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Post by badronald on Feb 13, 2016 9:50:10 GMT -5
What cabinet is that? I'm looking for one that will hold that much stuff. |
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Post by badronald on Feb 13, 2016 9:53:35 GMT -5
Overkill, yes. BUT, if you have the cash and it makes you happy, GO for it! That's all that matters
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Post by pop on Feb 13, 2016 10:02:10 GMT -5
That would also be over 240lbs of amplifier Well, it's your call. It's not overkill though. |
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Post by Talley on Feb 13, 2016 10:10:46 GMT -5
That would also be over 240lbs of amplifier Well, it's your call. It's not overkill though. What would be wrong with just doing two xpa-1s and a xpa-3. Your saying that keeping the xpa-7 to use for only 3 channels would be better than the xpa-3 then |
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Post by geebo on Feb 13, 2016 10:19:05 GMT -5
How about three 1Ls across the front and something smaller to handle surrounds. Like an XPA-200 or even something like a Crown Drive Core class D amp.
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Post by hemster on Feb 13, 2016 10:33:31 GMT -5
I have 7 XPA-1L's in my home theater and an XPA-5 for when the XMR-1 with Atmos is released. I could not be happier as the setup sounds outstanding. They are driving all Axiom speakers M80, VP180, and 4 Qs-8's and 2 SVS Pb-12 Plus subs to finish it off. Very clean power and wows me every time I listen, 2 Furman power conditioners XMC-1 Oppo 105d Project Debut turntable 7 XPA-1L's XPA-5 for future Atmos Apple Tav Sony 3D Projector 120" screen Salamander quad rack Axiom M80 4x Axiom QS-8 2x SVS Pb-12 Plus Unverse Mac with 12tb raid 1+0 storage to serve movies and music What a fantastic setup!!! Everything about it is perfect! No Schiit!  Seriously, that's a great rig. |
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Post by Talley on Feb 13, 2016 10:41:48 GMT -5
How about three 1Ls across the front and something smaller to handle surrounds. Like an XPA-200 or even something like a Crown Drive Core class D amp. I'm not downgrading. My krell packed a pretty good punch. So far the xpa-7 is close. I wouldn't mind three xpa-1s for the front three and two xpa-1l for the back two. This I could live with lol. at the minimum two xpa-1s and three xpa-1ls but thats if I decide to go monoblocks. If I did two xpa-1s then I have no issue going to an xpa-3 type just for the center/surrounds. this would be ideal because I could make my rack wider and fit all three amps side by side. This would in fact be my preferred setup imho. I listen to too much music not to have monoblocks. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 13, 2016 11:23:55 GMT -5
Okay what do you get? Isolation. No shared anything. No Crosstalk, the ultimate yes from the previous nos'. All reference systems run mono blocks. There is a reason. I tell everyone if you have a chance to go mono blocks, only good can come from it. Our mono block society here will vouch for my assertion I am sure. So Vince, are you telling me that I should call and order the last 7 XPR-1's before they're gone?  |
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Post by cheapthryl on Feb 13, 2016 11:44:20 GMT -5
My HT room: 2 XPA1L's for R, L...1 XPA 100 for c...2 UPA 2's for SR, SL, BR, BL. Plenty of power for me. YMMV
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Post by audiosyndrome on Feb 13, 2016 11:56:08 GMT -5
Five XPA-1Ls are the only way to go. Did it over a year ago and will never look back.
Russ
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Post by etc6849 on Feb 13, 2016 12:03:14 GMT -5
You get a more stable power supply to handle extreme transients. It totally depends on speaker impedance, efficiency and listening distance though. It is possible to reap no benefit, but if someone wants to future proof for all possible speakers they may own in the next 15 years, nothing but good can come from having extra head room. I don't think the crosstalk difference is audible, there are tests online to blindly see what dynamic range you can hear (in your room on your setup). I can barely pass the 72dB dynamic range test (-72dB down from a normal listening volume) : www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_dynamic.phpNo way could I hear no crosstalk versus -120dB of crosstalk. Definitely though, I love mono blocks now that I have them! Okay what do you get? Isolation. No shared anything. No Crosstalk, the ultimate yes from the previous nos'. All reference systems run mono blocks. There is a reason. I tell everyone if you have a chance to go mono blocks, only good can come from it. Our mono block society here will vouch for my assertion I am sure. |
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Post by Talley on Feb 13, 2016 13:01:31 GMT -5
Five XPA-1Ls are the only way to go. Did it over a year ago and will never look back. Russ I'd be OK with them for a center or surrounds but not mains. Too weak. |
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Post by jjkessler on Feb 13, 2016 13:05:14 GMT -5
They perform great with my Axiom M80 fronts. Although I have never really had my XMC-1 cranked higher than 0Db.
