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Post by novisnick on Apr 4, 2016 17:57:52 GMT -5
Seems like time to start this thread since Big Dan got the first report. Lets sound off and hear from more of you that have a gen 3 at home.   |
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Post by Bonzo on Apr 5, 2016 12:07:36 GMT -5
It seems more like it's time to close this thread, since no one with a Gen 3 is posting.  This thread is all about what I call thread pouncing. The very next post after the OP is totally contradictory and off topic of the thread, which in turn derails the thread. Completely innocent this time for sure, but it's not what this particular thread was meant to be about. It's a variation on trolling. I talk about it more here. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/805857/threadSo yeah, this thread may be dead before it even got started.  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Apr 5, 2016 12:44:56 GMT -5
It seems more like it's time to close this thread, since no one with a Gen 3 is posting. This thread is all about what I call thread pouncing. The very next post after the OP is totally contradictory and off topic of the thread, which in turn derails the thread. Completely innocent this time for sure, but it's not what this particular thread was meant to be about. It's a variation on trolling. I talk about it more here. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/805857/threadSo yeah, this thread may be dead before it even got started. Exactly as you say, lets please stay on topic, so when those that actually do have the new XPA Gen3 power amplifiers post their experience we can actually talk about it without weeding through extraneous postings. |
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Post by ravens52 on Apr 5, 2016 13:50:35 GMT -5
I hope this thread gets some traction. I've been reading posts in here past couple of weeks in anticipation for feedback from those who purchased XPA gen3. I'm on the fence between the XPA-5 or the XPA gen 3. Is it worth the extra $600?
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Post by fast402 on Apr 6, 2016 13:59:29 GMT -5
Hi folks. New member here. And I have early feedback. I recently decided to see about replacing my Adcom GFA 5500 and GFA 2535 amplifiers and went web-searching. That's how I found Emotiva (never heard of them) and became interested in the new XPA Gen 3. So I started reading reviews of Emotiva amplifiers, looked at the specs and said "What the heck!" I had no idea I would be one of the first to receive the product but it looks like that's what happened. I received my XPA 5 on Monday. My other relevant equipment includes a Rotel CD player that I actually chose by bringing home multiple players and comparing, plus a complete (front) set of B&W Matrix speakers with matching floor standing and center speakers. I can't remember the exact B&W model because I am not home. I really didn't know what to expect when I fired up the new amp but I was actually surprised and very pleased. My impression is the sound is much more musical, I hear many more sounds in my favorite recordings. When I turn up the volume if doesn't so much get louder as the room just fills up more and the sound appears to be natural and effortless. Drums sound more natural as do violins and horns. The base is much less muddled. So, take if for what it is worth from someone who is no expert but very satisfied that I can enjoy a major upgrade in sound from CDs, TV and movies. One word of caution (although you may all know this). My old amps were in an entertainment cabinet but this baby is way too deep for that and I was forced to set it on top, next to the center channel speaker - my wife is not happy. Probably a good move on Emotiva's part to keep them out of cabinets for obvious reasons.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Apr 6, 2016 15:16:21 GMT -5
Thank you very much, fast402! Now we just need to hear a comparison between Gen 2 and Gen 3  |
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 12, 2016 5:44:13 GMT -5
I am buying a gen 3 xpa5 on Thurs. I have a xpr2, xpa1L, XPA-200, so I will have some comparison notes to come. I know it's not quite the same but I hope it helps.
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Post by bartak81 on Apr 13, 2016 20:24:54 GMT -5
I just got my XPA-3 gen 3 today ( have pair of SA-250) cant compare to XPA gen2(never had one), but I like the sound from this amp, sounds pretty close to my SA-250, and I am sure with the time it will sound even better
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 19, 2016 8:53:08 GMT -5
OK, I ordered the xpa5 gen3 on Thursday and thanks to the production department completing 3 for shipment, it was ready to ship the same day!!! I am not a big fan of ups, which is how it was shipped ( boo, hiss), so the amp arrived late Mon evening ( could have walked to my house faster). When I finally opened it and got it all hooked up in the bedroom I was very happy. I have both xpa, and xpr2 amps in the house already in the living room. So, the sound comparison goes as follows the new xpa sounds more like my xpr2 than an xpa1L, XPA-200. The sound is a touch more rounded than bright, if that makes sense to anyone. Better musical clarity. With music it sounds great as someone else mentioned fuller. With TV through Amazon fire TV streaming Hulu the voices were just perfect. All in all I am very pleased to have spent the extra money for a gen 3. The bedroom set up is yamaha 667 , Emotiva xpa5 gen3, 4 Polk monitor 70 series II for the front stage, Polk c2 for the center, and Polk rti a1 for the surrounds. The xpa5 powers the 5 front speaker, and the yammie powers the surrounds.
