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Post by lrobertson on Apr 22, 2018 19:14:04 GMT -5
Supposedly at the axpona show they revealed the RMC-1 would get a 6 independent channel subwoofer expansion bay with full Dirac functionality.. I am curious if that creates a 9.6.6 or a 9.7.6 system.
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Post by Bonzo on Apr 23, 2018 15:48:27 GMT -5
I have to say one thing, since the RMC-1 is supposedly so close to actual release, why have we not heard hardly anything yet regarding these modules? Surely some of the modules would be available at time of ordering no? Or are they putting out the unit then working on modules after that? (That would certainly make me a little hesitant considering how long the XMC-1 upgrades have taken). I guess I think it would just be nice if they filled us in a little about these modules. At least what 3, 5, 10 or whatever number they plan to make for sure. I mean, we get info about a cool subwoofer module, but what about others that would probably be more commonly wanted? Certainly this info is available. I'm not asking for price or even timing, just, what the heck are they going to be? Am I asking for too much?
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Post by audiosyndrome on Apr 23, 2018 16:16:43 GMT -5
I want to see the thin client streamer as a stand alone device that could be used to provide a digital out to a DAC of my choice. I don't want it to have anything else...no headphone amp, no DAC, no nothing...just "Stream me up Scotty!" (And Tidal has to be able to find it...) This is already available via Raspberry Pi and similar solutions for less than $100. I'm not sure there's any benefit to have Emotiva bother doing this unless they go the route of offering dubious branded benefits for inflated prices like the Sonore microRendu which retails for $640 but should really cost something more like $65. My only desire for having such a "Thin Client" in the RMC-1 itself is simply to decrease clutter. But if that isn't available, I'll just buy a Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and install Ropieee on it. Total cost, something on the order of $65 (Raspberry Pi 3 B+, SD card, power supply). Casey A 1% solution as it’s not plug and play like the microRendu or SOTM solution. So built in, BIG yes. Russ |
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Post by jagman on Apr 23, 2018 17:38:31 GMT -5
Supposedly at the axpona show they revealed the RMC-1 would get a 6 independent channel subwoofer expansion bay with full Dirac functionality.. I am curious if that creates a 9.6.6 or a 9.7.6 system. That would be phenomenal! Especially if that means one could do 9.6.6.1 (with the .1 for Voice of God and Auro3D). |
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Post by lrobertson on Apr 24, 2018 9:06:57 GMT -5
What I’d really like to see are additional channels for object playback as well and something like vog. I’m not sure if we’ll be limited by licensing issues, processing issues, or maybe just demand issues. If there are no options for additional object channels I was hoping we could get a few outputs that only feed the bedded content minus the objects so at least we could fill the room with diffuse dipole sound in say the sides and rears and even the front l/r if it makes sense.
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Post by jagman on Apr 29, 2018 15:36:08 GMT -5
Touching on my comment two posts up, once the 6 subwoofer board with full bass management and Dirac is released the 16th channel could be used for VOG if they end up licensing Auro3D (I know that Auro3D was mentioned in the first press release but hasn't been talked about much since). Better yet they could offer an Auro3D expansion module so fans of Auro3D can put even more speakers in their ideal location. Given the low uptake of Auro3D that likely wouldn't make sense financially but it would be very unique.
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Post by petew on Apr 29, 2018 16:12:13 GMT -5
Does a backplane even exist for the modules? I didn't see a backplane in the "exploded RMC-1" that Emotiva displayed a year or so ago. Did they have a clear cover display model of the RMC-1 at Axpona? Seems like another case of smoke and mirrors to me.
I can't imagine the copy protection police letting Emotiva expose much (any) functionality via expansion modules. At best analog modules might be possible, but I doubt we'll see anything that lets the ones and zeros out of the box.
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Post by klinemj on Apr 29, 2018 18:38:49 GMT -5
Does a backplane even exist for the modules? I didn't see a backplane in the "exploded RMC-1" that Emotiva displayed a year or so ago. Did they have a clear cover display model of the RMC-1 at Axpona? Seems like another case of smoke and mirrors to me. I can't imagine the copy protection police letting Emotiva expose much (any) functionality via expansion modules. At best analog modules might be possible, but I doubt we'll see anything that lets the ones and zeros out of the box. By "backplane", I'm not sure what you mean. If what you mean is a location to mount them, that was shown at Emofest and other places. At Emofest, they said you could choose to install up to 3 different modules and the hardware had places to mount them. If you look at the very first picture in this thread, you will see the back panel of the RMC-1 with 2 of 3 expansion slots filled. -->CLICK HERE to see!<---And, in that first post, you can read more about what expansion boards they were talking then. The added sub board is yet another. Mark |
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Post by petew on Apr 29, 2018 20:26:36 GMT -5
Backplane, the connectors that the expansion modules plug into. Like the slots on a computer motherboard.
