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Post by IBJamon on Aug 20, 2016 16:43:56 GMT -5
Obviously a quite rare illness called ESS/AMT-Compulsive-Itis runs in your family! Oh geez, now what could have given that away? There is little I have heard that has the detail, airiness and dynamics as the good ol' AMT. Which is no doubt why Emotiva is using them!
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Post by knucklehead on Aug 20, 2016 18:25:34 GMT -5
For anyone that is curious about what the AMT tweeter sounds like Parts Express have the Dayton B652-AIR - its a very inexpensive way to find out if the AMT tweeter is for you - just under $60 plus a capped shipping of $6.95.. Is it coincidental that the B1's have a similar look as the AMT in those B652's? Probably not. Someone is mass producing a very decent AMT tweeter that more than a few manufacturers are using. No reason to reinvent the wheel. The B652-AIR has a 25x25mm AMT where the entire passive and powered Airmotiv speakers use a 25x32mm tweeter. Slightly less output with the slightly smaller Dayton tweeter. I would imagine those two tweeters sound similar. When I owned a pair of AM6 speakers I liked the AMT tweeter just fine. Was it better than what is in the ERM/ERT Reference line? I heard very little real difference - YMMV of course - and usually does! I decided to take a different route. Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic Audio buys buys and assembles the Dayton BR-1 speaker kit but uses his own crossover assembly. His crossover work with Salk Audio is well known. He designed the Song Tower from scratch then presented it to Jim Salk to see if he was interested. The rest is history. It worked out pretty good - the song towers are quite nice IMO! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The description on Murphy's website says this about the Affordable Accuracy Monitor: Although we have specified the bass response very conservatively at a -3 dB point of 48 Hz, the monitors will in fact produce very audible output at 34 Hz. You can test that for yourself with a demo CD that we include with every pair of monitors. Thus, you can expect a firm bass foundation and very high power handling on music material without the cost and complexity of a subwoofer. But the most surprising element of the new monitor is its price--only $210/pr plus shipping. That's just $30 more than the stock BR-1 kit, and the Affordable Accuracy Monitor is fully assembled.
Note: Dayton Audio lists this spec: Frequency response: 43-18,000 Hz. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll give my initial impressions of that speaker when it gets here if anyone is interested - should arrive about Thursday-Friday. And NO! The ERM-1's aren't for sale. I have plans... Anyway - as I said - I have a pair of Murphy's "Affordable Accuracy Monitors" on their way. I decided on those over the B1 because of the low bass extension that should let me eliminate the subwoofer in my bedroom. Only needed because the ERM-1's do not play low at all - as anyone who owns any of the ERM speakers already know. Sub is needed to round out the sound. Testing the ERM-1 with Audacity I consistently got nothing usable below 70hz. At 80hz the ERM-1 was down by -4db and rolling off quickly. Audyssey & YPAO (Yamaha) set the crossover at 90hz due to roll-off past that mark. Don't get me wrong - the ERM-1 is a wonderful sounding speaker - it just has no low end. A good sub is essential. Trying to set up my sub to work with the ERM-1's driven by an Onkyo TX-8050 with no bass correction in a 14x16' room with no bass traps is damn near impossible. Stubbing my toe time after time these past 4-5 years gets tiresome.! Just no floor space for a sub.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 21:00:54 GMT -5
For anyone that is curious about what the AMT tweeter sounds like Parts Express have the Dayton B652-AIR - its a very inexpensive way to find out if the AMT tweeter is for you - just under $60 plus a capped shipping of $6.95.. Is it coincidental that the B1's have a similar look as the AMT in those B652's? Probably not. Someone is mass producing a very decent AMT tweeter that more than a few manufacturers are using. No reason to reinvent the wheel. The B652-AIR has a 25x25mm AMT where the entire passive and powered Airmotiv speakers use a 25x32mm tweeter. Slightly less output with the slightly smaller Dayton tweeter. I would imagine those two tweeters sound similar. When I owned a pair of AM6 speakers I liked the AMT tweeter just fine. Was it better than what is in the ERM/ERT Reference line? I heard very little real difference - YMMV of course - and usually does! I decided to take a different route. Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic Audio buys buys and assembles the Dayton BR-1 speaker kit but uses his own crossover assembly. His crossover work with Salk Audio is well known. He designed the Song Tower from scratch then presented it to Jim Salk to see if he was interested. The rest is history. It worked out pretty good - the song towers are quite nice IMO! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The description on Murphy's website says this about the Affordable Accuracy Monitor: Although we have specified the bass response very conservatively at a -3 dB point of 48 Hz, the monitors will in fact produce very audible output at 34 Hz. You can test that for yourself with a demo CD that we include with every pair of monitors. Thus, you can expect a firm bass foundation and very high power handling on music material without the cost and complexity of a subwoofer. But the most surprising element of the new monitor is its price--only $210/pr plus shipping. That's just $30 more than the stock BR-1 kit, and the Affordable Accuracy Monitor is fully assembled.
