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Post by Axis on Jan 6, 2016 13:18:12 GMT -5
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 6, 2016 13:25:17 GMT -5
4K is so yesterday. HDR is where it's at! Wilbur, Not sure what you mean. HDR is basically an expansion of contrast and color, as opposed to the increase of pixel count in 4K. While I'm no expert on the newer video technologies I'm thinking HDR is an enhancement to 4K, so apples to oranges comparison I think. First, I think Wilbur was speaking a little tongue and cheek. Kind of like computer geeks saying some gadget has been around for like 2 months so therefor it's "old news." 4K was last years big hype. By next Christmas almost every TV on the market will be 4K. OLED and HDR will be the next big sales tools. Second, I don't want to derail this thread, but HDR will be more important to the vast population of TVs. 4K resolution itself only makes a difference on very large sets (or you are sitting inordinately close). Anything 65" and under and you just aren't going to see it due to limitations of the human eye. Between common household rooms, their possible seating orientations, and the WAF, most people are not going to just run out and buy 80-100 TV's overnight. On the other hand, HDR will improve TV's of any size, and will also be a more noticeable improvement to the PQ on all but the largest of TVs, and even then it will probably make more of a difference than resolution alone. It's a more important advance than 4K. The term 4K is a misnomer used to sell TV's, because the vast majority of consumers are ignorant to what it really means. When a sales person says "more resolution," whether it be on a 5" smart phone, a 10" tablet, or a 50" TV, the consumer instantly thinks "better." Only time will tell if the term HDR catches on to be something really important with "normal folks." |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 17:22:35 GMT -5
Does the new Epa-1 have DAC options that accept optical inputs or is it usb only?
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Post by vneal on Jan 6, 2016 21:38:57 GMT -5
Is it a Consumer Electronic Show or Auto Show? Boy has it changed
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Post by klinemj on Jan 6, 2016 21:48:38 GMT -5
Is it a Consumer Electronic Show or Auto Show? Boy has it changed Apparently, some folks want us to be more distracted as drivers. Mark |
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 0:23:47 GMT -5
The more I look into what's new in the Audio world the less I see. This is not meant to be critical of technology but I thought that it would bring more gear to market. The biggest thing I see is wireless speakers. Lots of small wireless speakers. I have been watching this trend and hoped to see larger sized Home Theater Surround systems go wireless. klipsch did not disappoint. www.klipsch.com/products/reference-premiere-hd-wirelessI think a small hub or small form factor black box Front-End with powered wireless speakers is just the ticket to get lots of people a nice Home Theater Surround systems. I know this does not include the hand full of folks that want an XMC and XPA. I see you as lucky. You have big powerful amps and speakers. Most folks wonder into BB and grap a box off the shelf that says HTIB. They put the so called sub in the corner to hide it. The little front center speakers that are not as large as my coffee cup go somewhere on the shelf in the general sort of area near the TV. The little surrounds end up being used by dad next to his tool box out in the carport. "Oh ! Those wireless speakers cannot sound like my wired speakers hooked to my 1000 watt amp" I hope Big Dan is working on this. A Front-End device in the small Emersa box. Main, Center, Sub and Surround powered wireless Airmotiv speakers. I would choose just having to plug my speakers into a wall outlet and select it's location on the back any day over multiple pieces of gear with interconnects and speaker wires all around the room. This is the technology that one company should provide the whole package. Easy to set up. Plug your HDMI and Ethernet cables into the black box, plug your speakers into the wall and select it's location. The black box automatically sets up everything and tells you it is done with a big smile on your display. The family watches a movie and the kids say " Wow that sounds good ! Mom, you are awesome. Great job setting up the Home Theater Surround systems Mom ! " |
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 3:44:02 GMT -5
Here are all the New products ! www.monoandstereo.com/Just most of them cost more than a New car. So no need for prices.  |
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 3:47:09 GMT -5
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Post by rhale64 on Jan 7, 2016 8:28:10 GMT -5
Wow did you folks read that article about MQA. It is going to be a game changer. Everything should have it.
