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Post by wrxified on Apr 11, 2017 19:24:13 GMT -5
The ERC-3 made CDs sound so much better than my turntable, I then had to acquire a decent phono pre-amp so it could catch up. Comments like that me want to give the ERC-3 a test drive. My turntable mops the floor with my CD's through my Oppo 103. Granted I've got about $6k into the turntable, cartridge, SUT and phono pre-amp but if I could get out of my CD's what I get out of my vinyl, I'd vastly expand my play list. I honestly have hundreds of cd's that I don't ever play because they don't sound any better than Apple Music through the Apple TV. |
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Post by teaman on Apr 11, 2017 19:31:43 GMT -5
The ERC-3 made CDs sound so much better than my turntable, I then had to acquire a decent phono pre-amp so it could catch up. Comments like that me want to give the ERC-3 a test drive. My turntable mops the floor with my CD's through my Oppo 103. Granted I've got about $6k into the turntable, cartridge, SUT and phono pre-amp but if I could get out of my CD's what I get out of my vinyl, I'd vastly expand my play list. I honestly have hundreds of cd's that I don't ever play because they don't sound any better than Apple Music through the Apple TV. I have nothing but praise for the ERC-3, Emotiva did a fantastic job with this player. Hands down the best sounding cd player I have ever heard. Heck, worse case scenario it will cost you around $30 to ship it back in the 30 day trial period. |
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Post by wrxified on Apr 11, 2017 19:49:56 GMT -5
Comments like that me want to give the ERC-3 a test drive. My turntable mops the floor with my CD's through my Oppo 103. Granted I've got about $6k into the turntable, cartridge, SUT and phono pre-amp but if I could get out of my CD's what I get out of my vinyl, I'd vastly expand my play list. I honestly have hundreds of cd's that I don't ever play because they don't sound any better than Apple Music through the Apple TV. I have nothing but praise for the ERC-3, Emotiva did a fantastic job with this player. Hands down the best sounding cd player I have ever heard. Heck, worse case scenario it will cost you around $30 to ship it back in the 30 day trial period. You guys suck. 😂 Had it set in my mind to hold off for an Emotiva SACD player that doesn't appear to be happening any time soon. Just pulled the trigger on the ERC-3. We'll see if the clouds open and voices from above start singing down on my electronics rack with this bad boy. |
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Post by klinemj on Apr 11, 2017 20:07:31 GMT -5
I have nothing but praise for the ERC-3, Emotiva did a fantastic job with this player. Hands down the best sounding cd player I have ever heard. Heck, worse case scenario it will cost you around $30 to ship it back in the 30 day trial period. You guys suck. 😂 Had it set in my mind to hold off for an Emotiva SACD player that doesn't appear to be happening any time soon. Just pulled the trigger on the ERC-3. We'll see if the clouds open and voices from above start singing down on my electronics rack with this bad boy. Do you have a lot of SACD's? On the ERC-3 and Emotiva's CD olayers in general, they make great DAC's, and this is (to me) the key to a great CD player. I had the ERC-2 until I started ripping CD's to FLAC and streaming them to a DC-1. The DC-1, to me, sounded a bit better than the ERC-2 and the convenience of streaming was a huge step up. I since moved beyond the DC-1 as I found an even better DAC. Net, my advice if you don't have a lot of SACD's is to rip your CD's to FLAC, stream them to the best DAC you can find, and enjoy the convenience AND great sound. Mark |
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Post by wrxified on Apr 11, 2017 20:16:18 GMT -5
You guys suck. 😂 Had it set in my mind to hold off for an Emotiva SACD player that doesn't appear to be happening any time soon. Just pulled the trigger on the ERC-3. We'll see if the clouds open and voices from above start singing down on my electronics rack with this bad boy. Do you have a lot of SACD's? On the ERC-3 and Emotiva's CD olayers in general, they make great DAC's, and this is (to me) the key to a great CD player. I had the ERC-2 until I started ripping CD's to FLAC and streaming them to a DC-1. The DC-1, to me, sounded a bit better than the ERC-2 and the convenience of streaming was a huge step up. I since moved beyond the DC-1 as I found an even better DAC. Net, my advice if you don't have a lot of SACD's is to rip your CD's to FLAC, stream them to the best DAC you can find, and enjoy the convenience AND great sound. Mark I don't have nearly as many SACD's and Blu-Ray audio discs as I do other media. Just my favorite albums. I'll have to look into that. I've been playing some lossless media through a USB stick to the Oppo with really good results. Never thought about burning them to a disc. So the ERC-3 I could burn the flac or wav files to a cd, then play them through the cd drive? |
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Post by whitwye on Apr 11, 2017 20:43:56 GMT -5
