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Post by leonski on Jul 10, 2018 16:52:56 GMT -5
SHOCKWATCH: Should be attached to ALL fragile packages where insurance might later be an issue or contested by shipper. www.spotsee.io/impactI'd call EMOTIVA and ask what certification (10g , 20g or??) the packaging and contents will survive and use THAT rating. UPON reciept of package? NOTE that the sensor has been tripped. This will help support any later claims for damage or mishandling. For the minimal extra cost, I simply can't believe that EMO does not already use this system. Or any of the other manufacturer / shipper of fine electronics. |
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Post by milt99 on Jul 10, 2018 19:20:09 GMT -5
Still no delivery by 5PM.
Pulled the plug and switched personal pickup. A 30 mile round trip to UPS, if they really have it.
UPS & FEDEX drivers are highly motivated to make their deliveries as failing to do so results in a black mark.
I know a FEDEX driver and delivery exceptions are frowned upon especially at UPS.
It's a pisser as I've had to schedule an extra telecommute day for nothing and have to schlep that beast.
I know it's a first world problem, a term I hate BTW, but that's why I live in the first world.
I'm confident that whatever happens, Emotiva will make it right if necessary but it's not like a pair of shoes.
I do wish they would use FEDEX as they have pickup centers far closer that aren't on main commute choke points.
I've had this very same issue with UPS more than once. PITA.
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Post by craigl59 on Jul 10, 2018 20:13:54 GMT -5
Hang in there and let us know when you've succeeded.
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Post by milt99 on Jul 11, 2018 17:00:05 GMT -5
I know you've all been on tenterhooks over my missing amp  Just got back after a 45mile round trip through shitty traffic to pickup the amp. Why UPS couldn't deliver it over 2 days kind of chaps my backside. Oh well. |
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Post by craigl59 on Jul 11, 2018 17:01:57 GMT -5
Hook them up for a trial while the XPA-1Ls are still fresh in your memory and tell us your thoughts.
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Post by milt99 on Jul 11, 2018 20:00:16 GMT -5
Hook them up for a trial while the XPA-1Ls are still fresh in your memory and tell us your thoughts. I'll have plenty of time to do a direct A/B with the 1Ls but it won't be for a while yet. Planning on doing some QC this weekend just to confirm there aren't any out of the box issues. Other than that, I'm planning on keeping these beasts for the foreseeable future. |
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Post by craigl59 on Jul 12, 2018 11:36:36 GMT -5
novisnick, leonski, and milt99
Have gotten into the pleasant habit of having a class A concert every night with a selection of classical and popular works. Switch the amps to class A for the music time then back to A/B for any cable or internet.
Works great but the amps still heat up as expected even with the single computer fan on top. Am getting a pair of Noctua fans to add to the mix next week BUT took novisnick's advice and ordered a pair of the Aircom T8s to try out as well. They're not that expensive and can always find a use for fans in the two homes.
At the other home have a traditional rack with the XMC-1, XPA-5, Furman Elite 15 and Oppo 103 all together on racks. It does get rather warm over time and thinking that adding the Noctuas to this arrangement might be a wise choice.
Am noticing a real improvement in sound of the XPA-1 as it matures (4 days now). This is in both A and A/B.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 12, 2018 11:43:36 GMT -5
novisnick, leonski, and milt99 Have gotten into the pleasant habit of having a class A concert every night with a selection of classical and popular works. Switch the amps to class A for the music time then back to A/B for any cable or internet. Works great but the amps still heat up as expected even with the single computer fan on top. Am getting a pair of Noctua fans to add to the mix next week BUT took novisnick's advice and ordered a pair of the Aircom T8s to try out as well. They're not that expensive and can always find a use for fans in the two homes. At the other home have a traditional rack with the XMC-1, XPA-5, Furman Elite 15 and Oppo 103 all together on racks. It does get rather warm over time and thinking that adding the Noctuas to this arrangement might be a wise choice. Am noticing a real improvement in sound of the XPA-1 as it matures (4 days now). This is in both A and A/B. So glad your enjoying the Good Life! Isn’t it Good to be King? 😁👍🎉🎶🎶 Thats how I run my XPA-1Ls, Classe A for music and A/B for movies and TV. |
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Post by 509Paul on Jul 13, 2018 20:10:51 GMT -5
They have arrived!!