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 21, 2016 17:36:12 GMT -5
I did mention that, this my bedroom set up right? The old yammie was at one time hooked up to my living room set up. I did replace the yammie with a umc200 and have now placed the yamaha in the bedroom with the rest of my less than perfect equipment. But since I had every amp hooked to the yamaha at one time I was able to comment on how the various amps compare. My main system (for now) consists of umc200, xpr2 powering Polk rtia9s, a xpa1l powering Polk csi6, and a xpa 200 powering Polk rtia1s. I will add to my previous review to make this post relivant. When I turned the knob up to reference level... My room moved. I mean every thing seemed to be in motion and then disaster. My gen3 xpa5 just quit. A small wimper escaped my mouth as fear began to take hold. I checked the amp the plug hit power, removed the cord pluged it back in nothing. Then it dawned on me that I had blown the 20 amp dedicated breaker in the basement. A quick trip to the basement and back to bedroom bliss. Moral of the story there is,they need a dedicated 220 line ran to them if you plan on turning it up to insane levels. 220 line goes in this weekend!!!
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Post by srpawski on Apr 21, 2016 17:51:45 GMT -5
Define insane levels, or the level of volume you had it turned up to that caused this. I am trying to figure out how this is possible since the amp itself at 5 channels times 250 watts is only 1250 watts and 20 amps is 2400 watts.
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Post by jackpine on Apr 21, 2016 18:35:10 GMT -5
Define insane levels, or the level of volume you had it turned up to that caused this. I am trying to figure out how this is possible since the amp itself at 5 channels times 250 watts is only 1250 watts and 20 amps is 2400 watts. You're assuming amplifiers are are 100% efficient, they're not. Also we don't know what else might have been plugged in on the same circuit or if the house wiring has losses causing higher current draw. |
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 22, 2016 6:10:17 GMT -5
I did reference level.
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 22, 2016 6:16:45 GMT -5
OK, reference level, and dedicated 20amp circuit. In other words 105 dB, and the breaker was only for that one singular plug. Hope that helps. Oh and my house meets current electrical code, it was rewired 2 years ago. Completely and inspected.
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Post by srpawski on Apr 22, 2016 7:14:29 GMT -5
Is the common for their amps to draw that much power? Have others had issues with this happening before? I saw a YouTube video of a guy running 3 emotive amps through a Panamax 5300 and it was only drawing 7.5 amps at its peak.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Apr 22, 2016 8:07:21 GMT -5
Back on topic? Info on XPA Gen-3?
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 22, 2016 8:21:25 GMT -5
Oh, and for my wife's pleasure the so g that was playing at the time the breaker went was Megan trainors "No". It is base heavy.
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Post by 509Paul on Apr 22, 2016 8:39:20 GMT -5
New construction bedroom circuits generally have AFCI breakers which might be what caused the breaker to trip with that load sensing an arc. My 20 amp breaker runs close to its rated capacity with all my gear and has never had a problem.
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Post by fastmatt on Apr 22, 2016 12:05:13 GMT -5
New construction bedroom circuits generally have AFCI breakers which might be what caused the breaker to trip with that load sensing an arc. My 20 amp breaker runs close to its rated capacity with all my gear and has never had a problem. Yep that would be the breaker type. Now if you read emotiva's recommendation for multi channel gen 3, they recommend a 220 line. Not saying it's a have to have but I will put one in. I have extra wire, and the 2 pole breaker is cheap. If I leave it the way it is now, someone will crank it while I am at work and I just don't want any problems down the line. Back on the topic the gen 3 xpa5's sound floor is black, no hiss, no static, just perfect. |
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Post by srpawski on Apr 22, 2016 12:30:59 GMT -5
I would also think it would depend on its configured if it's 2, 3, 5, or 7 channel since like you said the more channels the higher the power draw.
Are you using the trigger output from the receiver to remotely turn it off and on?
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