Bit perfect CD rips stored on centralized storage that can be played back from any room of the house, controlled from any mobile device, is the way of the future. The future is a forking road; there's not just one way. Some of us don't see sitting for hours ripping CDs as a fun thing. Some of us like objects, and their covers, and the rituals of setting them up for focused listening. The way of the future didn't include LPs ... until it did again. Lossless is far better than the lossy crap a generation has wasted their lives listening to. But it still doesn't pay the musicians fairly. Take the joy of music where you find it. But those of us who prefer CDs and LPs, it may turn out we have futures too. No offense intended; just saying. And a lot of the disrespect for CDs is because the DACs available to most people have, until just a few years ago, sucked. Granted a DAC will play the digital stream as well from whatever source. But computer drives have nothing like the lifetime of vinyl, or CDs properly stored. |
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Post by teaman on Apr 11, 2017 22:38:15 GMT -5
My buddy downloaded about a hundred cd's to his computer to transfer them on to variety discs to be burned later. After he downloaded everything he went and traded in his discs. Two weeks later his house got a power surge and he lost everything. I am one of those people that like a tangible disc in hand that can go from house to car to vacation or even loaned out for someone else to hear and enjoy. I can sit in the dark for hours listening to disc after disc. Every night I head to bed I select a disc and put it in, then hit "Repeat all" and the disc loops while I fade off. I jump through so many different genres of music it makes everyone else dizzy.
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Post by klinemj on Apr 12, 2017 4:55:35 GMT -5
Do you have a lot of SACD's? On the ERC-3 and Emotiva's CD olayers in general, they make great DAC's, and this is (to me) the key to a great CD player. I had the ERC-2 until I started ripping CD's to FLAC and streaming them to a DC-1. The DC-1, to me, sounded a bit better than the ERC-2 and the convenience of streaming was a huge step up. I since moved beyond the DC-1 as I found an even better DAC. Net, my advice if you don't have a lot of SACD's is to rip your CD's to FLAC, stream them to the best DAC you can find, and enjoy the convenience AND great sound. Mark I don't have nearly as many SACD's and Blu-Ray audio discs as I do other media. Just my favorite albums. I'll have to look into that. I've been playing some lossless media through a USB stick to the Oppo with really good results. Never thought about burning them to a disc. So the ERC-3 I could burn the flac or wav files to a cd, then play them through the cd drive? What I meant was doing away with disks altogether by ripping the disks to a hard drive, then playing them from there w/o using the disk again. The ERC-3 cannot do the ripping...you use a computer for that. For example, I use a PC to rip disks to a NAS that my whole network can see. Then, I access the files using with a PC (and a music player software...I use JRiver) or a Sonos unit. The music can then be played anywhere in my house...without ever inserting a disk into a player once it is ripped. And, if you get into this...use FLAC. There are some issues with WAV. Mark |
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Post by vneal on Apr 12, 2017 5:07:55 GMT -5
CD PLAYERS ARE SO EIGHTIES
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Post by cawgijoe on Apr 12, 2017 5:37:42 GMT -5
CD PLAYERS ARE SO EIGHTIES I enjoyed the 80's! |
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Post by vneal on Apr 12, 2017 5:50:10 GMT -5
Seriously I never use my CD player anymore. I have everything ripped to FLAC files. CD players will go the way of the VHS tapes
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Post by cawgijoe on Apr 12, 2017 7:30:24 GMT -5
Seriously I never use my CD player anymore. I have everything ripped to FLAC files. CD players will go the way of the VHS tapes I use my ERC-1 all the time. I don't have a NAS or really any desire for now to do one. I do stream and will shortly have a Bluesound Node 2. I like streaming because it gives me the ability to have alot of music on hand. I still really enjoy spinning those discs though. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 12, 2017 7:54:48 GMT -5
I have all of my CD's ripped Apple Lossless to the MacMini in my home office which acts as a server. There's a BigEgo connect to the MacMini and a pair of Airmotive 4's that provide music while working. There's a couple of Airport Extremes that give rock solid wifi around the house and garage. There's AppleTV4 in the lounge room connected via HDMI to the UMC-200, plus an AppleTV3 connected via RCA to an Onkyo AVR in the family room with a pair of KEF Chorus. Zone 3 on the UMC-200 provides music to the garage and Zone 2 does the same for the verandah. So I have all of the streaming stuff covered, simply select via iTunes on the iPhone or iPad.
