butchgo
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Post by butchgo on Nov 7, 2016 21:11:38 GMT -5
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Post by teaman on Nov 7, 2016 21:32:19 GMT -5
I love following to see all these new designs he comes up with. I wish I was close to him so I could pop in and hear some.
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Post by audiophill on Nov 7, 2016 22:22:58 GMT -5
I asked on here last week about that new sub. I also asked Eric about it, the designer. He said it has two 8 inch drivers on the bottom and a singer 18 inch driver on top powered by a 1600 watt amp built in. Now back in my car audio days I had 7 10 inch drivers and eight 8 inch drivers in the back of a GMC Jimmy made a wall. Anyway the 10 inch drivers cancelled out the 8 inch drivers so in Eric's new design wouldn't the 18 inch driver cancel out the two eights?
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stiehl11
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Post by stiehl11 on Nov 7, 2016 22:37:38 GMT -5
From the website:
So, when you pluck a Fender Jazz bass' E, how do you hear it? Last time I played my Yamaha or Ibanez bass guitars without amplification I doubt anyone but me would have heard it in a dead quiet room. Put me with a group or even solo in a coffee shop and even I wouldn't be able to hear it. I've played Fender Jazz basses and they're no different in that regard, so it's nothing special to Fenders. The point is that, while nothing in the quote is necessarily wrong, the music played (by the musician), recorded (by the sound engineer), and played back (on the studio speakers) doesn't use this technology. Therefore, if there was any difference in the sound quality, it would not be what was played, recorded, or intended by the musician or the recording engineer; which is not what an audiophile looks for in their sound reproduction.
My guess is that it won't sound terribly different than other subs of this quality. But the marketing will make you think differently.
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Post by pedrocols on Nov 7, 2016 23:32:02 GMT -5
So basically the closest speaker desing to a guitar string is a Magnepan speaker. No wonder they sound soooo real...
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Post by redcoat23 on Nov 8, 2016 2:11:47 GMT -5
Isn't the point about oscillating mass that one is using inertia to continue to move (you pluck, it vibrates) and the other uses electricity? A speaker cone may well be heavier, but electricity is producing the vibration - it doesn't send a single pulse and let mass do the rest. For the duration of the tone, electricity is moving the mass - i.e in control. Providing you have the 'grip' on the driver, the speed and rate of change can be matched. Now one is a very different shape to the other and connected to a very different air cavity I'll grant you. However I don't buy the weight difference because you're comparing apples and coconuts, let alone oranges IMHO.
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Post by vneal on Nov 8, 2016 9:37:33 GMT -5
I am impressed with this speaker line
Lots of bang for the buck
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Post by audiophill on Nov 8, 2016 10:13:35 GMT -5
The Tekton brilliance are awesome, I love them. I love them so much so I am debating on selling my PSA Triax 8000 watt triple 15" sub to get the new Tekton sub painted the same ford gt 40 dark blue metallic as are my brilliance. I would love to keep the same line and have the color match but to get rid of a proven limited epic sub for the unknown scares me especially since to me I would think the 18" driver would cancel out the two 8" driver's in Tektons new 1600 watt sub.
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Post by pedrocols on Nov 8, 2016 10:41:25 GMT -5
The Tekton brilliance are awesome, I love them. I love them so much so I am debating on selling my PSA Triax 8000 watt triple 15" sub to get the new Tekton sub painted the same ford gt 40 dark blue metallic as are my brilliance. I would love to keep the same line and have the color match but to get rid of a proven limited epic sub for the unknown scares me especially since to me I would think the 18" driver would cancel out the two 8" driver's in Tektons new 1600 watt sub. I am pretty sure you won't noticed much difference if either subwoofer is properly set. |
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Post by simpleman68 on Nov 8, 2016 11:57:42 GMT -5
The Tekton brilliance are awesome, I love them. I love them so much so I am debating on selling my PSA Triax 8000 watt triple 15" sub to get the new Tekton sub painted the same ford gt 40 dark blue metallic as are my brilliance. I would love to keep the same line and have the color match but to get rid of a proven limited epic sub for the unknown scares me especially since to me I would think the 18" driver would cancel out the two 8" driver's in Tektons new 1600 watt sub. I am pretty sure you won't noticed much difference if either subwoofer is properly set. Nonsense, he'll hear a HUGE difference and should put that PSA up for sale immediately. I even know a guy that will buy it today. *heh heh* Scott |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 8, 2016 12:21:38 GMT -5
The Tekton brilliance are awesome, I love them. I love them so much so I am debating on selling my PSA Triax 8000 watt triple 15" sub to get the new Tekton sub painted the same ford gt 40 dark blue metallic as are my brilliance. I would love to keep the same line and have the color match but to get rid of a proven limited epic sub for the unknown scares me especially since to me I would think the 18" driver would cancel out the two 8" driver's in Tektons new 1600 watt sub. The 8 inch probably won't cancel the 18. That's probably the first thing he thought about. However....what are you nuts?!? You got a PSA Triax. If anything go for a second subwoofer to get stereo subs. But don't sell off the PSA! It puts out ungodly amounts of power. |
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Post by Wideawake on Nov 8, 2016 13:14:24 GMT -5