Note: Dayton Audio lists this spec: Frequency response: 43-18,000 Hz. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll give my initial impressions of that speaker when it gets here if anyone is interested - should arrive about Thursday-Friday. And NO! The ERM-1's aren't for sale. I have plans... Anyway - as I said - I have a pair of Murphy's "Affordable Accuracy Monitors" on their way. I decided on those over the B1 because of the low bass extension that should let me eliminate the subwoofer in my bedroom. Only needed because the ERM-1's do not play low at all - as anyone who owns any of the ERM speakers already know. Sub is needed to round out the sound. Testing the ERM-1 with Audacity I consistently got nothing usable below 70hz. At 80hz the ERM-1 was down by -4db and rolling off quickly. Audyssey & YPAO (Yamaha) set the crossover at 90hz due to roll-off past that mark. Don't get me wrong - the ERM-1 is a wonderful sounding speaker - it just has no low end. A good sub is essential. Trying to set up my sub to work with the ERM-1's driven by an Onkyo TX-8050 with no bass correction in a 14x16' room with no bass traps is damn near impossible. Stubbing my toe time after time these past 4-5 years gets tiresome.! Just no floor space for a sub. Having been involved in the development of the B652-AIR while working for Parts Express, I can say definitively that none of the Emotiva Airmotiv speakers are using the AMT-style tweeter element from the B652-AIR. It's not a bad tweeter - it gives a nice taste of the AMT-eqsue sound - but not nearly as nice as the tweeters we use. Also, the Airmotiv tweeters do need some break-in. Out of the box, they are somewhat dynamically restricted and peaky at the very top end, and need a little time to relax, which they do after about 100 hours. That should be more than sufficient time for the other drivers' suspensions to break in also, and break-in is a feature of the woven Kevlar cones as well. Thanks to everyone for the positive comments, particularly on the T1 which I spent a great deal of time on. I'm proud of what we've delivered in the new Airmotiv speakers, and I'm glad to have been part of it. It would make my day if some of the positive impressions could also be posted to some of the other online forums for home theater audio, as we'd like to eventually see awareness of the product spread across the entire land of HT enthusiasts.
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Post by khurram on Aug 22, 2016 0:51:31 GMT -5
For anyone that is curious about what the AMT tweeter sounds like Parts Express have the Dayton B652-AIR - its a very inexpensive way to find out if the AMT tweeter is for you - just under $60 plus a capped shipping of $6.95.. Is it coincidental that the B1's have a similar look as the AMT in those B652's? Probably not. Someone is mass producing a very decent AMT tweeter that more than a few manufacturers are using. No reason to reinvent the wheel. The B652-AIR has a 25x25mm AMT where the entire passive and powered Airmotiv speakers use a 25x32mm tweeter. Slightly less output with the slightly smaller Dayton tweeter. I would imagine those two tweeters sound similar. When I owned a pair of AM6 speakers I liked the AMT tweeter just fine. Was it better than what is in the ERM/ERT Reference line? I heard very little real difference - YMMV of course - and usually does! I decided to take a different route. Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic Audio buys buys and assembles the Dayton BR-1 speaker kit but uses his own crossover assembly. His crossover work with Salk Audio is well known. He designed the Song Tower from scratch then presented it to Jim Salk to see if he was interested. The rest is history. It worked out pretty good - the song towers are quite nice IMO! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The description on Murphy's website says this about the Affordable Accuracy Monitor: Although we have specified the bass response very conservatively at a -3 dB point of 48 Hz, the monitors will in fact produce very audible output at 34 Hz. You can test that for yourself with a demo CD that we include with every pair of monitors. Thus, you can expect a firm bass foundation and very high power handling on music material without the cost and complexity of a subwoofer. But the most surprising element of the new monitor is its price--only $210/pr plus shipping. That's just $30 more than the stock BR-1 kit, and the Affordable Accuracy Monitor is fully assembled.