But all that is just convenience for providing background music, while I do the primary task at hand. When I want to really listen to the music I put a CD into the ERC-3, fire up the XSP-1 and the XPA-1L's take it all in.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by bluemeanies on Apr 12, 2017 7:57:30 GMT -5
Seriously I never use my CD player anymore. I have everything ripped to FLAC files. CD players will go the way of the VHS tapes You think V....I seem to think that there are a special group of people out there that like slipping that disc onto a tray. Hands on so to speak. I for one use to use my iMac and still have catalogs of music on it but for about two years since I bought into TIDAL I never use it. Occasionly I put a cd into my Oppo although not classified solely as a cd source to do some comparing. I didn't notice but do you have a TT? |
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Post by pedrocols on Apr 12, 2017 8:12:15 GMT -5
Some folks will continue to justify either having a turntable or cd player as his or her primary listening gear. I visited this guy with a nice turntable rig in a room that measured roughly 15 x 20. The room's walls were literally covered with records. This guy told me that basically it is too late for him to try anything else as he has invested so much throughout the years on recods.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 8:24:52 GMT -5
Teaman makes a good point. Computer-based storage of any form is risky and, in my mind, ephemeral when compared with CD grooves; I've worked with computers long enough to know that. CDs will eventually deteriorate but not within my expected lifetime. When the power goes out here, as it often does for days, I can pull out a battery-operated CD player, put on the headphones, and listen to Mahler. I'm even considering storing that setup, plus a solar array recharger and all needed paraphernalia, in a Faraday cage, just in case.
I can listen either way, having burned some discs and bought some hi-res tracks, but I always do serious listening from my 700+ CD collection. When I die, that collection goes to my 7-yr old granddaughter, who already loves to listen to the Magic Flute and other classical CDs I've given her; that's the only physical thing of worth she will inherit from me.
Making predictions about the future is pretty much a waste of time, IMHO. Let a hundred musical paths bloom, to paraphrase Mao.
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Post by neekos on Apr 12, 2017 14:05:03 GMT -5
Seriously I never use my CD player anymore. I have everything ripped to FLAC files. CD players will go the way of the VHS tapes I agree with you, but, look at the resurgence of vinyl in the last 10 years. The critics had it basically on life support. |
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Post by teaman on Apr 12, 2017 15:11:25 GMT -5
I will take a disc in hand any day over a downloaded file. Even if the cd does go away as VNeal says (which it won't) I will continue spinning them for decades to come...and feel good about it!
Tim
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 12, 2017 16:57:20 GMT -5
I will take a disc in hand any day over a downloaded file. Even if the cd does go away as VNeal says (which it won't) I will continue spinning them for decades to come...and feel good about it! Tim I agree with you Teaman, i suffer when the roku/chromecast drops signal while watching a movie because my router needs reset and i have to wait like 5 min to have internet again. Nothing beats putting a cd/dvd/bluray and enjoy, well of course if the power goes out that's another story. |
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Post by petew on Apr 12, 2017 21:13:46 GMT -5
CD PLAYERS ARE SO EIGHTIES I enjoyed the 80's! The eighties were good but the cars were terrible |
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