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Post by Talley on Feb 13, 2016 13:11:54 GMT -5
For now I gotta send the krell off to get repaired. I've lost 3 channels now due and now the input modules are distorting so when that comes back I'll have to decide what I'm doing then. Keep krell, keep xpa-7 or move to monoblocks etc. I prefer the sound of the Krell on the high end it's a tad warmer but there is more resolution with the xpa.
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Post by Talley on Feb 13, 2016 13:23:11 GMT -5
You get a more stable power supply to handle extreme transients. It totally depends on speaker impedance, efficiency and listening distance though. It is possible to reap no benefit, but if someone wants to future proof for all possible speakers they may own in the next 15 years, nothing but good can come from having extra head room. I don't think the crosstalk difference is audible, there are tests online to blindly see what dynamic range you can hear (in your room on your setup). I can barely pass the 72dB dynamic range test (-72dB down from a normal listening volume) : www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_dynamic.phpNo way could I hear no crosstalk versus -120dB of crosstalk. Definitely though, I love mono blocks now that I have them! Okay what do you get? Isolation. No shared anything. No Crosstalk, the ultimate yes from the previous nos'. All reference systems run mono blocks. There is a reason. I tell everyone if you have a chance to go mono blocks, only good can come from it. Our mono block society here will vouch for my assertion I am sure. well in a noisy enviroment w/ the laundry running about 14' away and using my grado sr125 headphones i'm only good for 54db. i got 8/10. Good find on this I'll have to do it again on my main system when it's quiet in the house. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 13, 2016 14:32:13 GMT -5
For stereo,2.1 music there is no doubt that the XPA-1L's are better sounding to me for the FL and FR, This leaves the XPA-5 for the other 3 in the 5.1 set up for movies, plus I utilise the spare 2 channels for occasional zone 2 (the veranda) use. For 5.1 movies I haven't really noticed a lot of difference, the XPA-5 had more than enough of everything for my speakers (8 ohm, 92 db) in my room (large room, small listening area). Sound wise, quality or quantity, for HT use, I can't say that multiple XPA-1L's would be much, if any, of a step up from an XPA-7. However for stereo music a pair is most certainly worth considering. I should mention that I have located the XPA-1L's close up beside their respective speaker, so the speaker cables (Emotiva X SS) are very short (1 meter) compared to the 5 meter cables used with the XPA-5. Past experience tells me that makes a small difference as well. Also the XPA-5 power supply, only driving 3 channels, gives a few more watts than when asked to drive 5.
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Post by geebo on Feb 13, 2016 14:58:38 GMT -5
Five XPA-1Ls are the only way to go. Did it over a year ago and will never look back. Russ I'd be OK with them for a center or surrounds but not mains. Too weak. Wasn't that your original question? Getting 5 1Ls? |
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Post by audiosyndrome on Feb 13, 2016 17:29:51 GMT -5
Five XPA-1Ls are the only way to go. Did it over a year ago and will never look back. Russ I'd be OK with them for a center or surrounds but not mains. Too weak. The only Emotiva amp that doubles its power into four ohms. And it is fully balanced to boot. Russ |
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Post by jjkessler on Feb 13, 2016 17:41:52 GMT -5
I liked how the XPA-1L's matched to my speaker choice in my theater. The Axiom M80, and VP-180 center are rated for 400 watts at 4 Ohms and the QS-8 side and surrounds are rated for 400 watts at 8 Ohms. I'm quite sure I've never driven them anywhere what they are capable of and it was LOUD and very clear
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Post by klinemj on Feb 13, 2016 19:55:38 GMT -5
I am surprised at all you nattering nabobs of negativity saying 5 XPA-1L's are overkill!!! 15 (3 per speaker) could border on overkill, but "COME ON MAN!!!!!". 5 is just an appetizer!!!! We need to feed this man's addiction, that is what we are here for!   Mark |
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