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Post by Axis on Aug 8, 2017 17:05:54 GMT -5
A pair of Emotiva Airmotiv T2's connected to a Emotiva UPA-2 amplifier with Emotiva X-Series speaker cables. Emotiva UPA-2 amplifier full gain to Emotiva USP-1 preamp with Emotiva X-Series interconnects. Source is Emotiva ERC-1 cd player connected to Emotiva USP-1 preamp with Emotiva X-Series interconnects.
Speakers are 5 foot from rear wall with right speaker 4 foot from right side wall and left speaker 6 foot from left side wall. Speakers are 5 foot apart measured at the center point of those beautiful midrange driver solid aluminum phase plugs. Speaker toe-in angle is 1 1/2 inches.
The Yes Album is playing and the speakers have been in service for 20 minutes.
They sound wonderful and I am happy.
Thank you for reading my review and if have $1000 and room for these big Emotiva Airmotiv T2 speakers you will be happy too.
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Post by Axis on Aug 8, 2017 18:35:21 GMT -5
T2's like toe-in, plenty of space between them and room behind them. These are not small towers. At 4 Ohms and 91 db efficiency my little UPA-2 drives them with no problem. Of course Emotiva amps are designed to operate at higher output at 4 ohms. There have been comments online that a cheep AV receiver may not drive them properly. I wonder about that.
Doing the knuckle knock there is little low note at the top woofer but I do not think there is lack of bracing in the speaker. The thick front panel is awesome.
Being so tall I screwed all the spikes in all the way and I do not think there is any need to tilt them.
Speaker terminals are very good quality and take my Emotiva X-Series spade lugs spot on.
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Post by hemster on Aug 8, 2017 19:14:05 GMT -5
...Being so tall I screwed all the spikes in all the way and I do not think there is any need to tilt them. Tilting or not depends on the height of the speakers as well as the position of the tweeter to ear-level at the listening position, not to mention individual preferences! The nice thing about having spikes it you can adjust the tilt amount to a granular level by screwing in the rear spikes.
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Post by Axis on Aug 8, 2017 19:34:46 GMT -5
...Being so tall I screwed all the spikes in all the way and I do not think there is any need to tilt them. Tilting or not depends on the height of the speakers as well as the position of the tweeter to ear-level at the listening position, not to mention individual preferences! The nice thing about having spikes it you can adjust the tilt amount to a granular level by screwing in the rear spikes. They are plenty tall Hemster. I got these speakers over the T1's when I heard about them because I wanted speakers that I could listen to at lower volume and still get the low end. With the spikes provided your not going to get any real tilt. I am getting the IsoAcoustics GAIA Speaker Isolation feet for them. You will need something other than the small spikes provided to tilt them. You could use the supplied rubber feet on one side along with the spikes supplied to tilt them one way or the other. Still they are plenty tall that sitting the tweeter is ear level or higher and standing the tweeter is pretty high and sounds good. This is a good thing for a speaker.
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Post by Axis on Aug 8, 2017 19:51:30 GMT -5
These T2's have a sound stage that is good when separated a good distance. I just put them on my long wall about 10 feet apart and sounded good. A speaker like the Magnepans make a excellent sound stage but you have to be in just the right spot. These speakers Wow'd at Axpona 2017 in a big room.
I used to always find a big room to crank my big speakers to find out if they play good in a big room. You need to have a strong amp but your not shooting for volume level. Some speakers are good when pushed in a big room and shine when you give them room to breath.
I think the T2's may be good in a big room.
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Post by Axis on Aug 10, 2017 18:31:09 GMT -5
Big sound and sound stage. Speakers much farther apart. Midrange driver is awesome !