I asked on here last week about that new sub. I also asked Eric about it, the designer. He said it has two 8 inch drivers on the bottom and a singer 18 inch driver on top powered by a 1600 watt amp built in. Now back in my car audio days I had 7 10 inch drivers and eight 8 inch drivers in the back of a GMC Jimmy made a wall. Anyway the 10 inch drivers cancelled out the 8 inch drivers so in Eric's new design wouldn't the 18 inch driver cancel out the two eights? You probably had one set of drivers wired out of phase for cancellation to occur in the same plane. Re the Tekton sub, I would worry about the horrendous group delays that is likely to occur given that he has a port for each driver. This can be minimized to a certain extent if he has each driver in a separate acoustically sealed chamber along with a steep crossover to separate the frequency bandwidth between the 8s and the 18. Even with that, it would be difficult to band limit within the already narrow bandwidth of a subwoofer. I would ask for design details along with a frequency plot for the sub before you decide to buy. If my assumption above is correct then the massive group delays and related distortion will also make this sub difficult to integrate within your system. EDIT: Time alignment between the 8s and the 18 might also cause combing. |
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Post by milsap195 on Nov 8, 2016 14:27:16 GMT -5
I asked on here last week about that new sub. I also asked Eric about it, the designer. He said it has two 8 inch drivers on the bottom and a singer 18 inch driver on top powered by a 1600 watt amp built in. Now back in my car audio days I had 7 10 inch drivers and eight 8 inch drivers in the back of a GMC Jimmy made a wall. Anyway the 10 inch drivers cancelled out the 8 inch drivers so in Eric's new design wouldn't the 18 inch driver cancel out the two eights? Have you heard anything about the Double Impact? |
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Post by audiophill on Nov 8, 2016 14:39:30 GMT -5
I asked on here last week about that new sub. I also asked Eric about it, the designer. He said it has two 8 inch drivers on the bottom and a singer 18 inch driver on top powered by a 1600 watt amp built in. Now back in my car audio days I had 7 10 inch drivers and eight 8 inch drivers in the back of a GMC Jimmy made a wall. Anyway the 10 inch drivers cancelled out the 8 inch drivers so in Eric's new design wouldn't the 18 inch driver cancel out the two eights? Have you heard anything about the Double Impact? I like the brilliance much better than the double impact! The cheaper pendragons are louder than the double impact. That being said my buddy who has the double impacts wants to sell them already! I love the brilliance though! |
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Post by adaboy on Nov 8, 2016 18:32:30 GMT -5
Have you heard anything about the Double Impact? I like the brilliance much better than the double impact! The cheaper pendragons are louder than the double impact. That being said my buddy who has the double impacts wants to sell them already! I love the brilliance though! What were your impressions on the DI's? Curious what they sounded like to you? Thanks |
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Post by jdubs on Nov 9, 2016 13:30:48 GMT -5
Have you heard anything about the Double Impact? I like the brilliance much better than the double impact! The cheaper pendragons are louder than the double impact. That being said my buddy who has the double impacts wants to sell them already! I love the brilliance though! What is it about the Double Impact that he/you do not like? I talked to Eric, and he said it is the best sounding speaker he has made. Obviously, you need a room big enough, though. What is it about the brilliance you love so much? Have you heard the Pendragons and how do they compare? |
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Post by audiophill on Nov 9, 2016 13:44:16 GMT -5
I have given my review of the brillance on this site and also Eric posted it to his testimonial page. Bottom line is they are the best sounding speaker I have heard period! I won't comment anymore on the double impact as I don't want to talk negative about them. We just don't like them. They just don't sound right! I would save some money and go with the pendragons for a large room. Small to medium size room wow are the brillance awesome!
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 9, 2016 14:16:25 GMT -5
My fave Tekton is the one that I've neither room nor money for - The mighty 1812!!!
But in the meantime, I must say that my Pendragons are da schizz!
And the room now is perfectly set up for them, so they're singing sweetly.
There are more expensive speakers, but for my room, the Tekton Pendragons are really something. YMMV...
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Post by C on Dec 11, 2016 18:47:39 GMT -5
Audiophill....interesting. More than a few guys who know their stuff are all over the DI's. Wonder if it was the room or electronics or something that had them sounding wrong. I don't doubt your ears... Audio systems are a pain. Lol. Jdubs, cuz you never know - I say get what you want. Talk with Eric, but if room can support the DI's and you want them? I say do it. There's never telling, not when it comes down to it, how it's going to sound when it's your room, with your electronics, your music, and your taste. Pens are probably a safe bet, but sometimes you don't want a safe bet. Lol. Just be sure you keep the boxes for a while.  You don't like them, lose a few bucks in shipping - it's ok. Treat yourself fully. Gas is $80 a tank. $300-400 loss in shipping you won't miss in 6 months, to have what works best, is worth it, dude. |
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Post by C on Dec 11, 2016 18:50:13 GMT -5
Especially since AudioPhill didn't site something specific. It wasn't, "The lows sucked," or, "Imaging was all over the place." It was a something that wasn't right. Could be the speakers, but could be room...
Dunno'.
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You don't like them, lose a few bucks in shipping - it's ok.