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Post by adaboy on Jul 15, 2017 9:48:13 GMT -5
Did you get your other T2 yet? Yes, it got here Wednesday. And I must say I'm very happy with them. Fantastic! What would you say they do very well, good, and not so good? |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 15, 2017 10:03:23 GMT -5
Did you get your other T2 yet? Yes, it got here Wednesday. And I must say I'm very happy with them. Geebo... how do they compare to your ERT's...? I so badly want to try these out, but really don't want the expense of having to ship them back if they're not much of an improvement over what I already have. I know you have the ERT's and would love to hear your thoughts...  |
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Post by geebo on Jul 15, 2017 10:09:56 GMT -5
Yes, it got here Wednesday. And I must say I'm very happy with them. Fantastic! What would you say they do very well, good, and not so good? The top end with the AMT is very clear and articulate. The bass extends down to 30Hz easily in my room. I have them about 1' away from the back wall and I was concerned about boominess and while the bass was a bit overbearing with that placement it was easily tamed with EQ (Dirac or the XMC PEQ). I still prefer using my twin ULS15MKII subs but the T2 can handle the bass quite well. They could easily run without a sub if your not looking for 20Hz response. They also look much better than a 2D picture could hope convey. What impressed me most was the top end and the bass extension but that's not to say there is anything wrong with the midrange. It's very good indeed but so were my 8.3s. |
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Post by geebo on Jul 15, 2017 10:15:11 GMT -5
Yes, it got here Wednesday. And I must say I'm very happy with them. Geebo... how do they compare to your ERT's...? I so badly want to try these out, but really don't want the expense of having to ship them back if they're not much of an improvement over what I already have. I know you have the ERT's and would love to hear your thoughts... I loved my 8.3s and had them about 5 years. They do a lot very well. The T2s have a clearer more detailed top end and the bass has greater extension but may be more dependent on placement for the smoothest response if not using any RC or EQ. I have them currently set at an 80Hz crossover but I'm still playing with that number. They're not going back. |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 15, 2017 10:24:05 GMT -5
Geebo... how do they compare to your ERT's...? I so badly want to try these out, but really don't want the expense of having to ship them back if they're not much of an improvement over what I already have. I know you have the ERT's and would love to hear your thoughts... I loved my 8.3s and had them about 5 years. They do a lot very well. The T2s have a clearer more detailed top end and the bass has greater extension but may be more dependent on placement for the smoothest response if not using any RC or EQ. I have them currently set at an 80Hz crossover but I'm still playing with that number. They're not going back. Thanks...!!! Would love to hear your thoughts once you've gotten them optimized and have had some time to do some extended listening...  |
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Post by peterr on Jul 15, 2017 16:20:28 GMT -5
Hi
I am going to refresh my 5.1 Home Theater setup this fall, the speakers I'm planning to get is a pair of T2s, a C1 and a pair of E1s.
The question is how to drive the T2s. I currently have a UPA-5 so I am thinking about either getting a A-300 for the T2s, OR getting a A-150 for the E1s and Bi-Amp the T2s with the UPA-5.
What do you guys think would be the better option, I would of course rather have an XPA driving them, but as of now it is out of my budget.
If I remember correctly the UPA-5 can deliver 185w per channel in 4ohms, how well does Bi-amping work? or will I be better of just getting a A-300?
Hope you guys have some good thoughts/insights!
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Post by garbulky on Jul 15, 2017 16:40:42 GMT -5
peterr Do you mean UPA-5 or UPA-500? The UPA-500 has the same power as the A-500. The UPA-5 has a lot more power than the A_500 or the upa-500. If you have the UPA-5 use the UPA-5, it is very powerful and a really nice amp! Don't go buying the new A -series. They are a downgrade imo from the UPA-5. With upa-5 don't bother bi amping. Just hook all your speakers up to it.
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Post by peterr on Jul 15, 2017 16:59:41 GMT -5
Yeah it's an old UPA-5. But will 185w be enough to get all the oomph out of the T2s?