Note: Dayton Audio lists this spec: Frequency response: 43-18,000 Hz. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll give my initial impressions of that speaker when it gets here if anyone is interested - should arrive about Thursday-Friday. And NO! The ERM-1's aren't for sale. I have plans... Anyway - as I said - I have a pair of Murphy's "Affordable Accuracy Monitors" on their way. I decided on those over the B1 because of the low bass extension that should let me eliminate the subwoofer in my bedroom. Only needed because the ERM-1's do not play low at all - as anyone who owns any of the ERM speakers already know. Sub is needed to round out the sound. Testing the ERM-1 with Audacity I consistently got nothing usable below 70hz. At 80hz the ERM-1 was down by -4db and rolling off quickly. Audyssey & YPAO (Yamaha) set the crossover at 90hz due to roll-off past that mark. Don't get me wrong - the ERM-1 is a wonderful sounding speaker - it just has no low end. A good sub is essential. Trying to set up my sub to work with the ERM-1's driven by an Onkyo TX-8050 with no bass correction in a 14x16' room with no bass traps is damn near impossible. Stubbing my toe time after time these past 4-5 years gets tiresome.! Just no floor space for a sub. Having been involved in the development of the B652-AIR while working for Parts Express, I can say definitively that none of the Emotiva Airmotiv speakers are using the AMT-style tweeter element from the B652-AIR. It's not a bad tweeter - it gives a nice taste of the AMT-eqsue sound - but not nearly as nice as the tweeters we use. Also, the Airmotiv tweeters do need some break-in. Out of the box, they are somewhat dynamically restricted and peaky at the very top end, and need a little time to relax, which they do after about 100 hours. That should be more than sufficient time for the other drivers' suspensions to break in also, and break-in is a feature of the woven Kevlar cones as well. Thanks to everyone for the positive comments, particularly on the T1 which I spent a great deal of time on. I'm proud of what we've delivered in the new Airmotiv speakers, and I'm glad to have been part of it. It would make my day if some of the positive impressions could also be posted to some of the other online forums for home theater audio, as we'd like to eventually see awareness of the product spread across the entire land of HT enthusiasts. Its great to see a response from someone who's worked on the product. I'm very satisfied with their loudness and the bass response with a normal receiver. I quite like their delicacy dealing with content like talk shows etc. My parents in law are visiting so they're doing the break-in by watching tons of news
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Post by khurram on Aug 22, 2016 13:10:16 GMT -5
So I reached out to Emotiva and they were very quick to refund the 10%. Calls like this can be long conversations but this was 2 minutes. Two thumbs up to Emotiva for the fantastic customer service.
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Post by khurram on Aug 22, 2016 13:11:10 GMT -5
For anyone that is curious about what the AMT tweeter sounds like Parts Express have the Dayton B652-AIR - its a very inexpensive way to find out if the AMT tweeter is for you - just under $60 plus a capped shipping of $6.95.. Is it coincidental that the B1's have a similar look as the AMT in those B652's? Probably not. Someone is mass producing a very decent AMT tweeter that more than a few manufacturers are using. No reason to reinvent the wheel. The B652-AIR has a 25x25mm AMT where the entire passive and powered Airmotiv speakers use a 25x32mm tweeter. Slightly less output with the slightly smaller Dayton tweeter. I would imagine those two tweeters sound similar. When I owned a pair of AM6 speakers I liked the AMT tweeter just fine. Was it better than what is in the ERM/ERT Reference line? I heard very little real difference - YMMV of course - and usually does! I decided to take a different route. Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic Audio buys buys and assembles the Dayton BR-1 speaker kit but uses his own crossover assembly. His crossover work with Salk Audio is well known. He designed the Song Tower from scratch then presented it to Jim Salk to see if he was interested. The rest is history. It worked out pretty good - the song towers are quite nice IMO! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The description on Murphy's website says this about the Affordable Accuracy Monitor: Although we have specified the bass response very conservatively at a -3 dB point of 48 Hz, the monitors will in fact produce very audible output at 34 Hz. You can test that for yourself with a demo CD that we include with every pair of monitors. Thus, you can expect a firm bass foundation and very high power handling on music material without the cost and complexity of a subwoofer. But the most surprising element of the new monitor is its price--only $210/pr plus shipping. That's just $30 more than the stock BR-1 kit, and the Affordable Accuracy Monitor is fully assembled.
