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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 5, 2015 18:55:47 GMT -5
Hold off if you can.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 5, 2015 19:03:25 GMT -5
So am I, but I never received the membership card. I think it must have fallen out of the airplane someplace above the Atlantic Ocean.  Hang out at the beach ... I'm sure it'll wash up.  |
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Post by skippy1977 on Nov 5, 2015 19:54:01 GMT -5
However, I also believe original UMC-1 owners qualify for UFL, which would give you the XMC-1 at 25% off of retail or about $1875, and you'd still have your card. Cards seem to be going for $400+ in the emporium, so you could possibly beat the $1500 price by a bit. If and when the XMR-1 comes out the card might appreciate more. Just to clarify... the "Upgrade for Life" program replaced the 40% Upgrade Card program and began with the purchasers of the UMC-200. If you used your upgrade card to purchase the UMC-200 (or purchased the UMC-200 at the "selling" price), you were automatically enrolled in the UFL program after the 30 day trial window closed. If you purchased the UMC-1, and did not upgrade, you are not an Upgrade for Life member and not entitled to the 25% discount. Unfortunately, the UFL program is also now "closed" to new purchasers. I bought a UMC-1 and was able to use the UFL program to buy two XMC-1s for $1499 when the price for the XMC-1 was $1999. So it definitely works if one purchased the UMC-1 or any previous Emotiva processor. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 5, 2015 22:00:56 GMT -5
dkaudioThe XMC is a fine beast. Given you have UFL AND a 40% off card, here is a thought... If you bought at full price less the UFL or 40%, you are looking at either $1874 or $1499. And, you have a UMC-1 you can sell (pocket $300?). Alternatively, some think the $1999 sale price might be the new price even after the sale...maybe it will be, maybe not...maybe it will go up. If it goes down, you are in no worse of a position than now. It it goes up...? Another option is to use UFL for an XMC and either sell the 40% off card now or hold out for a higher price once the XMR comes out. For this to be worth it, you have to sell the card for more than $375. If the XMR comes out at the expected price, I think that is a strong possibility. Lots of options... Mark
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Post by dkaudio on Nov 19, 2015 10:48:22 GMT -5
dkaudioThe XMC is a fine beast. Given you have UFL AND a 40% off card, here is a thought... If you bought at full price less the UFL or 40%, you are looking at either $1874 or $1499. And, you have a UMC-1 you can sell (pocket $300?). Alternatively, some think the $1999 sale price might be the new price even after the sale...maybe it will be, maybe not...maybe it will go up. If it goes down, you are in no worse of a position than now. It it goes up...? Another option is to use UFL for an XMC and either sell the 40% off card now or hold out for a higher price once the XMR comes out. For this to be worth it, you have to sell the card for more than $375. If the XMR comes out at the expected price, I think that is a strong possibility. Lots of options... Mark Thought I'd see if there were any new replies and wow, there are, haha. I bought the UMC-1 towards the end of its life, I've probably had it for 4 years though so hopefully I am in UFL, sounds like I should be. Maybe I'll see what happens after the sale, if it stays at $1,999 then using UFL it would be $1,500, sell the UMC-1 for $300 and it would be $1,200 and I'd still have my 40% card (I can only hope and wish this plays out, right?) Every time I think about owning the XMC I get giddy, I have been patient quite a while, I can last a little longer |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Nov 19, 2015 11:30:36 GMT -5
I believe the UFL price is off of full list, not the sale price, that's how geebo got $1874 as the UFL price.
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Post by geebo on Nov 19, 2015 12:04:34 GMT -5
dkaudioThe XMC is a fine beast. Given you have UFL AND a 40% off card, here is a thought... If you bought at full price less the UFL or 40%, you are looking at either $1874 or $1499. And, you have a UMC-1 you can sell (pocket $300?). Alternatively, some think the $1999 sale price might be the new price even after the sale...maybe it will be, maybe not...maybe it will go up. If it goes down, you are in no worse of a position than now. It it goes up...? Another option is to use UFL for an XMC and either sell the 40% off card now or hold out for a higher price once the XMR comes out. For this to be worth it, you have to sell the card for more than $375. If the XMR comes out at the expected price, I think that is a strong possibility. Lots of options... Mark Thought I'd see if there were any new replies and wow, there are, haha. I bought the UMC-1 towards the end of its life, I've probably had it for 4 years though so hopefully I am in UFL, sounds like I should be. Maybe I'll see what happens after the sale, if it stays at $1,999 then using UFL it would be $1,500, sell the UMC-1 for $300 and it would be $1,200 and I'd still have my 40% card (I can only hope and wish this plays out, right?) Every time I think about owning the XMC I get giddy, I have been patient quite a while, I can last a little longer That would be nice but as ElTwo said, the Updrade for Life is 25% from full current list so $1,874 is what you'd pay. |
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 19, 2015 12:10:14 GMT -5
Still confused.
