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Post by ÈlTwo on May 21, 2016 23:07:11 GMT -5
Read my post, 4 above this, I got it. I will have to mercilessly stalk the next person who points out my error.  (but you have to prove you've read the post I'm referring to). |
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Post by Lsc on May 21, 2016 23:12:53 GMT -5
Better wait and see if Emotiva considers the new version a new generation processor, and thus eligible for the Upgrade For Life. If it's still the same generation, I don't believe the discount is available. I thought the updated XMC-1 for 2017 will be a Gen 3. So that would make it a newer generation over the current Gen 2. The UFL entitles one to buy two of the same generation at a 25% discount. I bought two one for myself and one for a friend.
Exactly. The generation is indicated on the name - can't be any clearer than that  . Emotiva would love it if we used that to get 2 more XMC-1s. I'll bet they will make more on the new XMC-1 vs. getting the upgrades. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 21, 2016 23:17:30 GMT -5
Better wait and see if Emotiva considers the new version a new generation processor, and thus eligible for the Upgrade For Life. If it's still the same generation, I don't believe the discount is available. I thought the updated XMC-1 for 2017 will be a Gen 3. So that would make it a newer generation over the current Gen 2. The UFL entitles one to buy two of the same generation at a 25% discount. I bought two one for myself and one for a friend.
Emotiva would have to clarify this. I think "Generation" for processors refers to the design, for instance an XMC-1 is a later Generation than the UMC-1; whereas an XMC-1 Gen 3 is an update/upgrade from a Gen 2. Obviously my interpretation. |
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Post by cwt on May 21, 2016 23:35:35 GMT -5
Emotiva would have to clarify this. I think "Generation" for processors refers to the design, for instance an XMC-1 is a later Generation than the UMC-1; whereas an XMC-1 Gen 3 is an update/upgrade from a Gen 2. Obviously my interpretation. Yes Keith wasnt absolute when he mentioned this nomenclature indeed ; same generation looks right I agree . Just thinking how Bonzo would interpret all this |
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Post by edrummereasye on May 22, 2016 4:26:08 GMT -5
Hi all, Happy to see all of the interest and excitement regarding the new upgrade path! We're really excited and working hard to bring this out on time... now, don't laugh!! We're doing much better these days!! A couple of notes... 1. We will definitely work to get more than one Dirac preset for the XMC-1. 2. The new DSP engine will have enough H.P. to support Dirac Unison. We don't know all of the details regarding implementation and cost yet, but we'll keep you posted as we know. We'd like to be able to offer it as an option. 3. We'll have enough DSP oomph to do Dirac at 96k on the new engine. Again, we've got to do some negotiating with Dirac on the business side of this, but we'll certainly do our best to make it available. Stand by for advice as we get it. 4. There IS a 16 channel super AVP under development, concurrent with the updated XMC-1. We're not ready to release specific details yet, but you can probably guess the most obvious "must have" features for this baby. BTW, we do not make any meaningful profit on the DSP upgrade. It's EXPENSIVE!! But we're taking the long view on this side of the business and we're in it for keeps. We're going to do some amazing stuff in the next year or so. We've hit our stride, so to speak. So, hang on!! Thanks for the support and keeping faith! More to come soon. Cheers, Big Dan Okay, at this point I think it needs to be said: Big Dan...YOU ROCK, man!!! That post kinda brought a tear to my eye *sniff*...  |
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Post by mick on May 22, 2016 4:34:08 GMT -5
Let me know when you want to sell it Mick, even if I go and pick one up personally (while on holidays) it will cost me minimum $A4,400 less 25% = $A3,300. So if I buy yours for $A1500 then take it with me for servicing (while on holidays) and spend $A400 + $A800 that's $A2700. So I'll be $A600 in front and your XMC-1 (now mine) will have been back to Emotiva for the upgrades plus a factory check over. The bonus, since I'll be getting something I already own serviced, I won't be paying any GST on the way back, so that's another $A330 I'll save. Seriously, let me know when you want to sell it.LOL Cheers Gary ..... read post again Garry, I wouldn't sell until all the new upgrades come out,and the $1,500 was just pulled out of you know what. cheers |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 22, 2016 16:11:25 GMT -5
Let me know when you want to sell it Mick, even if I go and pick one up personally (while on holidays) it will cost me minimum $A4,400 less 25% = $A3,300. So if I buy yours for $A1500 then take it with me for servicing (while on holidays) and spend $A400 + $A800 that's $A2700. So I'll be $A600 in front and your XMC-1 (now mine) will have been back to Emotiva for the upgrades plus a factory check over. The bonus, since I'll be getting something I already own serviced, I won't be paying any GST on the way back, so that's another $A330 I'll save. Seriously, let me know when you want to sell it. ..... read post again Garry, I wouldn't sell until all the new upgrades come out,and the $1,500 was just pulled out of you know what. cheers It's OK Mick, I wasn't looking at buying until the new upgraded version came out, which according to Dan would be sometime in 2017. The price is of course negotiable at the time, but I suspect your "guess" of $A1500 isn't far off the mark. It'll be a ~3 year old superseded model with, by then, some obvious missing tech that would cost someone locally ~$A1800 to have upgraded. Which as you posted would mean a brand new one is probably a better choice. It only works for me because I'm due a holiday in the US, haven't been to Nashville or Memphis and Emofest has been on my bucket list for a while. Hey, maybe you should copy my idea and go yourself, I have a standing invitation for a tour of the Jack Daniels factory and we are planning to drive from Washington to Nashville/Memphis over the Smokey Mts. Should be a cool holiday. Cheers Gary |
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Post by edrummereasye on May 22, 2016 23:25:14 GMT -5
Emotiva would have to clarify this. I think "Generation" for processors refers to the design, for instance an XMC-1 is a later Generation than the UMC-1; whereas an XMC-1 Gen 3 is an update/upgrade from a Gen 2. Obviously my interpretation. That's the way I interpret it, as well. "XMC-1 Gen 3" is the "third generation (aka 'revision') of XMC-1"; but all XMC-1's, whether "original", "Gen 2", or "Gen 3", belong to Emotiva's "third* generation of processors". * I'm assuming the LMC-1 and any others I missed were the "1st generation"; the UMC-1 and UMC-200 were "2nd generation"; and the XMC-1 and upcoming BasX and Emersa processors are all "3rd generation"; of course, we all know what happens when we 'assume'... |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 23, 2016 13:13:49 GMT -5
Emotiva tweeted this out today:
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Post by goodfellas27 on May 23, 2016 13:27:01 GMT -5
Emotiva tweeted this out today:
I got an email saying the same |
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Post by wizardofoz on May 23, 2016 13:28:29 GMT -5
Me too....still no multi port hdmi upgrade  ? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 13:54:39 GMT -5
Can it be q1 2017 already?
