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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 24, 2016 4:36:35 GMT -5
I have been waiting for this  the main reason why I didnt pull the trigger on xpa-1 gen 2 is the binding post where to far apart, I am pretty sure they have fixed this on the new module Cant wait to see That stopped a buddy of mine in his tracks on the xpl1's he didn't want to alter his cables nor use jumpers. I plug the Emotiva speaker cables into the binding posts from the side, works perfectly and also takes up less space at the rear. What a whimpy reason for missing out on one of the best power amps that Emotiva have made at unbeatable value for money. Cheers Gary |
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Post by assy74 on Sept 24, 2016 5:06:01 GMT -5
That stopped a buddy of mine in his tracks on the xpl1's he didn't want to alter his cables nor use jumpers. I plug the Emotiva speaker cables into the binding posts from the side, works perfectly and also takes up less space at the rear. What a whimpy reason for missing out on one of the best power amps that Emotiva have made at unbeatable value for money. Cheers Gary Not everybody use emotiva speaker kabels...... I am not breaking my expensive speaker kabels to make them fit..... The long distance between the binings posts are a big construction mistake if you ask me, and will be deal breaker for me if they dont fix it..... But thats just me! |
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Post by sahmen on Sept 24, 2016 10:36:27 GMT -5
Gen 3 monoblocks huh? Okay pop quiz: Why did these mono-blokes. cross the road? In order to go here?   |
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 24, 2016 15:46:35 GMT -5
I plug the Emotiva speaker cables into the binding posts from the side, works perfectly and also takes up less space at the rear. What a whimpy reason for missing out on one of the best power amps that Emotiva have made at unbeatable value for money. Not everybody use emotiva speaker kabels...... I am not breaking my expensive speaker kabels to make them fit..... The long distance between the binings posts are a big construction mistake if you ask me, and will be deal breaker for me if they dont fix it..... But thats just me! Whilst I haven't tried every single speaker cable on the market I have had a lot over time and I can't think of a single one that wouldn't fit sideways inserted. That's a reason (not the only reason) why binding posts have holes, for sideways insertion. I would add that it makes for a more solid connection as I tighten down the retainer on the plug, no chance of it being pulled out. It's a simple test, spread the legs of your speaker cables at 180 degrees and measure the extension. Cheers Gary |
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Post by junchoon on Sept 24, 2016 21:52:18 GMT -5
If the logic of rmc-1 holds, then gen3 monoblock should only have full balanced xlr input. Which I think is great idea.
Thanks.
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Post by roadwar on Oct 17, 2016 19:34:43 GMT -5
Wonder if they'll really put these modules in the big Gen 3 cabinets? There's going to be a lot of wasted space in each box with only one module per box?  I don't even have enough rack room for two of those. Since they've gone to the SMPS they may as well go one step further and go with light weight Class D in a smaller form factor. There, I've said it and I'm not sorry.  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 17, 2016 20:50:58 GMT -5
Wonder if they'll really put these modules in the big Gen 3 cabinets? There's going to be a lot of wasted space in each box with only one module per box? I don't even have enough rack room for two of those. Since they've gone to the SMPS they may as well go one step further and go with light weight Class D in a smaller form factor. There, I've said it and I'm not sorry. I'd like a modular Class D option as well, but in a smaller form factor, maybe 2U. In the Gen3 one mono blade is no different in wasted space than two (stereo) blades, so I don't see why not. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 17, 2016 20:51:57 GMT -5
I don't even have enough rack room for two of those. One does not put monoblocks in a rack  one locates them next to their respective speakers utilising long XLR interconnects and very short speaker cables  Cheers Gary |
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Post by garbulky on Oct 17, 2016 21:28:18 GMT -5
Gen 3 monoblocks huh? Okay pop quiz: Why did these mono-blokes. cross the road? In order to go here? Where did you get that last video? |
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Post by sahmen on Oct 17, 2016 22:13:11 GMT -5
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Post by cwt on Oct 18, 2016 0:56:13 GMT -5
Wonder if they'll really put these modules in the big Gen 3 cabinets? There's going to be a lot of wasted space in each box with only one module per box? I don't even have enough rack room for two of those. Since they've gone to the SMPS they may as well go one step further and go with light weight Class D in a smaller form factor. There, I've said it and I'm not sorry. +1 for a minimum 11ch class d in a small form factor ; would sell buckets The whole reason d'etre behind the large enclosure as mentioned in the past is to upgrade over time with more modules [as atmos;dts-x get better channel support perhaps]; pretty effective strategy as I too would want to fill up the empty space I cant see the quad differential modules being a true monoblock system as each would presumably be run of a winding of the SMPS like many multichannel amps out there ; maybe like this if it applies to a switch mode; www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-9/winding-configurations/ separate power supplies cost money .Having differential circuitry is a great match for the RMC1 but  |
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Post by leonski on Oct 31, 2016 2:14:58 GMT -5
Many B&O ICE modules come WITH on board PS. Other modules need an outboard PS or can be driven from power outs of a module WTIH PS.