I bought a UMC-200 so I get 25% off my next processor purchase or some other discount?
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Post by cheapthryl on Nov 19, 2015 12:22:36 GMT -5
Still confused. I bought a UMC-200 so I get 25% off my next processor purchase or some other discount? Your purchase of the UMC 200 (if before April 30) qualify's for 25% off (retail) for life on any new processor |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 19, 2015 12:40:49 GMT -5
dkaudioThe XMC is a fine beast. Given you have UFL AND a 40% off card, here is a thought... If you bought at full price less the UFL or 40%, you are looking at either $1874 or $1499. And, you have a UMC-1 you can sell (pocket $300?). Alternatively, some think the $1999 sale price might be the new price even after the sale...maybe it will be, maybe not...maybe it will go up. If it goes down, you are in no worse of a position than now. It it goes up...? Another option is to use UFL for an XMC and either sell the 40% off card now or hold out for a higher price once the XMR comes out. For this to be worth it, you have to sell the card for more than $375. If the XMR comes out at the expected price, I think that is a strong possibility. Lots of options... Mark Thought I'd see if there were any new replies and wow, there are, haha. I bought the UMC-1 towards the end of its life, I've probably had it for 4 years though so hopefully I am in UFL, sounds like I should be. Maybe I'll see what happens after the sale, if it stays at $1,999 then using UFL it would be $1,500, sell the UMC-1 for $300 and it would be $1,200 and I'd still have my 40% card (I can only hope and wish this plays out, right?) Every time I think about owning the XMC I get giddy, I have been patient quite a while, I can last a little longer UFL or the 40% Card will be the cheapest it get's, even if it remains on 'permanent' sale the discount will be on 'Retail'. The UMC-200 was like this, $699 list but on permanent sale for $599 - the discount was on $699. Potentially the price could go up and UFL/Discount prices would be higher. IMO if you want it, it's not going to get any less expensive, unless you buy used. If you want to drag your heels though, then you can wonder if they'll include the HDMI/HDCP card in the base unit for the $2500 price (when the rest of us will have to pay $XXX for the upgrade. Maybe though they'll raise the price with the upgrade? (I'd be surprised, but not impossible) Lot's to worry about if you're trying to get the best deal, but then you don't get to listen to it. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 19, 2015 18:26:53 GMT -5
ÈlTwo and geeboI believe what he is saying is that if, after the sale, the XMC-1 stays at $1999...he would get it for 25% off $1999. Which is true, but I doubt it will stay at $1999 after the sale. dkaudio you should indeed be in UFL if you bought a UMC-1 new from Emotiva. You can call then to check. Mark
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Post by geebo on Nov 19, 2015 18:28:59 GMT -5
ÈlTwo and geeboI believe what he is saying is that if, after the sale, the XMC-1 stays at $1999...he would get it for 25% off $1999. Which is true, but I doubt it will stay at $1999 after the sale. Mark I see what you mean but I'll bet that it won't stay at $1,999. |
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Post by etc6849 on Nov 19, 2015 19:35:27 GMT -5
I just picked up a used XMC-1 (much cheaper than what one would cost with any coupons). I know they don't come up that often, but buying a used one that someone previously bought at $1499 (with the 25% off at the old price) means they will be willing to deal. The warranty is transferable too, so there's not much risk if you buy from a paypal verified seller and ensure they send you a real paypal invoice so your purchase is protected by paypal.
Then I'd sell the 40% off card when the XMR-1 comes out. I highly doubt it will sound any better than the XMC-1 if just running 7.2. I know there's a lot of discussions about object oriented sound and atmos, but all the atmos blu-rays I've tried have decent core 7.1 TrueHD mixes. It's much more important to add bass traps, tame your impulse response, etc... than to add even more speakers.
I think you have the right idea. The expense of me ever upgrading to atmos far out weighs the 5% of a movie when the ceiling speakers could actually make things sound more real.
