klinemj
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Post by klinemj on Jun 9, 2018 7:17:02 GMT -5
What concerns me is that this board is taking away valuable man hours that could be used to move the XMC-1 G3 forward or the RMC . Hopefully this is necessary for both . I think all the issues with the V3 board are more related to compatibly with the old technology in the XMC-1. This board was designed from ground to be compatible with the RMC-1 and XMC-1 Gen 3. At Axpona and CES 2018 the RMC-1 was showed with a JVC RS4500 and had no issues. Then as soon they put the board inside the XMC-1, all the bugs came out and new code had to be written to make it compatible with the XMC-1. As far I know the delay in the RMC-1 and XMC-1 Gen 3 is because the main board chipset is not available yet. Or it could have nothing to do w/the "old technology" in the XMC...it could be that the bugs were only found once they got enough beta testers, which they appear to have had with the XMC-1 but likely have not yet with the RMC-1. My guess is that the RMC-1 has only been used with a narrow range of input/output gear at this point. All the speculations on reasons for delays is interesting, but...it's just that. Speculation. Mark
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richb
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Post by richb on Jun 9, 2018 8:17:41 GMT -5
What concerns me is that this board is taking away valuable man hours that could be used to move the XMC-1 G3 forward or the RMC . Hopefully this is necessary for both . All three products need this board and Gen 3 products may have other dependencies. - Rich
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Post by petew on Jun 9, 2018 8:24:54 GMT -5
If they develop a truly kick ass HDMI switcher with no weirdness, all the angst will be quickly forgotten.
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Post by 405x5 on Jun 9, 2018 9:15:23 GMT -5
If they develop a truly kick ass HDMI switcher with no weirdness, all the angst will be quickly forgotten. Of course! It ain't here yet because Emotiva is on OUR SIDE! Bill
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Post by bluescale on Jun 9, 2018 14:01:49 GMT -5
If they develop a truly kick ass HDMI switcher with no weirdness, all the angst will be quickly forgotten. It it's as solid as the HDMI board currently in the XMC-1, we'll all be ecstatic when it finally makes its way into our processors.
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Post by fschris on Jun 9, 2018 14:57:09 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been answered in the thread and I have not looked at every page ...
Question: Is emotiva still going to have an option for existing owners to get a ATMOS upgrade? How will it work? Is the HDMI 2.0 card part of this or is that separate?
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Post by petew on Jun 9, 2018 15:03:46 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been answered in the thread and I have not looked at every page ... Question: Is emotiva still going to have an option for existing owners to get a ATMOS upgrade? How will it work? Is the HDMI 2.0 card part of this or is that separate? Atmos upgrade is still in the works. Requires return of the XMC-1 to Franklin for install. Also requires HDMI board version 3 to function. XMC-1 gen 3 is a new processor rumored to be on the way which will include Atmos and the new HDMI board.
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Post by suffolk112000 on Jun 9, 2018 15:26:01 GMT -5
What is the rumored price of the gen 3 XMC-1?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 9, 2018 15:43:33 GMT -5
What is the rumored price of the gen 3 XMC-1? $3500 has been thrown around.
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Post by novisnick on Jun 9, 2018 16:17:17 GMT -5
What is the rumored price of the gen 3 XMC-1? $3500 has been thrown around. I thought it was $3,000.00 and the XMR-1 was to be $3,500.00 But what do I know? 😋 image url upload
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Post by fschris on Jun 9, 2018 16:41:56 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been answered in the thread and I have not looked at every page ... Question: Is emotiva still going to have an option for existing owners to get a ATMOS upgrade? How will it work? Is the HDMI 2.0 card part of this or is that separate? Atmos upgrade is still in the works. Requires return of the XMC-1 to Franklin for install. Also requires HDMI board version 3 to function. XMC-1 gen 3 is a new processor rumored to be on the way which will include Atmos and the new HDMI board. So the answer is I will be able to send my XMC-1 in for the upgrade...Cool!