Also, from B&O, the 'ICETheater' Line has a 7 channel amp / PS ON ONE BOARD. This makes it easier, in some ways, to design a HT receiver.
I don't know if a DIY guy can get at this amp.
The 'A' series has no PS but takes power from an ASP module of SAME or Higher power.
When you get to the AS / ASC series? The ASC is the one with onboard PS.
The ASX line ALL have onboard PS while some are even stereo / bridgeable. Not the Big Boy, though, which is mono only.
Personally? I'd NEVER sell anyone a module for self-install. Asking for All Kinds of trouble, from simple electrocution to burning down the house. Let the Lawsuits Begin!
I don't know that ANY of the Hypex UcD or NCore have onboard PS. I think they ALL need an outboard PS, either switcher or linear.
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Post by vneal on Oct 31, 2016 7:04:46 GMT -5
From Generation 3 mono blocks to Abby Road. The real answer is---they walked out of their studio to take a picture. There was a rumour that Paul was dead at the time
Abbey Road is the eleventh studio album by English rock band the Beatles, released on 26 September 1969 by Apple Records. The recording sessions for the album were the last in which all four Beatles participated. Although Let It Be was the final album that the Beatles completed before the band's dissolution in April 1970, most of the album had been recorded before the Abbey Road sessions began.[1] A double A-side single from the album, "Something"/"Come Together", released in October, topped the Billboard chart in the US.
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Post by roadwar on Oct 31, 2016 13:22:28 GMT -5
You know what I would love to see Emo do? Build new 600 watt monoblocks around Pascal class D modules in a small form factor and knock some of these other class D manufacturers right out! They could certainly do this very handily in their new Tennessee production facility IMO. Come on Emotiva, you know you want to!
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Post by vneal on Oct 31, 2016 14:27:38 GMT -5
You know what I would love to see Emo do? Build new 600 watt monoblocks around Pascal class D modules in a small form factor and knock some of these other class D manufacturers right out! They could certainly do this very handily in their new Tennessee production facility IMO. Come on Emotiva, you know you want to! D Sonic call it E Sonic |
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Post by Lonnie on Oct 31, 2016 14:54:49 GMT -5
Cal it the MPS Lonnie |
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Post by dwaleke on Oct 31, 2016 15:36:09 GMT -5
You know what I would love to see Emo do? Build new 600 watt monoblocks around Pascal class D modules in a small form factor and knock some of these other class D manufacturers right out! They could certainly do this very handily in their new Tennessee production facility IMO. Come on Emotiva, you know you want to! As long as they hit that power potential full range. 20-20khz. Many designs fall off <40hz. Pascal's 1500 watt module is one example. |
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Post by leonski on Oct 31, 2016 15:42:25 GMT -5
I just looked at one of the Pascal modules. You suffer a 20% to 30% reduction in power from a module CLEARLY optimized for non-US Standard 220vac. Efficiencies are right in line with other 'D' amps at the low 80s, with worse values for US voltages. NO long term power specified or even 30 second or 60 second max powers. Modules appear to be minimally heat sinked. And, in fairness to EMO, these guys ALSO rate a lot of powers 1% distortion. I'd guess minimal HEADROOM against rated power. Also, no frequency response data listed, especially since many 'D' amps suffer HF rolloff due to the output Zobel which get worse as impedance DROPS. Am I a 'D' amp hater? No. Just somebody who owned one for several years and eventually tired of it. |
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Post by roadwar on Oct 31, 2016 20:29:55 GMT -5
Can you tell I've been looking at the D-Sonic site a lot?  I'd be thrilled to see new 500-600 watt Emo monos on the new Emo architecture in a 2 rack unit size? I just don't have room for more huge cabinets. Sorry, guess I'm just repeating myself from above. I'll shut up and be nice.  |
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 31, 2016 20:41:53 GMT -5
I just don't have room for more huge cabinets. Sorry, guess I'm just repeating myself from above. I'll shut up and be nice. Nothing at all wrong with repeating oneself.............. One does not put monoblocks in a rack (or a huge cabinet) one locates them next to their respective speakers utilising long XLR interconnects and very short speaker cables Cheers Gary |
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I don't even have enough rack room for two of those. Since they've gone to the SMPS they may as well go one step further and go with light weight Class D in a smaller form factor. There, I've said it and I'm not sorry. 
one locates them next to their respective speakers utilising long XLR interconnects and very short speaker cables 
I'd be thrilled to see new 500-600 watt Emo monos on the new Emo architecture in a 2 rack unit size? I just don't have room for more huge cabinets. Sorry, guess I'm just repeating myself from above. I'll shut up and be nice. 