The sound I'm getting in my well treated room is some of the best I've heard; I'd put it up against an atmos system any day.
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Post by LCSeminole on Nov 19, 2015 19:48:56 GMT -5
ÈlTwo and geeboI believe what he is saying is that if, after the sale, the XMC-1 stays at $1999...he would get it for 25% off $1999. Which is true, but I doubt it will stay at $1999 after the sale. dkaudio you should indeed be in UFL if you bought a UMC-1 new from Emotiva. You can call then to check. Mark I'm with you, I don't see the regular price coming back down to $1999, especially with HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0 on the horizon. |
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Post by maestro2be on Nov 19, 2015 22:03:45 GMT -5
I just picked up a used XMC-1 (much cheaper than what one would cost with any coupons). I know they don't come up that often, but buying a used one that someone previously bought at $1499 (with the 25% off at the old price) means they will be willing to deal. The warranty is transferable too, so there's not much risk if you buy from a paypal verified seller and ensure they send you a real paypal invoice so your purchase is protected by paypal. Then I'd sell the 40% off card when the XMR-1 comes out. I highly doubt it will sound any better than the XMC-1 if just running 7.2. I know there's a lot of discussions about object oriented sound and atmos, but all the atmos blu-rays I've tried have decent core 7.1 TrueHD mixes. It's much more important to add bass traps, tame your impulse response, etc... than to add even more speakers. I think you have the right idea. The expense of me ever upgrading to atmos far out weighs the 5% of a movie when the ceiling speakers could actually make things sound more real. The sound I'm getting in my well treated room is some of the best I've heard; I'd put it up against an atmos system any day. Dan explained in his response a while ago that the XMR-1 will have a complete balanced circuitry from beginning to end. The convertors in that unit will/should absolutely sound better than the XMC-1 being fully balanced.
Additionally, even if you aren't into "atmos" right now, the fact that the XMR-1 will run Dirac Unison is another large advantage of it over the XMC-1 for me.
I myself am waiting with my 40% card for the day he starts accepting orders  .
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 20, 2015 0:34:16 GMT -5
ÈlTwo and geeboI believe what he is saying is that if, after the sale, the XMC-1 stays at $1999...he would get it for 25% off $1999. Which is true, but I doubt it will stay at $1999 after the sale. dkaudio you should indeed be in UFL if you bought a UMC-1 new from Emotiva. You can call then to check. Mark And my point was even if it stayed at $1999, it would be like the UMC-200 at $599, you still got the discount off of $699. With the XMC you'd still get the discount off of $2499. They made a big deal about buying the XMC-1 before May 1 if you wanted the $1999 "List" price, I used my UFL and kept my card getting it for $1499. I don't think we'll see that again, but I could be w ...... incorrect. |
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Post by dkaudio on Nov 20, 2015 14:55:09 GMT -5
Yes, my hoping was, as Mark wrote, if the new price will stay at $1,999 I understand the chance of UFL/40% being off the current $2,499 retail. With xmas coming up I need that to pass anyways. Thanks for the discussion guys.
BTW, I just listened to Wish You Were Here DVD-Audio 24/96 on my PS4 using my UMC-1 and XPA-5, wonder what it would sound like on the XMC?!
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Post by skippy1977 on Nov 20, 2015 18:50:10 GMT -5
Yes, my hoping was, as Mark wrote, if the new price will stay at $1,999 I understand the chance of UFL/40% being off the current $2,499 retail. With xmas coming up I need that to pass anyways. Thanks for the discussion guys. BTW, I just listened to Wish You Were Here DVD-Audio 24/96 on my PS4 using my UMC-1 and XPA-5, wonder what it would sound like on the XMC?! I didn't know that Sony players played DVD-Audio discs. I'd say the XMC-1 would be a nice improvement over the UMC-1 especially with Dirac. |
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Post by creimes on Nov 20, 2015 20:17:02 GMT -5
BTW, I just listened to Wish You Were Here DVD-Audio 24/96 on my PS4 using my UMC-1 and XPA-5, wonder what it would sound like on the XMC?! |
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Post by wizardofoz on Nov 21, 2015 7:57:23 GMT -5
actually if you buy an XMC-1 then I think you can get an extra one at 25% off but limit is 2 per owner...thats what I did...and I used a 40% off for my first one. I was also a UMC-1 owner too...so many permutations to factor in.
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