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Post by woofman on Aug 12, 2017 9:02:53 GMT -5
I recently purchased the A-700 and MC-700 for my 14' x 16' room I'm setting up for watching movies and listening to music. Other than the lack of information on setting them up, they seem to be a good choice. Maybe even better once I figure them out. Right now I'm listening to them with a stacked set of old large Advents which sound great, but I'm yearning for a more modern speaker system. I was leaning toward purchasing a pair of T1's, but when the T2's were announced, I thought I'd wait for some reviews before making any decisions. So far, I can't locate anything related to them. I would have expected a lot of fanfare considering how well the T1's have been reviewed. Did these trip out of the starting gate for some reason?
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Post by novisnick on Aug 12, 2017 9:42:50 GMT -5
I recently purchased the A-700 and MC-700 for my 14' x 16' room I'm setting up for watching movies and listening to music. Other than the lack of information on setting them up, they seem to be a good choice. Maybe even better once I figure them out. Right now I'm listening to them with a stacked set of old large Advents which sound great, but I'm yearning for a more modern speaker system. I was leaning toward purchasing a pair of T1's, but when the T2's were announced, I thought I'd wait for some reviews before making any decisions. So far, I can't locate anything related to them. I would have expected a lot of fanfare considering how well the T1's have been reviewed. Did these trip out of the starting gate for some reason? Welcome woofman , love your Avitar. Your room is the same size as mine and very large towers (T2) would most likely be too large for you. I have large tower and find that they need much more "breathing " room to sound there best. I auditioned them in a much bigger room and fell in love with their sound but took no consideration into the size of the room they were going into. Yes, a mistake for the short term but when I move them to my larger room Ill be in heaven. From all that Ive read Both T1 & T2 sound great but the larger T2 needs a larger room. Having the ability to pull the speaker off the side and back walls would be the goal for best sound and imaging. The T2's with their 8" woofers should eliminate a need for a subwoofer for stereo. Hope this helps and im sure some of the other members hear will drop by and say help as well as their advice. Lots of smart friends here. Have fun and hang out for awhile. Nick
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Post by etanner on Aug 12, 2017 10:47:19 GMT -5
They sure look nice. Pls do tell of sound experience when you have a chance "Initially I'm pleased with more tight bass than I had hoped for. I'm selling my Klipsch surround sound setup including their SW 12 so replacing that sense of bass foundation was a concern for me but with the symphonic and chamber music I've listened to so far I'm pleased. I need to experiment with placement because I'm have noticed more on a couple of tracks than previously which makes me wonder about secondary room effects. Acoustic and vocals are sublime. Miles Davis, Eric Clapton and Cream, and various blues sets just invite you in. I've got plans for a power amp (or two) in the near future so lots of changes will unfold." Since setting up the T2s my system has been moved, appended, tweaked, and enjoyed more than I can ever remember. I'm still awaiting the return of my Schiit Gungnir Multibit DAC which is getting their USB upgrade so I'm running my FLAC files from the MicroRendu through the Schiit Bimby into my headphone amp, Schiit Mjolnir 2, which has a pre-out. I removed my Yamaha receiver from the mix and replaced it with Schiit's new Vidar power amp. Every improvement I've made in the chain has been exquisitely expressed through the T2s. I'm withholding a final appraisal until my DAC gets home but these speakers are all I had hoped for. Plenty of low end for my needs, great vocals, and finely expressed highs. My headphones (Sennheiser HD600s and 800s) are receiving much, much less air time since I'm enjoying filling my room once again with sound. With the DAC in place I'll play with cables a bit more seriously and finalize my toe-in and chair placement. So far soundstage seems pretty dependent upon their position but so much is in flux I'm not denigrating anything. Even listening from outside the focal area to Jim Hall and Ron Carter as I type this is distracting in a good way. So much clarity and resolve in the sound. I'm loving them. (Apologies to Emotiva lifers on the Schiit load of equipment I'm using. These speakers make it easy to recommend a listen to Emotiva's other products.)