I really hope Emotiva is going to take a preemptive approach to this.
It should definitely be implemented in the new processor. If not it may be considered just like the xmc1 was. Behind the times.
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 9:21:09 GMT -5
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 9:45:50 GMT -5
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 9:58:46 GMT -5
The Axiim Q is a sleek, high resolution wireless surround sound home entertainment system, shown for the first time at CES 2016. With six HDMI inputs, four USB inputs and remote apps for iOS and Android devices, the Axiim Q is designed to be the central hub for the consumer's home entertainment universe of HDTVs, Set-Top-Boxes, Blu-ray and DVD players, Game Consoles, A/V streamers, and more. axiim.com/products/q-wireless-home-theater-system-7-1-system |
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Post by KeithL on Jan 7, 2016 10:18:20 GMT -5
It looks..... very attractive..... and very convenient. However, considering that the speakers themselves are limited to 4" drivers, and they don't even mention things like amplifier power, it will be interesting to hear about how it SOUNDS. (I'm kind of guessing it will do very well with background music, not playing very loudly, but not so well with movies, which makes it seem sort of pricey to me  ). The Axiim Q is a sleek, high resolution wireless surround sound home entertainment system, shown for the first time at CES 2016. With six HDMI inputs, four USB inputs and remote apps for iOS and Android devices, the Axiim Q is designed to be the central hub for the consumer's home entertainment universe of HDTVs, Set-Top-Boxes, Blu-ray and DVD players, Game Consoles, A/V streamers, and more. axiim.com/products/q-wireless-home-theater-system-7-1-system |
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Post by KeithL on Jan 7, 2016 10:19:18 GMT -5
Then you'll definitely want to check out our new product lines  I will be looking for a 5.1 receiver or prepro/amp combo that is no more than 4" tall. Black with no big lights, knobs or buttons. Something to match my OPPO and Xfinity boxes stealth appearance. It needs to have at least 60 watts per channel for all channels. |
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 10:35:59 GMT -5
quote author=" KeithL" source="/post/788126/thread" timestamp="1452179900"]It looks..... very attractive..... and very convenient. However, considering that the speakers themselves are limited to 4" drivers, and they don't even mention things like amplifier power, it will be interesting to hear about how it SOUNDS. (I'm kind of guessing it will do very well with background music, not playing very loudly, but not so well with movies, which makes it seem sort of pricey to me ). The Axiim Q is a sleek, high resolution wireless surround sound home entertainment system, shown for the first time at CES 2016. With six HDMI inputs, four USB inputs and remote apps for iOS and Android devices, the Axiim Q is designed to be the central hub for the consumer's home entertainment universe of HDTVs, Set-Top-Boxes, Blu-ray and DVD players, Game Consoles, A/V streamers, and more. axiim.com/products/q-wireless-home-theater-system-7-1-system[/quote] Keith, I am just doing google searches for 'CES 2016 Audio' or 'CES 2016 Surround Sound'. These wireless Surround Speakers have 125 watts for the towers. www.klipsch.com/products/reference-premiere-hd-wireless?source=pepperjam&publisherId=43737&clickId=1506159307Wireless speakers is all I am finding for Home Theater sound. Everyone seems to have a Dolby Atmos Surround SoundBar. What Ever ! I do not see any new Dolby Atmos DTS X receivers being introduced at CES 2016. Keith, you guys get a good wireless system and Emotiva could mop the floor with powered speakers. Make a set of Stealth 8 speaker wireless surrounds ! |
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Post by Axis on Jan 7, 2016 10:40:26 GMT -5
Then you'll definitely want to check out our new product lines I will be looking for a 5.1 receiver or prepro/amp combo that is no more than 4" tall. Black with no big lights, knobs or buttons. Something to match my OPPO and Xfinity boxes stealth appearance. It needs to have at least 60 watts per channel for all channels. I would like to be the first customer to purchase the Emersa EMP-1, Emersa EDA-5, Airmotiv T1, Airmotiv C1, Airmotiv E1 and Airmotiv S10. Can you arrange that for me Keith ?  |
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Post by bootman on Jan 7, 2016 10:57:07 GMT -5
Wow did you folks read that article about MQA. It is going to be a game changer. Everything should have it. I really hope Emotiva is going to take a preemptive approach to this. It should definitely be implemented in the new processor. If not it may be considered just like the xmc1 was. Behind the times. Shouldn't that decoding belong on a source player and not a processor? |
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Post by rhale64 on Jan 7, 2016 11:40:51 GMT -5
I would think maybe both ends. I don't know. More reading in my near future.