Note: Dayton Audio lists this spec: Frequency response: 43-18,000 Hz. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll give my initial impressions of that speaker when it gets here if anyone is interested - should arrive about Thursday-Friday. And NO! The ERM-1's aren't for sale. I have plans... Anyway - as I said - I have a pair of Murphy's "Affordable Accuracy Monitors" on their way. I decided on those over the B1 because of the low bass extension that should let me eliminate the subwoofer in my bedroom. Only needed because the ERM-1's do not play low at all - as anyone who owns any of the ERM speakers already know. Sub is needed to round out the sound. Testing the ERM-1 with Audacity I consistently got nothing usable below 70hz. At 80hz the ERM-1 was down by -4db and rolling off quickly. Audyssey & YPAO (Yamaha) set the crossover at 90hz due to roll-off past that mark. Don't get me wrong - the ERM-1 is a wonderful sounding speaker - it just has no low end. A good sub is essential. Trying to set up my sub to work with the ERM-1's driven by an Onkyo TX-8050 with no bass correction in a 14x16' room with no bass traps is damn near impossible. Stubbing my toe time after time these past 4-5 years gets tiresome.! Just no floor space for a sub. Having been involved in the development of the B652-AIR while working for Parts Express, I can say definitively that none of the Emotiva Airmotiv speakers are using the AMT-style tweeter element from the B652-AIR. It's not a bad tweeter - it gives a nice taste of the AMT-eqsue sound - but not nearly as nice as the tweeters we use. Also, the Airmotiv tweeters do need some break-in. Out of the box, they are somewhat dynamically restricted and peaky at the very top end, and need a little time to relax, which they do after about 100 hours. That should be more than sufficient time for the other drivers' suspensions to break in also, and break-in is a feature of the woven Kevlar cones as well. Thanks to everyone for the positive comments, particularly on the T1 which I spent a great deal of time on. I'm proud of what we've delivered in the new Airmotiv speakers, and I'm glad to have been part of it. It would make my day if some of the positive impressions could also be posted to some of the other online forums for home theater audio, as we'd like to eventually see awareness of the product spread across the entire land of HT enthusiasts. What type of material and loudness do you recommend for breaking the speakers in?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 15:41:18 GMT -5
Having been involved in the development of the B652-AIR while working for Parts Express, I can say definitively that none of the Emotiva Airmotiv speakers are using the AMT-style tweeter element from the B652-AIR. It's not a bad tweeter - it gives a nice taste of the AMT-eqsue sound - but not nearly as nice as the tweeters we use. Also, the Airmotiv tweeters do need some break-in. Out of the box, they are somewhat dynamically restricted and peaky at the very top end, and need a little time to relax, which they do after about 100 hours. That should be more than sufficient time for the other drivers' suspensions to break in also, and break-in is a feature of the woven Kevlar cones as well. Thanks to everyone for the positive comments, particularly on the T1 which I spent a great deal of time on. I'm proud of what we've delivered in the new Airmotiv speakers, and I'm glad to have been part of it. It would make my day if some of the positive impressions could also be posted to some of the other online forums for home theater audio, as we'd like to eventually see awareness of the product spread across the entire land of HT enthusiasts. What type of material and loudness do you recommend for breaking the speakers in? Moderate listening levels are fine (you're not trying to yank the speakers to death, just get them moving as they normally would), and you should use material that has bass, midrange, and treble content (as virtually all music does). This is the standard guidance for breaking in pretty much any speaker. You will notice a relaxing of the upper treble (by no more than 1 dB), a more natural midrange, and deeper, tighter bass.