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Post by Axis on Aug 12, 2017 13:43:48 GMT -5
T2's back to five feet apart. hemster I took eight of those stainless steel disk that are for under spikes on hard floors and put two on top of each other for all the front spikes for a back tilt of about an inch. I stand or walk around my room more than just sit while I listen. It has been awhile since I had a good dedicated midrange driver. My ADS and Kappa 9's had soft dome midranges that I liked. The little Sony towers I have been listening to for 12 years have a 6.5-inch midwoofer like many towers have. A good dedicated midrange driver makes all the difference. You would be surprised how much of that high frequency you think is coming from your tweeter is really midrange. Good job on that midrange driver @roryb. Also I have microfiber towels rolled up in a bun plugging the rear ports with no loss of sound quality. They were loading the rear corners of my room to much for my taste but plugging your ports is a ok.
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Post by Axis on Aug 12, 2017 14:45:49 GMT -5
These speakers are big with a big holographic sound. I would not put them in a small room. My room is 20x40 and even though that is not small, they need every bit of that space. If you have a small room or you will need to listen at close distance I would go with the T1's. My two cents.
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Post by novisnick on Aug 12, 2017 14:53:55 GMT -5
These speakers are big with a big holographic sound. I would not put them in a small room. My room is 20x40 and even though that is not small, they need every bit of that space. If you have a small room or you will need to listen at close distance I would go with the T1's. My two cents. What he said! ^^^^^
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Post by woofman on Aug 12, 2017 18:26:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the very helpful replies. Just brainstorming here.....another option for me would be to move my Cambridge Soundworks towers (Tower II) from my main listening area (30' x 22' x 18' ceiling, driven by Onkyo TX-NR708) to my smaller 14' x 16' room for now (driven by A-700 and MC-700), and placing the T2's in the larger room to enjoy for now. I'm not sure how the CS Tower II's would fare in the smaller room, but thinking they might perform similar to the T1's in the smaller room for now until I buy the T1's at a later date. I have to say, based on the reputation of the T1's, I'm intrigued by the T2's even though there has been very little written about them as of this date.
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Post by Axis on Aug 12, 2017 18:50:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the very helpful replies. Just brainstorming here.....another option for me would be to move my Cambridge Soundworks towers (Tower II) from my main listening area (30' x 22' x 18' ceiling, driven by Onkyo TX-NR708) to my smaller 14' x 16' room for now (driven by A-700 and MC-700), and placing the T2's in the larger room to enjoy for now. I'm not sure how the CS Tower II's would fare in the smaller room, but thinking they might perform similar to the T1's in the smaller room for now until I buy the T1's at a later date. I have to say, based on the reputation of the T1's, I'm intrigued by the T2's even though there has been very little written about them as of this date. T2's are bad ass dude. You do not need reviews. Use your own judgment about speaker size. You want surround with the T1's then get a C2 for center which is a T1 on it's side per @roryb, the guy that made it. Rory needs to come in here and tell everyone the same thing he said on AVSForum. Emotiva needs to be telling people how to best use there speakers in a room. These speakers perform way beyond there price and just remember you can return them. The thought that you are stuck with them after you buy them is wrong. T2's are huge speakers and few will be able to handle them in a two channel system or surround system. They are not ugly. You do not see them the same way they show in pictures. They disappear in a room and those angles are not prominent. These are high performance speakers. They will provide all the sound quality you will ever need. The age of this speaker over that speaker is gone. You would have to have superman hearing and or $10,000 speakers to hear any better.