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 23, 2016 15:04:53 GMT -5
Can it be q1 2017 already? Yes ... if you have one of these!  |
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Post by sahmen on May 23, 2016 15:20:06 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed how these official blurbs always seem to announce moving from HDMI 1.4a to HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2., without mentioning HDMI 2.0a? I wonder how significant that omission is, and how legitimately concerned one should be about that. What is one going to miss if one has the HDMI 2.0 upgrade without the 2.0a?
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Post by sahmen on May 23, 2016 15:26:22 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed how these official blurbs always seem to announce moving from HDMI 1.4a to HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2., without mentioning HDMI 2.0a? I wonder how significant that omission is, and how legitimately concerned one should be about that. What is one going to miss if one has the HDMI 2.0 upgrade without the 2.0a? Okay, it seems KeithL just addressed this same question here |
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Post by LCSeminole on May 23, 2016 18:24:32 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed how these official blurbs always seem to announce moving from HDMI 1.4a to HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2., without mentioning HDMI 2.0a? I wonder how significant that omission is, and how legitimately concerned one should be about that. What is one going to miss if one has the HDMI 2.0 upgrade without the 2.0a? Okay, it seems KeithL just addressed this same question hereI've re-titled this thread that "sahmen" provides a link to above, locked it, and deleted all posts in it except the original post with question and KeithL's answer/response. Since it has been asked or alluded to over the past couple months, this should take care of anyone's inquiry. Link below if you didn't see "sahmen"'s. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/47011/hdmi-hdcp-multi-port-board?page=1&scrollTo=820344 |
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Post by LCSeminole on May 23, 2016 19:04:21 GMT -5
On a serious note, Krell Foundation owners are now paying $2500 to upgrade to 4K/HDCP2.2/HDMI2.0, without immersive sound(meaning no Dolby Atmos/DTS:X) so I think this puts a slight perspective on matters. Dan & Cathy haven't gouged their customers before and I don't expect them to start now, so I wouldn't expect to pay anymore than what is Emotiva's cost plus any labor and shipping that it may cost them. Just read a post on another forum which referred to the Krell Foundation 4K and it's HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 capability. The question referred to the Foundation 4K not working with the new Samsung UBD‑K8500 UHD blu-ray player to pass HDR and that he sent Krell an e-mail asking if this would be addressed in an update. According to the post, Krell's response was this, "the 4K Foundation hardware will not support HDR and there is no upgrade path being considered at this time". I'm not understanding what the $2500 Foundation 4K upgrade brings to the table. Isn't HDR/Dolby Vision the supposed future of video processing? If so, I'd think if I were a Foundation 4K owner that $2500 was extorted from me. Anyhow, I think what Dan Laufman and Company will be offering in the XMC-1 future upgrades is now even more so brought into perspective price-wise, technology-wise and customer-wise. With this post I'm only offering a comparison perspective, so please keep on-topic and no brand bashing please. |
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Post by rhale64 on May 23, 2016 19:42:56 GMT -5
I knew this stuff about the Foundation long ago. I was the leader of the Foundation group over there.
This is the exact reason I bailed and sold mine and bought the xmc1. I knew that the value of the Foundation was going to plummet when the new technology came out.
I got a personal response from one of the higher ups and posted it on Avs right after I sold my Foundation of course. I guess this could be called inside trading. Lol
That email and the rumour of the RMC1 together allowed me the peace of mind to finally sell it.
I loved the Foundation. It was an awesome processor that was going to soon be old news. Such a shame.
Emo has done something that no other company I know of would have done. After they said it couldn't be upgraded they kept working on it. And they have actually done it.
They have one me over on this. I will forever buy a Emotiva processor as long as they keep making them. I may even try one of the newer amps. And put it up against my Theta Dreadnaught D. I talked Kal Rubinson in to reviewing one and now he owns one too.
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Post by Erwin.BE on May 24, 2016 12:44:17 GMT -5
And the 16ch-AVP formerly known as the XMR-1 which was formerly known as the RMC-1 will up the ante once again. Can't wait!
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Post by pepar on May 24, 2016 12:56:14 GMT -5
... I talked Kal Rubinson in to reviewing one and now he owns one too. THAT was the SINGLE most influential review I read that lead me to purchase the XMC-1. Jeff |
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