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Post by khurram on Aug 22, 2016 20:23:16 GMT -5
What type of material and loudness do you recommend for breaking the speakers in? Moderate listening levels are fine (you're not trying to yank the speakers to death, just get them moving as they normally would), and you should use material that has bass, midrange, and treble content (as virtually all music does). This is the standard guidance for breaking in pretty much any speaker. You will notice a relaxing of the upper treble (by no more than 1 dB), a more natural midrange, and deeper, tighter bass. Thank you. Much appreciated ☺
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Post by q2klepto on Aug 23, 2016 12:30:16 GMT -5
Thinking of snagging these but theyre specced at 4ohm...would my receiver work with these Pioneer VSX-524K www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-524-KAmplifier Design Discrete Direct Energy Channels 5.1 Power Output: Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm 2ch Driven) 80 Watts Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm 1ch Driven) 140 Watts Guess it works at 6ohm, with slightly more distortion.
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Post by Axis on Aug 23, 2016 12:32:15 GMT -5
Thinking of snagging these but theyre specced at 4ohm...would my receiver work with these Pioneer VSX-524K www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-524-KAmplifier Design Discrete Direct Energy Channels 5.1 Power Output: Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm 2ch Driven) 80 Watts Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm 1ch Driven) 140 Watts Guess it works at 6ohm, with slightly more distortion. Yes, the Airmotiv speakers will work fine with your receiver.
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Post by khurram on Aug 23, 2016 12:34:07 GMT -5
Thinking of snagging these but theyre specced at 4ohm...would my receiver work with these Pioneer VSX-524K www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-524-KAmplifier Design Discrete Direct Energy Channels 5.1 Power Output: Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm 2ch Driven) 80 Watts Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm 1ch Driven) 140 Watts Guess it works at 6ohm, with slightly more distortion. I have no complaints using them with a Yamaha V673 which is a very midrange receiver and not very heavy.
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Post by q2klepto on Aug 23, 2016 13:35:37 GMT -5
Thinking of snagging these but theyre specced at 4ohm...would my receiver work with these Pioneer VSX-524K www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-524-KAmplifier Design Discrete Direct Energy Channels 5.1 Power Output: Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm 2ch Driven) 80 Watts Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm 1ch Driven) 140 Watts Guess it works at 6ohm, with slightly more distortion. I have no complaints using them with a Yamaha V673 which is a very midrange receiver and not very heavy. Interesting - they have similar specs? I have an SVS PB100 sub so the LFE will be handled by that, i wonder if that makes it easier on the receiver. Crossover i think is at 80hz, maybe 100hz.
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Post by khurram on Aug 23, 2016 13:37:31 GMT -5
I have no complaints using them with a Yamaha V673 which is a very midrange receiver and not very heavy. Interesting - they have similar specs? I have an SVS PB100 sub so the LFE will be handled by that, i wonder if that makes it easier on the receiver. Crossover i think is at 80hz, maybe 100hz. I am not using a subwoofer and the towers are set to large. It's strictly a 2.0 setup.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 23, 2016 14:46:51 GMT -5
The Pioneer appears to be rated for 6 ohm loads. Isn't the airmotiv a 4 ohm load?
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Post by khurram on Aug 23, 2016 14:52:46 GMT -5
The Pioneer appears to be rated for 6 ohm loads. Isn't the airmotiv a 4 ohm load? Its nominal impedance. Impedance varies across the frequency range so 4 ohm speaker is not necessary 4 ohm on the entire frequency range. You may get lucky and Rory (the designer of these) answers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 3:20:00 GMT -5
Thinking of snagging these but theyre specced at 4ohm...would my receiver work with these Pioneer VSX-524K www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-524-KAmplifier Design Discrete Direct Energy Channels 5.1 Power Output: Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm 2ch Driven) 80 Watts Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm 1ch Driven) 140 Watts Guess it works at 6ohm, with slightly more distortion. The VSX-524K is an entry level receiver ($250) and is realistically rated at 8 ohms. Ordinarily I wouldn't advise someone to buy this receiver for these 4 ohm speakers. However, since you already own it the smart plan it to try it out and see how it performs. It might just be OK depending on your usage. If you encounter any issues if would most likely be at high dynamic volumes and/or low bass playback. Watch in the future for any signs of over-heating, audible distortion or even occasional shut down. Hopefully you will have none of these problems. If you have a sub in your system and correctly set the T1's to small and cross over to the sub at 80Hx or slight lower then you take the low bass playback from the receiver's amp and place in on the powered sub's dedicated amp and this would be easier on the receiver's amp. In the future if you upgrade the receiver look for an amp that is specified into 4 ohms continuous power at low distraction. Just FYI, note that the spec listed at 6 ohms is pretty much meaningless as 1%THD is much more than slightly more distortion and is what is generally known as the beginning of amplifier clipping and audible distortion. THD of 0.1% (no higher than 0.25%) or lower is considered acceptably low distortion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 3:40:34 GMT -5
So I reached out to Emotiva and they were very quick to refund the 10%. Calls like this can be long conversations but this was 2 minutes. Two thumbs up to Emotiva for the fantastic customer service. This is why many of us consider ourselves Emotiva Fan-boys and Fan-girls. Great CS and no BS!