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Post by klinemj on Apr 30, 2018 7:51:00 GMT -5
Backplane, the connectors that the expansion modules plug into. Like the slots on a computer motherboard. Ah - gotcha...I'm assuming each will have a wire/ribbon cable going to the appropriate board. It's very clear from the chassis and what was shown at Emofest shows that they've provided the way to mount 3 of them them in the chassis, so it would be a little silly on their part to have special slots in their chassis for them but no way to wire them into the circuitry. In other words, I'm not concerned whether they will have them or not. What I am interested in is having the thin client streamer module available as a stand-alone unit! Mark |
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Post by tslack on Aug 16, 2018 3:44:20 GMT -5
Since Emotiva is already planning on putting out a 6-channel sub output card that will be channel assignable, how hard would it be to allow the user to set the upper/lower frequency limits for each of the 6 output channels? That would effectively make it a full range digital crossover that could be configured in many other ways: 2-way L/C/R, 3-way L/R, 2-way L/R + 2 subs, 2-way C + 4 subs, etc. Or allow the user to bypass the frequency filters to create additional zone outputs. This would have a broader appeal since almost no one would have a system with 6 subs, and may even get me to shut-up about crossovers.  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 17, 2018 15:15:48 GMT -5
Since Emotiva is already planning on putting out a 6-channel sub output card that will be channel assignable, how hard would it be to allow the user to set the upper/lower frequency limits for each of the 6 output channels? That would effectively make it a full range digital crossover that could be configured in many other ways: 2-way L/C/R, 3-way L/R, 2-way L/R + 2 subs, 2-way C + 4 subs, etc. Or allow the user to bypass the frequency filters to create additional zone outputs. This would have a broader appeal since almost no one would have a system with 6 subs, and may even get me to shut-up about crossovers. As of today's podcast it's four balanced sub outputs, each with time / distance / phase adjustments. They didn't mention the filters and whether it would have the range to do what you suggest. They also hinted at a similar module that could take the RMC-1 up to 24 channels I believe -- or maybe with the sub module it would be 24? Possibly 16+4+4 ? |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Aug 17, 2018 15:38:18 GMT -5
I've fully annotated the most recent podcast here. Casey |
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Post by tslack on Aug 17, 2018 19:47:33 GMT -5
Since Emotiva is already planning on putting out a 6-channel sub output card that will be channel assignable, how hard would it be to allow the user to set the upper/lower frequency limits for each of the 6 output channels? That would effectively make it a full range digital crossover that could be configured in many other ways: 2-way L/C/R, 3-way L/R, 2-way L/R + 2 subs, 2-way C + 4 subs, etc. Or allow the user to bypass the frequency filters to create additional zone outputs. This would have a broader appeal since almost no one would have a system with 6 subs, and may even get me to shut-up about crossovers. As of today's podcast it's four balanced sub outputs, each with time / distance / phase adjustments. They didn't mention the filters and whether it would have the range to do what you suggest. They also hinted at a similar module that could take the RMC-1 up to 24 channels I believe -- or maybe with the sub module it would be 24? Possibly 16+4+4 ? Awww, nuts. |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 18, 2018 18:50:40 GMT -5
Next question. How many if any, and which ones, will be available at time of release?
Next question. Will 40% off cards apply to the processor only, or the entire purchase?
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Post by jagman on Aug 23, 2018 20:24:32 GMT -5
I'm hoping for Auro-3D 13.1 but I'm not optimistic.
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Post by junchoon on Aug 25, 2018 5:27:21 GMT -5
Next question. How many if any, and which ones, will be available at time of release? Next question. Will 40% off cards apply to the processor only, or the entire purchase? Can emotiva AT LEAST give us the acknowledgment that they have seen this concern from potential buyers like Bonzo? Thanks |
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Post by lrobertson on Aug 25, 2018 12:04:51 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure the podcast mentions everything that has been mentioned so far will be available at release minus the 24 speaker layout support. As far as 40% off I would imagine we won’t find out till orders are open.
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Post by jagman on Aug 25, 2018 12:17:12 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure the podcast mentions everything that has been mentioned so far will be available at release minus the 24 speaker layout support. As far as 40% off I would imagine we won’t find out till orders are open. I bought a 40% off card maybe 6 months ago ($450 I think) but beforehand I spoke with Emotiva. I asked how to legitimately get the card in my name (which was done correctly and efficiently). I told her before I bought it that I was going to buy it specifically for the RMC-1 and she said that was awesome. I directly asked if it could be used toward the RMC-1 because that was the the only reason I bought it and she said it wouldn't be a problem. I expect them to maintain that posture or they will lose a ton of Goodwill with long term customers. I wouldn't be surprised if the picked the $4,999 price point knowing a good number of them would be discounted and that the average revenue per sale would be acceptable. |
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Post by cwt on Aug 25, 2018 13:36:27 GMT -5
I directly asked if it could be used toward the RMC-1 because that was the the only reason I bought it and she said it wouldn't be a problem. I expect them to maintain that posture or they will lose a ton of Goodwill with long term customers. I wouldn't be surprised if the picked the $4,999 price point knowing a good number of them would be discounted and that the average revenue per sale would be acceptable. The pertinent question jagman is whether the 40% off will apply to the expansion cards when bought at the same time as the RMC1  No worries at all that the cards wont apply to the basic unit .In lieu of the release cards being discounted I have a feeling that the future expansion cards however will be full price as it wouldn't be economic for say a card to be developed 12 months or more down the track and not take inflation as an ongoing cost into consideration .Also the question arises do 2nd hand RMC1'S get that discount if a card is ordered [ methinks no] The option that will cost isn't a expansion card but a hdmi 2.1 pcb ; but even that is good value compared to a whole new processor so its very hard to be critical in any case..  |
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No worries at all that the cards wont apply to the basic unit .In lieu of the release cards being discounted I have a feeling that the future expansion cards however will be full price as it wouldn't be economic for say a card to be developed 12 months or more down the track and not take inflation as an ongoing cost into consideration .Also the question arises do 2nd hand RMC1'S get that discount if a card is ordered [ methinks no]