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 9, 2018 17:13:31 GMT -5
$3500 has been thrown around. I thought it was $3,000.00 and the XMR-1 was to be $3,500.00 But what do I know? Wouldn't that make the XMC-1 Gen 3 around the same price as the XMC-1 Gen 2 with Atmos board added? Cheers Gary
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Post by novisnick on Jun 9, 2018 17:45:17 GMT -5
I thought it was $3,000.00 and the XMR-1 was to be $3,500.00 But what do I know? Wouldn't that make the XMC-1 Gen 3 around the same price as the XMC-1 Gen 2 with Atmos board added? Cheers Gary Y reckoning was that V3 board was for 4K and the next version was 3K including the Atmos board. The XMR-1 would include these uphrades and add amps for 3.5k Finally, the RMC-1 would be the next gen pre pro with some better/larger # of speaker outs and no amps. 5K for this berion. I’ve/We’ve/ Talk about the RMC-1 has been everywhere and therefore I’ve not paid the most attention to number of channels. Then again, untill something hits the marketplace, we just don’t know. Ive been very quiet about all of this because anything I could add would be insignificant and unfounded. What the hell do we know anyway! LOL I’ll keep watching and hoping. 😁 and saving! 💰💰💰💰
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Post by novisnick on Jun 9, 2018 18:08:02 GMT -5
Wouldn't that make the XMC-1 Gen 3 around the same price as the XMC-1 Gen 2 with Atmos board added? Cheers Gary Y reckoning was that V3 board was for 4K and the next version was 3K including the Atmos board. The XMR-1 would include these uphrades and add amps for 3.5k Finally, the RMC-1 would be the next gen pre pro with some better/larger # of speaker outs and no amps. 5K for this berion. I’ve/We’ve/ Talk about the RMC-1 has been everywhere and therefore I’ve not paid the most attention to number of channels. Then again, untill something hits the marketplace, we just don’t know. Ive been very quiet about all of this because anything I could add would be insignificant and unfounded. What the hell do we know anyway! LOL I’ll keep watching and hoping. 😁 and saving! 💰💰💰💰 Upon another search Ive found different quotes in different places. Even the RMC-1 and the XMR-1 both going for 5K. I give up! 🤪
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 9, 2018 18:37:24 GMT -5
Y reckoning was that V3 board was for 4K and the next version was 3K including the Atmos board. The XMR-1 would include these uphrades and add amps for 3.5k Finally, the RMC-1 would be the next gen pre pro with some better/larger # of speaker outs and no amps. 5K for this berion. I’ve/We’ve/ Talk about the RMC-1 has been everywhere and therefore I’ve not paid the most attention to number of channels. Then again, untill something hits the marketplace, we just don’t know. Ive been very quiet about all of this because anything I could add would be insignificant and unfounded. What the hell do we know anyway! LOL I’ll keep watching and hoping. 😁 and saving! 💰💰💰💰 Upon another search Ive found different quotes in different places. Even the RMC-1 and the XMR-1 both going for 5K. I give up! 🤪 For the XMR-1 +$500 for the power amps sounds a bit cheap, +$1500 is more likely. If they start selling XMC-1 Gen 3's (with 4K HDMI & Atmos/DTS-X) for $3K a lot of XMC-1 Gen 1 & 2 upgraders are going to be mightily peeeeeed off. BTW, my XMC-1 is on its way to Emotiva for the 4K HDMI board upgrade, paying for it tomorrow, inc shipping to Oz. Cheers Gary
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Post by novisnick on Jun 9, 2018 20:12:56 GMT -5
Upon another search Ive found different quotes in different places. Even the RMC-1 and the XMR-1 both going for 5K. I give up! 🤪 For the XMR-1 +$500 for the power amps sounds a bit cheap, +$1500 is more likely. If they start selling XMC-1 Gen 3's (with 4K HDMI & Atmos/DTS-X) for $3K a lot of XMC-1 Gen 1 & 2 upgraders are going to be mightily peeeeeed off. BTW, my XMC-1 is on its way to Emotiva for the 4K HDMI board upgrade, paying for it tomorrow, inc shipping to Oz. Cheers Gary XMC-1 original price, 1500 to 1900 or so. Add both upgrades adds 1K. ($900) if done together) $2000 + $1000 = 3K! Whats to get get mad at? They got (will get ) their upgrades, whats to get mad about. Now, maybe $500 for amps, I don’t know! $3500 just seems to be the number I recall. I may be wrong. Quick save journeys for your XMC-1 my friend.!
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 9, 2018 21:14:27 GMT -5
I thought it was $3,000.00 and the XMR-1 was to be $3,500.00 But what do I know? Wouldn't that make the XMC-1 Gen 3 around the same price as the XMC-1 Gen 2 with Atmos board added? Cheers Gary Right, a fully upgraded XMC-1 Gen 2 at $3000, and an Gen 3 for $3500. The XMR-1 is too far away to be worrying about, but I’d be expecting around $4K.
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Post by fschris on Jun 9, 2018 21:32:27 GMT -5
900 upgrade to me seems fair to me. Hopefully it stays under 1K.
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Post by novisnick on Jun 9, 2018 22:04:59 GMT -5
Wouldn't that make the XMC-1 Gen 3 around the same price as the XMC-1 Gen 2 with Atmos board added? Cheers Gary Right, a fully upgraded XMC-1 Gen 2 at $3000, and an Gen 3 for $3500. The XMR-1 is too far away to be worrying about, but I’d be expecting around $4K. Where are these definitions? XMC-1 gen 1 XMC-1 gen 2 XMC-1 gen 3 ? I was thinking along the lines of; XMC-1 gen 1 = the original 1.4 board ($1200. To $1999) Somewhere in here the 1.4 board was replaced for a single 4K HDMI ( $400 and free upgrade to all 4K out HDMI XMC-1 gen 2 = new V3 board to add all 4K HDMI ($500) XMC-1 gen 3 = V3 board and Atmos ($500 by itself or $400 when done together with V3 upgrade) XMR-1 = V3 board with 8 HDMI 4K AND Atmos speakers out. This is 11 powered channels and two subs out RMC-1 = 7 4K HDMI and Atmos with 16 channel XLR out, no amp and priced at $5K picture shows 13 channels plus three subs out This is what I recall, right wrong or different. It would be VERY kind if an Emotiva executive would clarify my stab at my recollection.
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Post by novisnick on Jun 9, 2018 22:20:51 GMT -5
Im still looking around,
Is the XMC-1 gen 3 actually the one with the dial in the middle of the unit?
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