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Post by kse on Nov 5, 2016 9:51:12 GMT -5
Lol..... Gotta love it. OP list four (4) brands and every brand under the sun NOT listed gets recommended. Makes sense.....
(Yamaha)
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Post by sancho89 on Nov 5, 2016 10:04:29 GMT -5
the prices sure are attractive. but I'm Canadian eh. I'm Canadian too but I live in the US now. Not sure how A4Less works for Canada shipping, or if they do. I've always wanted to do that, live in the US. LA is one of my favorite cities. |
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Post by sancho89 on Nov 5, 2016 10:05:46 GMT -5
I have never come across audio qualities in a budget receiver so I would choose silence. I would actually love to add that as an option. don't think I can now though. |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 5, 2016 10:07:49 GMT -5
I have never come across audio qualities in a budget receiver so I would choose silence. "I have never come across audio qualities in a budget receiver so I would choose silence." Im sure you meant to say "audio qualities" that YOU approve of.   |
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Post by sancho89 on Nov 5, 2016 10:09:31 GMT -5
I wish Emotiva would bring back receivers, or a budget processor priced at $399. with shipping and duties and the poor Canadian dollar, it would be about $688 CAD total. which will be great.
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Post by creimes on Nov 5, 2016 10:27:28 GMT -5
Check out these guys as well, they are located in Ontario and it's where I got my Epson 3500 from as they were $400 cheaper than anywhere local I could buy it. Oh and I was only recommending Anthem before I seen your budget haha www.eastporters.com/product-category/audio/receivers/ |
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Post by Dan Laufman on Nov 5, 2016 10:49:21 GMT -5
So, here's a question....
Is there a market for a quality, great sounding, and affordable 7.1 receiver without Atmos/DTS-X from Emotiva? Or is that market looking for 5.1? Don't laugh... the vast majority of 7.1 receivers are used in 2.0, 2.1, 3.1 or 5.1 modes... not 7.1.
Or is it all Atmos/DTS-x now? Not sure...
Basically it would be BasX MC-700 with internal amplifiers...
Would $799.00 be too much for 7.1?? $599.00 for 5.1?
Just curious...
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Post by teaman on Nov 5, 2016 11:02:40 GMT -5
So, here's a question.... Is there a market for a quality, great sounding, and affordable 7.1 receiver without Atmos/DTS-X from Emotiva? Or is that market looking for 5.1? Don't laugh... the vast majority of 7.1 receivers are used in 2.0, 2.1, 3.1 or 5.1 modes... not 7.1. Or is it all Atmos/DTS-x now? Not sure... Basically it would be BasX MC-700 with internal amplifiers... Would $799.00 be too much for 7.1?? $599.00 for 5.1? Just curious... I absolutely love my Sherbourn SR-120 receivers I got when Emotiva and Sherbourn merged. I have four of the SR-120's in service and honestly I hear very little if any difference going back and forth between the SR-120 and my XPA-2/XPA-5/Sherbourn PT-7020-C4 set up. I know of at least three people that would jump on something like that right now. With the possibility of the same quality receiver with Atmos/DTS-X I would think you would be swamped with orders. Not everyone wants a huge rack of equipment. I think it would be a great idea Dan. Even a replacement for the Fusion receiver you previously offered up would be a welcome addition. Tim |
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Post by kse on Nov 5, 2016 11:14:57 GMT -5
So, here's a question.... Is there a market for a quality, great sounding, and affordable 7.1 receiver without Atmos/DTS-X from Emotiva? Or is that market looking for 5.1? Don't laugh... the vast majority of 7.1 receivers are used in 2.0, 2.1, 3.1 or 5.1 modes... not 7.1. Or is it all Atmos/DTS-x now? Not sure... Basically it would be BasX MC-700 with internal amplifiers... Would $799.00 be too much for 7.1?? $599.00 for 5.1? Just curious... Purely going on what I see with second hand receivers/pros; it seems that there is very little interest in anything non-Atmos capable. I know there is a huge segment of HT enthusiasts who are still 5.1 or 7.1, and for those folks, it is a buyers market because as mentioned, anything non-Atmos must practically be given away. In fact, even the early Atmos capable stuff like the original 7702 as seen in my sig are barely pulling $0.30 on the dollar compared to original retail. I recently sold a literally like-new Yamaha 7.2 receiver with pre-outs, all original box, accessories, etc. for a give-away price of $100. So I guess it's a tough call..... |
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Post by yeeeha17 on Nov 5, 2016 11:27:50 GMT -5
I don't think consumers going to touch anything NEW without Atmos/DTS-x or the next greatest and latest codec, unless it's for a second system
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Post by yves on Nov 5, 2016 11:41:38 GMT -5
So, here's a question.... Is there a market for a quality, great sounding, and affordable 7.1 receiver without Atmos/DTS-X from Emotiva? Or is that market looking for 5.1? Don't laugh... the vast majority of 7.1 receivers are used in 2.0, 2.1, 3.1 or 5.1 modes... not 7.1. Or is it all Atmos/DTS-x now? Not sure... Basically it would be BasX MC-700 with internal amplifiers... Would $799.00 be too much for 7.1?? $599.00 for 5.1? Just curious... Maybe this will sound like a strange analogy, but upgrading the digital inputs, the decoders, and the internal DAC section in a receiver should be easier than putting a new GPU card inside a Windows PC that people use to play videogames on IMO. Being able to keep your analog preamp section as well as your power amp section kind of compares to buying a new camera without having to necessarily also include a new lens, or like buying a new separate DAC every 3 years whilst keeping your speakers for 12 years or longer so I hate to throw away a perfectly good internal (pre)amp section. |
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Post by jlafrenz on Nov 5, 2016 11:54:37 GMT -5
So, here's a question.... Is there a market for a quality, great sounding, and affordable 7.1 receiver without Atmos/DTS-X from Emotiva? Or is that market looking for 5.1? Don't laugh... the vast majority of 7.1 receivers are used in 2.0, 2.1, 3.1 or 5.1 modes... not 7.1. Or is it all Atmos/DTS-x now? Not sure... Basically it would be BasX MC-700 with internal amplifiers... Would $799.00 be too much for 7.1?? $599.00 for 5.1? Just curious... I think that if you come to market with a 7.1 AVR that it needs to be able to be configured to do ATMOS in a 5.1.2 just to be competitive feature wise with what the mass market AVR's are doing. People are likely buying these types of AVR's at the box stores and when they see that one has more features, they probably tend to gravitate towards it even if they don't need or even know what some of the features are. It is perceived value to the customer. It is almost a situation where, if you can't beat them, join them. |
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Post by sancho89 on Nov 5, 2016 12:07:06 GMT -5
I think the market would be non-audiophiles. which is most of the people I know. I usually recommend Emotiva to them, but the cost is a little too much for them. I myself would almost always choose Emotiva.