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Post by novisnick on Aug 12, 2017 19:10:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the very helpful replies. Just brainstorming here.....another option for me would be to move my Cambridge Soundworks towers (Tower II) from my main listening area (30' x 22' x 18' ceiling, driven by Onkyo TX-NR708) to my smaller 14' x 16' room for now (driven by A-700 and MC-700), and placing the T2's in the larger room to enjoy for now. I'm not sure how the CS Tower II's would fare in the smaller room, but thinking they might perform similar to the T1's in the smaller room for now until I buy the T1's at a later date. I have to say, based on the reputation of the T1's, I'm intrigued by the T2's even though there has been very little written about them as of this date. T2's are bad ass dude. You do not need reviews. Use your own judgment about speaker size. You want surround with the T1's then get a C2 for center which is a T1 on it's side per @roryb , the guy that made it. Rory needs to come in here and tell everyone the same thing he said on AVSForum. Emotiva needs to be telling people how to best use there speakers in a room. These speakers perform way beyond there price and just remember you can return them. The thought that you are stuck with them after you buy them is wrong. T2's are huge speakers and few will be able to handle them in a two channel system or surround system. They are not ugly. You do not see them the same way they show in pictures. They disappear in a room and those angles are not prominent. These are high performance speakers. They will provide all the sound quality you will ever need. The age of this speaker over that speaker is gone. You would have to have superman hearing and or $10,000 speakers to hear any better. Axis , what are you trying to say? π That the T2's are the Schiits? ππΆπΆπΆπΆπΆ
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Post by Axis on Aug 12, 2017 19:16:10 GMT -5
T2's are bad ass dude. You do not need reviews. Use your own judgment about speaker size. You want surround with the T1's then get a C2 for center which is a T1 on it's side per @roryb , the guy that made it. Rory needs to come in here and tell everyone the same thing he said on AVSForum. Emotiva needs to be telling people how to best use there speakers in a room. These speakers perform way beyond there price and just remember you can return them. The thought that you are stuck with them after you buy them is wrong. T2's are huge speakers and few will be able to handle them in a two channel system or surround system. They are not ugly. You do not see them the same way they show in pictures. They disappear in a room and those angles are not prominent. These are high performance speakers. They will provide all the sound quality you will ever need. The age of this speaker over that speaker is gone. You would have to have superman hearing and or $10,000 speakers to hear any better. Axis , what are you trying to say? π That the T2's are the Schiits? ππΆπΆπΆπΆπΆ No ! Schiit ain't got no speakers on Emotiva ! I may buy there turntable though. If you have not seen this yet you owe a look. The T2's are Emotiva Nick ! I still love saying T2's ! I got T2's dude !
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Post by novisnick on Aug 12, 2017 19:19:37 GMT -5
Axis , what are you trying to say? π That the T2's are the Schiits? ππΆπΆπΆπΆπΆ No ! Schiit ain't got no speakers on Emotiva ! I may buy there turntable though. If you have not seen this yet you owe a look. The T2's are Emotiva Nick ! I still love saying T2's ! I got T2's dude ! Way over your head bud! π Pun was intended. I could tell that you love your Emotiva T2's, I was joking! π
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Post by Axis on Aug 12, 2017 19:23:30 GMT -5
No ! Schiit ain't got no speakers on Emotiva ! I may buy there turntable though. If you have not seen this yet you owe a look. The T2's are Emotiva Nick ! I still love saying T2's ! I got T2's dude ! Way over your head bud! π Pun was intended. I could tell that you love your Emotiva T2's, I was joking! π I know Nick, were brothers and you know it ! First time I meet you I will give a big hug Nick. I love to post to your post and yes they are the Schiit and I got it.
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Post by pedrocols on Aug 12, 2017 21:04:57 GMT -5
OK.
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Post by pallpoul on Aug 13, 2017 0:27:37 GMT -5
These speakers are big with a big holographic sound. I would not put them in a small room. My room is 20x40 and even though that is not small, they need every bit of that space. If you have a small room or you will need to listen at close distance I would go with the T1's. My two cents. I have my T-2's about 6 feet apart and I am listening at 10 foot distance. They sound really good, the room is much larger, but that's how I could set them up for now. IMO, The HUGE difference in sound came from moving them away from the wall, from 6 inches position to an 18 inches position from the wall, !! Yes that made a huge difference in all aspects of the sound. Secondly, I noticed as they break in they sound a lot better then out of the box. like a huge difference,... I am using an XDA-2, and a Yamaha A-S2000 integrated amp, works real well, but I am tempted to use my XAP Gen 3, 2 channels amps to see if any difference in sound will emerge. will let you know.
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