Jun 6, 2015 2:17:09 GMT -5
So is this a $8,000 TT for $4,500? Or is it a $4,500 TT for $4,500?
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Post by brubacca on Jun 6, 2015 6:32:11 GMT -5
It is a $4500 table for $4500. At a quick glance Emotiva Prices are the same as other online merchants. This makes sense, Emotiva becomes your dealer.
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Post by vneal on Jun 6, 2015 7:24:08 GMT -5
Music Hall tables are made by Pro-Ject. The Emo prices are standard internet prices. 10% sale plus 10% Eclub is a pretty good deal. You are partially right. Pro-Ject makes arms and platters for Music Hall in their Czech Republic based audio factory. There are two dozen fine turntables to choose from. Pro-Ject is distributed by Sumiko and packages cartridges with turntables usually 25% on what the cartridge would cost you separate |
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Post by trinhsman on Jun 6, 2015 7:39:23 GMT -5
I understand what they are doing, but somewhat sad to see it happen. It is a business deal, plain and simple. I own a 9.1 table, with Ortofon 2M Black cartridge. Amazing table. When I started with Emo, they were going down the audio side of things. As more time goes by, I see them going the home theater route. While I understand this, it is not the direction I am on. I am still a plain and simple 2 channel guy. I have recently switched out my 2 year old XPA-2 for a Pass Labs X-150 amp that I found used and for a very good price. The Pass is blowing away the Emo amp. Of course it should when you consider what both cost new. For me, I would like to see Emo concentrate on higher quality sound of amplifiers, to compete with the best of the best, at Emo prices. This may not be possible, and I am also sure it is not good business sense. Now, for middle class set ups, Emo has the best of products out there, plain and simple. But for me, and this is just my own personal taste, I would have like to see them concentrate more on the audio side of things, instead of the home theater route. Just my 2 cents, and I know from a business stand point is not the way to make the most money.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jun 6, 2015 10:01:23 GMT -5
Just a note here....
Emotiva is investing resources in both HT and two channel development. There are many new products in the pipeline that you are not aware of yet. Many of them two channel and capable of very high performance. And of course, they are affordable.
We make a broad line of stereo and mono-block amplifiers suitable for serious two channel listening, and our XSP-1 is a remarkable stereo preamp. We'v got great DAC's, with more coming, for all types of users. Our XMC-1 is probably the most seriously "two channel" focused AVP on the market.
I think you're not seeing things the way we do. We're moving forward, not backwards. The classic two-channel audiophile listening experience is a part of, but not the only way to experience audio bliss. We're investing in all areas of interest to the serious music and cinema devote.
Cheers,
Big Dan
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Post by vcautokid on Jun 6, 2015 10:29:07 GMT -5
I think that is great. With so many ways to listen and see your entertainment today, and fun things coming tomorrow, a bit later than that, there are no limits, but that of your imagination. A few years back I would have never taken my computer for serious audio music like my CD player and Turntable etc. But now they all co exist in a great flexible eco system that is my entertainment. While immersed in that great movie, and all, to compiling my next favorite playlist, Emotiva is there for all that I need. There is always something for everyone. What's more fun than that?
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Post by novisnick on Jun 6, 2015 10:46:33 GMT -5
Just a note here.... Emotiva is investing resources in both HT and two channel development. There are many new products in the pipeline that you are not aware of yet. Many of them two channel and capable of very high performance. And of course, they are affordable. We make a broad line of stereo and mono-block amplifiers suitable for serious two channel listening, and our XSP-1 is a remarkable stereo preamp. We'v got great DAC's, with more coming, for all types of users. Our XMC-1 is probably the most seriously "two channel" focused AVP on the market. I think you're not seeing things the way we do. We're moving forward, not backwards. The classic two-channel audiophile listening experience is a part of, but not the only way to experience audio bliss. We're investing in all areas of interest to the serious music and cinema devote. Cheers, Big Dan  |
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Post by qdtjni on Jun 6, 2015 11:23:05 GMT -5
Music Hall tables are made by Pro-Ject. The Emo prices are standard internet prices. 10% sale plus 10% Eclub is a pretty good deal. You are partially right. Pro-Ject makes arms and platters for Music Hall in their Czech Republic based audio factory. There are two dozen fine turntables to choose from. Pro-Ject is distributed by Sumiko and packages cartridges with turntables usually 25% on what the cartridge would cost you separate Looks like motors on some of the models are from Pro-Ject too, right? |
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Post by jackpine on Jun 6, 2015 12:59:26 GMT -5
Here's what Fremer said last year.
By Michael Fremer • Posted: Jul 4, 2014 • Published: Jul 3, 2014
It’s no secret that Pro-Ject builds Music Hall turntables to Music Hall’s specifications and design parameters using mostly “off the Pro-Ject shelf” mechanical components. Before getting to the 11.1, perhaps you are wondering why Pro-Ject would want to compete with itself.
The relationship between Pro-Ject’s Heinz Lichtenegger and Music Hall’s Roy Hall began back in the 1990s at the “dawn” of the vinyl revival. For Czech-based Pro-Ject at the time, the more turntables manufactured at the Pro-Ject factory the better the company’s bottom line. For Music Hall it meant partnering with a precision manufacturer capable of delivering a ready-to-play turntable built to spec. Pro-Ject manufactures everything in-house down to the screws, nuts and bolts.
The relationship still works for both parties as much of Music Hall’s line sells where Pro-Ject does not, so most every Music Hall sold is another turntable manufactured at the Pro-Ject factory that wouldn’t otherwise have been. Plus the two must find pleasant doing business with each other.
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Post by pedrocols on Jun 6, 2015 13:27:26 GMT -5
It is a $4500 table for $4500. At a quick glance Emotiva Prices are the same as other online merchants. This makes sense, Emotiva becomes your dealer. Agreed. |
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