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Post by novisnick on Jul 15, 2017 17:03:41 GMT -5
Hi I am going to refresh my 5.1 Home Theater setup this fall, the speakers I'm planning to get is a pair of T2s, a C1 and a pair of E1s. The question is how to drive the T2s. I currently have a UPA-5 so I am thinking about either getting a A-300 for the T2s, OR getting a A-150 for the E1s and Bi-Amp the T2s with the UPA-5. What do you guys think would be the better option, I would of course rather have an XPA driving them, but as of now it is out of my budget. If I remember correctly the UPA-5 can deliver 185w per channel in 4ohms, how well does Bi-amping work? or will I be better of just getting a A-300? Hope you guys have some good thoughts/insights!
Once again, welcome to the nuthouse! 😋
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Post by peterr on Jul 15, 2017 17:16:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome!
Well the prepro is my old faithful UMC-1, my room is ~3.5m x 7.0m so about 25m2.
Usage is about 60% Movies/Series and 40% 2ch Music
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 15, 2017 17:26:27 GMT -5
Yeah it's an old UPA-5. But will 185w be enough to get all the oomph out of the T2s? The T2's are pretty efficient. You should have no problem driving them with the UPA-5. If you wanted something more, you would definitely have to venture into the XPA series amps. Anything in the BasX line would be a downgrade. |
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Post by vcautokid on Jul 15, 2017 17:37:28 GMT -5
I very much want to hear them. I heard the T1s and they are amazing. I can only how much more the T2s are.
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Post by garbulky on Jul 15, 2017 17:44:26 GMT -5
Yeah it's an old UPA-5. But will 185w be enough to get all the oomph out of the T2s? You want oomphh it's not going to be the a-series amps. The step up to the UPA-5 is an XPA-5 or an XPA-2 gen 2. Or if you want an even bigger (expensive) step up it's a XPA-1 gen 2. The a-series are definitely not what I would go for if you have a UPA-5. The UPA-5 has 5 XPA-5 blades on it. The A series have a single amp blade for all five channels. The UPA-5 also has a much larger power transformer and more capacitance than the A series amps. More importantly usually it's the front two or three channels that take up the power. The rear surrounds are coasting. The UPA-5 will use the extra unused power from the other channels and send it to where it's needed. So what that means is you are getting more than 185 watts in to the speakers that need it. Just try your UPA-5. I think you'd be very surprised |
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Post by peterr on Jul 15, 2017 18:03:15 GMT -5
Ok thanks for the input!! will run with my UPA-5 and maybe put away some cash for an eventual upgrade to an XPA model.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 15, 2017 18:05:51 GMT -5
Ok thanks for the input!! will run with my UPA-5 and maybe put away some cash for an eventual upgrade to an XPA model. I agree, no rush at this time. Save some coin and enjoy! 👍🎶🎶🎶🎶 |
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Post by geebo on Jul 15, 2017 18:08:38 GMT -5
The UPA-5 will have no trouble driving the T2s in an average room to satisfying levels.
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Post by kopkiwi on Jul 16, 2017 18:29:29 GMT -5
I'd love to know how these would measure up to some Monitor Audio GX200. I've got that upgrade itch.
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Post by brubacca on Jul 17, 2017 6:32:45 GMT -5
I'd love to know how these would measure up to some Monitor Audio GX200. I've got that upgrade itch. Me too. Heard some Gold 300 recently. If the T2 is close I'd pull the trigger quickly. Never going to have $4k+ for speakers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 10:40:36 GMT -5
@roryb , An hints as to if the voicing on the C2 and T2 will allow them to blend with the T1 used as surrounds, or better to keep all x1 or all x2 and go with B1/2 or E1/2 for surrounds? All of the Airmotiv series speakers feature the same tweeter for timbre matching across the range, and the voicing of all units is as 'flat' as possible, so the voicing of all units will be complementary by design and you can mix and match throughout the range. The only caution is that you can create combinations of speakers that have very different dynamic capabilities (some can play louder than others) so you might exhaust the performance reserves of some of the speakers before the others. You can certainly use the T1 speakers as surrounds with a system that has T2 and C2 speakers, and this is the configuration we used at AXPONA 2017 to demonstrate a statement-level home theater system featuring Airmotiv speakers and subwoofers. Best regards, Rory Buszka Emotiva Engineering |
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Post by rbk123 on Jul 17, 2017 10:51:49 GMT -5
Ok thanks for the input!! will run with my UPA-5 and maybe put away some cash for an eventual upgrade to an XPA model. The UPA-5 is a great amp; don't waste money upgrading it. Save your money to upgrade your pre/pro from the UMC-1. You will get far more bang for your buck than upgrading the amp. |
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