I don't think non-audiophiles care about atmos/dts-x. but I could wrong.
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Post by sancho89 on Nov 5, 2016 12:09:12 GMT -5
BasX MC-700 at $599 is a great price. I should've waited for that to come out, rather than get the denon.
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Post by creimes on Nov 5, 2016 12:52:49 GMT -5
BasX MC-700 at $599 is a great price. I should've waited for that to come out, rather than get the denon. I think the MC-700 is just a processor. |
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Post by sancho89 on Nov 5, 2016 12:55:26 GMT -5
BasX MC-700 at $599 is a great price. I should've waited for that to come out, rather than get the denon. I think the MC-700 is just a processor. Yep. But could always get a used emotiva amp at a lower cost too. |
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Post by creimes on Nov 5, 2016 12:56:55 GMT -5
So, here's a question.... Is there a market for a quality, great sounding, and affordable 7.1 receiver without Atmos/DTS-X from Emotiva? Or is that market looking for 5.1? Don't laugh... the vast majority of 7.1 receivers are used in 2.0, 2.1, 3.1 or 5.1 modes... not 7.1. Or is it all Atmos/DTS-x now? Not sure... Basically it would be BasX MC-700 with internal amplifiers... Would $799.00 be too much for 7.1?? $599.00 for 5.1? Just curious... I think that if you come to market with a 7.1 AVR that it needs to be able to be configured to do ATMOS in a 5.1.2 just to be competitive feature wise with what the mass market AVR's are doing. People are likely buying these types of AVR's at the box stores and when they see that one has more features, they probably tend to gravitate towards it even if they don't need or even know what some of the features are. It is perceived value to the customer. It is almost a situation where, if you can't beat them, join them. There are a few of us that would run a receiver in a second system that had more to do with SQ than all the features most don't need like streaming and such but the masses tend to want the latest gear that has the all the extras in it, I owned the Fusion 8100 and IMO was one of the sweetest looking receivers one could buy, I'm not sure why Emotiva didn't have a replacement for it  Chad |
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Post by knucklehead on Nov 5, 2016 13:47:22 GMT -5
I don't think consumers going to touch anything NEW without Atmos/DTS-x or the next greatest and latest codec, unless it's for a second system In this forum and audio forums around the internet there is a lot of interest in Atmos. Ask the average person on the street if he/she likes Atmos or just vanilla Dolby, I think you'll get a lot of blank stares. The average person has no clue what Atmos is - and many don't even know what Dolby or DTS is. 4K video also draws a blank. I have zero interest in Atmos. I have a 5.1 setup when I want to use it. 90% or more of the time I'm listening to 2 channel. |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 5, 2016 14:04:35 GMT -5
I don't think consumers going to touch anything NEW without Atmos/DTS-x or the next greatest and latest codec, unless it's for a second system In this forum and audio forums around the internet there is a lot of interest in Atmos. Ask the average person on the street if he/she likes Atmos or just vanilla Dolby, I think you'll get a lot of blank stares. The average person has no clue what Atmos is - and many don't even know what Dolby or DTS is. 4K video also draws a blank. I have zero interest in Atmos. I have a 5.1 setup when I want to use it. 90% or more of the time I'm listening to 2 channel.  |
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Post by kse on Nov 5, 2016 14:15:53 GMT -5
I don't think consumers going to touch anything NEW without Atmos/DTS-x or the next greatest and latest codec, unless it's for a second system In this forum and audio forums around the internet there is a lot of interest in Atmos. Ask the average person on the street if he/she likes Atmos or just vanilla Dolby, I think you'll get a lot of blank stares. The average person has no clue what Atmos is - and many don't even know what Dolby or DTS is. 4K video also draws a blank. True, but if the average person on the street doesn't know what Atmos is, even less will know who/what Emotiva is. Those folks are running to Best Buy and buying whatever's on sale. |
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