I would think the processor would have to decode it. I don't know.
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Post by KeithL on Jan 7, 2016 12:03:59 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I stopped drinking Kool-Aid when they stopped selling it in little envelopes for 25 cents..... If you haven't actually read the technical fine print, MQA itself is a well thought out, high quality, LOSSY compression format. As usual, the developers insist that the parts that it discards are totally worthless, and that it does such a good job on the parts that it keeps that it ends up sounding better than even lossless files at currently popular bit rates. (I haven't heard it, but I trust Meridian to be able to deliver the technology they promise, so I have no reason to believe that it doesn't sound as good as they say - but the fact that it is LOSSY still makes me nervous.) However, since I don't actually hear any flaws inherent in 24/192k that could be improved upon, and I'm not even convinced that I can really hear a difference between optimally produced 24/96k and 24/192k files, I'm not convinced that MQA will be audibly better than the currently available lossless options. Now, I AM quite willing to take their word for it that it allows you to deliver an audio stream that sounds as good or better than 96k, yet takes up less bandwidth than a "regular" 44k stream, which will be a huge benefit for streaming services, and for people who want to listen to high quality music on their phones (where they pay for the bandwidth they use by the byte), and for portable players with very limited memory capacity. However, because it is just a CODEC, like WAV - or FLAC - or ALAC - or MP3, I also expect it to be incorporated into the client software for any streaming service that uses it, and, if it becomes successful, probably into the majority of audio music player programs as well (assuming that the licensing fees are reasonable). That means that, as long as the streaming service you use supports MQA in their software, or your music player program supports it, then you will be able to play it through any audio device you can connect to your computer or audio client - which includes the XMC-1. (The XMC-1 supports the industry standard PCM format; when you use Spotify, the Spotify client supports the Ogg Vorbis format they use, and converts it to PCM to send to us; when you use Foobar2000, it plays files in any of the dozens of formats it supports, and converts them to PCM to send to us.) As with most other CODECs, while it will certainly be possible to include MQA in hardware devices, and Meridian will probably make more on licensing fees if it is, there's not a lot of reason to do so in most situations. In other words, as long as the popular music player programs, or your favorite streaming service, supports it, then we already support it as well. (If they want to claim that MQA is so audibly superior that converting MQA to 192k PCM results in a loss of quality, they'll have a lot of proving to do. Since the bandwidth between your computer and your XMC-1 is essentially free and unlimited, sending the audio between them in a format that uses less bandwidth is pointless.) Once you get past the technology, you have to look at the plans for world domination separately. If they can convince people to re-master current content at higher quality, and to be more careful when mastering new content, then I'm all for it. Likewise, I would love to see a high quality format replace MP3 or AAC as the most popular format for streaming music (although I don't especially see any benefit to replacing 192k downloads since download bandwidth is dirt cheap). And, if they can manage to "link" their CODEC to all this somehow, then I'm all for that as well. (I think it would be GREAT if they can somehow guarantee that everything I might download in MQA was mastered well, and sounded really good; but Pono already tried that path with little success.) I think we'll all have to wait and see on that one. However, TO SUMMARIZE, as long as the software client for your streaming music service, or the music player software you use, supports MQA, then all of our products will support it too (and already do), and it won't require any additions or changes on our part Wow did you folks read that article about MQA. It is going to be a game changer. Everything should have it. I really hope Emotiva is going to take a preemptive approach to this. It should definitely be implemented in the new processor. If not it may be considered just like the xmc1 was. Behind the times. |
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