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Post by q2klepto on Aug 26, 2016 11:38:18 GMT -5
Thinking of snagging these but theyre specced at 4ohm...would my receiver work with these Pioneer VSX-524K www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-524-KAmplifier Design Discrete Direct Energy Channels 5.1 Power Output: Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm 2ch Driven) 80 Watts Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%THD@6ohm 1ch Driven) 140 Watts Guess it works at 6ohm, with slightly more distortion. The VSX-524K is an entry level receiver ($250) and is realistically rated at 8 ohms. Ordinarily I wouldn't advise someone to buy this receiver for these 4 ohm speakers. However, since you already own it the smart plan it to try it out and see how it performs. It might just be OK depending on your usage. If you encounter any issues if would most likely be at high dynamic volumes and/or low bass playback. Watch in the future for any signs of over-heating, audible distortion or even occasional shut down. Hopefully you will have none of these problems. If you have a sub in your system and correctly set the T1's to small and cross over to the sub at 80Hx or slight lower then you take the low bass playback from the receiver's amp and place in on the powered sub's dedicated amp and this would be easier on the receiver's amp. In the future if you upgrade the receiver look for an amp that is specified into 4 ohms continuous power at low distraction. Just FYI, note that the spec listed at 6 ohms is pretty much meaningless as 1%THD is much more than slightly more distortion and is what is generally known as the beginning of amplifier clipping and audible distortion. THD of 0.1% (no higher than 0.25%) or lower is considered acceptably low distortion. Thanks for the advise! Yea currently my Energy Vertias mini's are set to small with crossover at 80hz (or 100hz - dont remember). I usually listen at around 70-75db (according to my phone meter) with peaks around 95db. About 50% max on the knob. We'll see how these do, maybe hunt for a used pair of mono blocks or something
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Post by khurram on Aug 26, 2016 11:40:11 GMT -5
The VSX-524K is an entry level receiver ($250) and is realistically rated at 8 ohms. Ordinarily I wouldn't advise someone to buy this receiver for these 4 ohm speakers. However, since you already own it the smart plan it to try it out and see how it performs. It might just be OK depending on your usage. If you encounter any issues if would most likely be at high dynamic volumes and/or low bass playback. Watch in the future for any signs of over-heating, audible distortion or even occasional shut down. Hopefully you will have none of these problems. If you have a sub in your system and correctly set the T1's to small and cross over to the sub at 80Hx or slight lower then you take the low bass playback from the receiver's amp and place in on the powered sub's dedicated amp and this would be easier on the receiver's amp. In the future if you upgrade the receiver look for an amp that is specified into 4 ohms continuous power at low distraction. Just FYI, note that the spec listed at 6 ohms is pretty much meaningless as 1%THD is much more than slightly more distortion and is what is generally known as the beginning of amplifier clipping and audible distortion. THD of 0.1% (no higher than 0.25%) or lower is considered acceptably low distortion. Thanks for the advise! Yea currently my Energy Vertias mini's are set to small with crossover at 80hz (or 100hz - dont remember). I usually listen at around 70-75db (according to my phone meter) with peaks around 95db. About 50% max on the knob. We'll see how these do, maybe hunt for a used pair of mono blocks or something Your receiver most likely doesn't have pre-outs. If this is the case then you won't be able to use an additional amplifier.
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Post by q2klepto on Aug 26, 2016 12:46:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the advise! Yea currently my Energy Vertias mini's are set to small with crossover at 80hz (or 100hz - dont remember). I usually listen at around 70-75db (according to my phone meter) with peaks around 95db. About 50% max on the knob. We'll see how these do, maybe hunt for a used pair of mono blocks or something Your receiver most likely doesn't have pre-outs. If this is the case then you won't be able to use an additional amplifier. Oh youre right, it doesnt have pre-outs...oh well thatll be my next upgrade path.
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