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Post by Lonnie on Mar 10, 2017 16:19:58 GMT -5
I can't speak for the price, but the stereo (SM-1) modules will be in production in less then a month.
So they will be available very soon and that opens the door to 32 different variations.
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Post by klinemj on Mar 10, 2017 16:23:07 GMT -5
I can't speak for the price, but the stereo (SM-1) modules will be in production in less then a month. So they will be available very soon and that opens the door to 32 different variations. Your Amp, Your Way! Lonnie So, no "two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, on a sesame seed bun" approach, eh? I like it! Mark |
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Post by bigsam411 on Mar 10, 2017 16:52:52 GMT -5
I can't speak for the price, but the stereo (SM-1) modules will be in production in less then a month. So they will be available very soon and that opens the door to 32 different variations. Your Amp, Your Way! Lonnie Man I was hoping for 33 different configurations  . Anyways that is good news! I hope they are not too crazy of a price hike over the mono single wide modules. |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Mar 10, 2017 17:35:34 GMT -5
I was sort of thinking that we were getting close. After several months of seeing Lonnie on The Lounge very infrequently he suddenly started participating in lots of threads. Seemed like a sign that things were going well and he's enjoying a beer ... :-)
But by the way, "32 different variations"? For all of the legal mixtures of Single and Stereo Amplifier Blades in a seven slot cage, reducing all arrangements of the same number of single/stereo blades into a single variation, I only count 27. Even if we add the Double Wides in the other cage, that only adds up to a total of 30. Or am I just being pedantic? :-)
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Post by indyscammer on Mar 10, 2017 17:47:24 GMT -5
I was sort of thinking that we were getting close. After several months of seeing Lonnie on The Lounge very infrequently he suddenly started participating in lots of threads. Seemed like a sign that things were going well and he's enjoying a beer ... :-) But by the way, "32 different variations"? For all of the legal mixtures of Single and Stereo Amplifier Blades in a seven slot cage, reducing all arrangements of the same number of single/stereo blades into a single variation, I only count 27. Even if we add the Double Wides in the other cage, that only adds up to a total of 30. Or am I just being pedantic? :-) Casey Did you count the "less than full" variations? |
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 10, 2017 18:17:47 GMT -5
If they offered monoblocks, I come up with 35. But they don't. So I'm at like 33 I guess. Amp.xlsx (10.03 KB) Amp.pdf (22.5 KB) |
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 10, 2017 18:23:45 GMT -5
I can't speak for the price, but the stereo (SM-1) modules will be in production in less then a month. So they will be available very soon and that opens the door to 32 different variations. Your Amp, Your Way! Lonnie Hey Lonnie, Thanks for the info! Since you are reading this thread, any update on the production of the double wides? If not, no big deal, was just wondering. Thanks again. |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Mar 10, 2017 18:37:55 GMT -5
... But by the way, "32 different variations"? For all of the legal mixtures of Single and Stereo Amplifier Blades in a seven slot cage, reducing all arrangements of the same number of single/stereo blades into a single variation, I only count 27. Even if we add the Double Wides in the other cage, that only adds up to a total of 30. Or am I just being pedantic? :-) Did you count the "less than full" variations? Yep. It works out to 7x(7+1)/2 - 1 = 27. The "- 1" is to eliminate a completely empty case as a legitimate option. If you like I can show the proof. Casey |
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Post by Lonnie on Mar 10, 2017 22:00:40 GMT -5
I can't speak for the price, but the stereo (SM-1) modules will be in production in less then a month. So they will be available very soon and that opens the door to 32 different variations. Your Amp, Your Way! Lonnie Hey Lonnie, Thanks for the info! Since you are reading this thread, any update on the production of the double wides? If not, no big deal, was just wondering. Thanks again. Those will be going into production right behind the stereo module. We had a few last minute tweaks to finish on them, but they are done now. Lonnie |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Mar 11, 2017 2:01:57 GMT -5
Hey Lonnie, ... Since you are reading this thread, any update on the production of the double wides? If not, no big deal, was just wondering. Those will be going into production right behind the stereo module. We had a few last minute tweaks to finish on them, but they are done now. , were you involved in the MPS-1 at all? Just curious how you'd compare the MPS-1 against the XPA Gen3 line. I've been thinking of getting an XPA-3 Double-Wide Gen3 (or whatever the nomenclature will be) for my front three Legacies ... along with the RMC-1 of course! Casey |
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Post by mfeust on Mar 11, 2017 12:35:37 GMT -5
I can't speak for the price, but the stereo (SM-1) modules will be in production in less then a month. So they will be available very soon and that opens the door to 32 different variations. Your Amp, Your Way! Lonnie So, no "two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, on a sesame seed bun" approach, eh? I like it! Mark You missed pickles, onions. Mark |
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 11, 2017 13:30:55 GMT -5
So, no "two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, on a sesame seed bun" approach, eh? I like it! Mark You missed pickles, onions. Mark No he didn't. He was writing it "his" way.  |
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Post by junchoon on Mar 11, 2017 23:28:11 GMT -5
Hi
Does that mean I can custom configure a 3 double wide plus a single blade with 2ch on it? Making this a 5ch amp in total with super kick-ass front 3ch but not as great surround 2ch?
On a side note, Am I the only one who think stereo means 2 or more channels thus I avoid using it when I refer to system or components that is actually strictly 2ch? Unless I read the wiki article wrongly haha
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Post by repeetavx on Mar 12, 2017 1:20:06 GMT -5
KeithL made this comment about mixing types of blades:
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Post by junchoon on Mar 12, 2017 1:52:25 GMT -5
ah, too bad. hopefully Emotiva can tweak the design further to allow 3DblWide + singleBlade2ch
thanks.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Mar 12, 2017 2:57:37 GMT -5
I don't think you'd really want that. They've tuned the Switch Mode Power Supply to meet the needs of the different Amplifier Modules. I trust that they did their best to avoid this since it adds all sorts of development, testing, production, stocking, etc. costs. They must have felt that using a single SMS would be a compromise they didn't want. So, I think we're going to get a really rocking product.
Casey
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 13, 2017 8:41:26 GMT -5
Hey Lonnie, Thanks for the info! Since you are reading this thread, any update on the production of the double wides? If not, no big deal, was just wondering. Thanks again. Those will be going into production right behind the stereo module. We had a few last minute tweaks to finish on them, but they are done now. Lonnie Excellent! Thank you. |
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 13, 2017 9:50:42 GMT -5
Did you count the "less than full" variations? Yep. It works out to 7x(7+1)/2 - 1 = 27. The "- 1" is to eliminate a completely empty case as a legitimate option. If you like I can show the proof. Casey I believe while your math may be correct for amps with the mono 300 watt (Single) blades, it does not take into account amps that may only contain the 150 watt (Double or 2 channel) blades. I get 28 combinations for amps with at least 1 "single" mono blade. I also get another 7 using only the "double" stereo blade. So I get 35 total. BUT, since it appears they aren't doing units containing only one blade, we can remove at least 2. So I have 33. Either my number is flawed, Lonnie's is off slightly, OR, more likely, Emotiva isn't planning to produce another one of the theoretical options. My guess is they aren't going to build what would be options #1, 2 or 29 on my list in the thread above on this page. I am strongly considering selling my old Gen 1 XPA-2 and XPA-5 doing this: AMP #1 (3) 600 wpc DW blades for the front 3 channels AMP #2 (2) 300 wpc SW blades for the side surrounds (these speakers match my main's midrange cone size and will like more power) (5) 75 wpc x 2 STEREO blades (10 channels) for the rear surrounds (for which I have 4 speakers) and the .6 for Atmos / DTS:X (using only .4 for now since that's all that's around). |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Mar 13, 2017 12:29:59 GMT -5
I was folding combinations such as 212, 122, 221 into a single configuration. Since there are few enough, here are all of the combinations:
(Combinations x Slots Occupied by type of Amplifier Module):
1 x 0:
2 x 1: 1, 2
3 x 2: 11, 12, 22
4 x 3: 111, 112, 122, 222
5 x 4: 1111, 1112, 1122, 1222, 2222
6 x 5: 11111, 11112, 11122, 11222, 12222, 22222
7 x 6: 111111, 111112, 111122, 111222, 112222, 122222, 222222
8 x 7: 1111111, 1111112, 1111122, 1111222, 1112222, 1122222, 1222222, 2222222
The sum of 1, ..., N is N x (N + 1) / 2 (see below for proof). And if we want to suck off the empty case "1 x 0", then you have (N x (N + 1) / 2) - 1. For our case (no pun intended) we have (7 x (7 + 1)/2) - 1 == 27.
Casey
Sum(1, ..., N)
== [ Sum(1, ..., N) + Sum(N, ..., 1) ] / 2
== [ (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + N) + (N + ... + 3 + 2 + 1) ] / 2
== [ (N+1) + (N+1) + (N + 1) + ... + (N+1) ] / 2
== [ N x (N + 1) ] / 2
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 13, 2017 13:24:41 GMT -5
I was folding combinations such as 212, 122, 221 into a single configuration. Since there are few enough, here are all of the combinations: (Combinations x Slots Occupied by type of Amplifier Module): 1 x 0: 2 x 1: 1, 2 3 x 2: 11, 12, 22 4 x 3: 111, 112, 122, 222 5 x 4: 1111, 1112, 1122, 1222, 2222 6 x 5: 11111, 11112, 11122, 11222, 12222, 22222 7 x 6: 111111, 111112, 111122, 111222, 112222, 122222, 222222 8 x 7: 1111111, 1111112, 1111122, 1111222, 1112222, 1122222, 1222222, 2222222 The sum of 1, ..., N is N x (N + 1) / 2 (see below for proof). And if we want to suck off the empty case "1 x 0", then you have (N x (N + 1) / 2) - 1. For our case (no pun intended) we have (7 x (7 + 1)/2) - 1 == 27. Casey Sum(1, ..., N) == [ Sum(1, ..., N) + Sum(N, ..., 1) ] / 2 == [ (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + N) + (N + ... + 3 + 2 + 1) ] / 2 == [ (N+1) + (N+1) + (N + 1) + ... + (N+1) ] / 2 == [ N x (N + 1) ] / 2 Your math says 27, but your list says 35. My list says 35 also. 1 - 1 2 - 2 3 - 11 4 - 12 5 - 22 6 - 111 7 - 112 8 - 122 9 - 222 10 - 1111 11 - 1112 12 - 1122 13 - 1222 14 - 2222 15 - 11111 16 - 11112 17 - 11122 18 - 11222 19 - 12222 20 - 22222 21 - 111111 22 - 111112 23 - 111122 24 - 111222 25 - 112222 26 - 122222 27 - 222222 28 - 1111111 29 - 1111112 30 - 1111122 31 - 1111222 32 - 1112222 33 - 1122222 34 - 1222222 35 - 2222222 I did that type of math in high school and college and haven't had the need to ever use it since, until now. It was forgotten a long time ago, so I just made a list. |
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. Anyways that is good news! I hope they are not too crazy of a price hike over the mono single wide modules. 