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Post by craigl59 on Jul 13, 2018 20:17:30 GMT -5
Congrats! Give us the good impressions!
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Post by 509Paul on Jul 14, 2018 21:38:16 GMT -5
These amps have quite the stink when they are brought up to operating temperature for the first time! The effortless control they seem to have compared to the XPA-2 is very impressive. I am glad I talked myself into spending the money on such incredible amps before they disappeared forever!
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Post by counterpoint on Jul 16, 2018 13:36:43 GMT -5
Yay! Don't keep us in suspense! Time for a good strip tease an unboxing! 🤪And counterpoint, DO TELL. Expecting great news. And, perhaps with your moniker, you will write us a fugue as well? XPA-1 News, anyone? Counterpoint? Milt99? Got them up and running yet? Am having delivery today and will post over the weekend. My sincerest apologies, gentlemen. They were delivered on July 3rd, I had a big get-together/grill on the 4th, and then a number of things came up afterwards that completely consumed all of my time since then. I'm still busy but I finally have some time and energy to make a post. The ladies are still resting comfortably in the (messy) garage after their long voyage. The UPS guy hand carried them all the way up my driveway. It was very noble of him.  It looks like I'm going to have to run a couple of dedicated 15A circuits or a single 20A. Luckily, my uncle is an electrician and will be able to help me with that. I'm just a simple man with a simple living room HT. Please bear with me. I'm probably going to upgrade my rack to the VTI BL404. They have the 13" and 9" racks. Is the 9" rack good enough as far as cooling goes? I prefer the 9" to minimize overall height. It doesn't leave much space, I know, but I only plan on using the class A mode for mostly baroque and classical music. I'm also debating between the black and cherry shelves. The black is powder coated and the cherry is laminate with a clear matte coat from what I can tell. Does anyone know how the durability compares between the two? The cherry would match my AV123 Rockets at least. I'd appreciate any input. I also need to replace the carpet or install wood/engineered/laminate floor and throw a big oriental rug over it. I prefer carpet since I have no other rooms treatments at this time. I'm also looking into installing a huge sliding barn door to separate the living room from the rest of the first floor. I might repaint as well... Many things to do... |
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Post by craigl59 on Jul 16, 2018 14:13:39 GMT -5
counterpoint:
Look forward to your story.
Have been dealing with the amp question and been unable to get information from Emotiva; they have not called back Friday or today.
HOWEVER...
...the cables supplied with the XPA-1s are 14 gauge designed for 15 amp circuits. Mine are working fine with two dedicated 15 amp circuits and seem to enjoy having the separate power source -- they are more secure and "continuous."
Your boxes look like mine do -- they've been through the UPS war. Amazing that things work as well as they do considering the weight..
When you get them setup they are spectacular
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Post by counterpoint on Jul 16, 2018 16:47:35 GMT -5
Mine are working fine with two dedicated 15 amp circuits and seem to enjoy having the separate power source -- they are more secure and "continuous." Well, now that I think of it, if I'm going to go to the trouble of retrofitting two 15A outlets, I might as well just make them 20A and be done with it. Silly me... |
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Post by craigl59 on Jul 16, 2018 17:05:03 GMT -5
Makes sense -- your concern will be what plug to use -- the 15 and 20 amp plugs are different (although there are adaptors). Have been trying to find out from Emotiva how much amperage the XPA-1 can actually draw but no luck so far. Novisnick has suggested that both monos can be run off of a single 15 amp circuit. I have no idea but have run both off of a 15 amp Furman Elit and they work OK. Believe that the Pangea AC9 cords will carry 20 amps if you want to supply that much to each mono.
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Post by garbulky on Jul 16, 2018 17:37:54 GMT -5
Mine are working fine with two dedicated 15 amp circuits and seem to enjoy having the separate power source -- they are more secure and "continuous." Well, now that I think of it, if I'm going to go to the trouble of retrofitting two 15A outlets, I might as well just make them 20A and be done with it. Silly me... You can absolutely run both off a single 15 amp circuit. I have two 15 amp circuits and run two tvs, two XPA-1 monos, three cd players, one dac, firetv, and one minix and a computer off them. Not to mention a turntable and charging a roomba and a low watt lamp. In class A the XPA-1 consumes about 300 watts of power per monoblock. Out of class A it doesn't consume very much. Most of your listening is done at 1 watt amp output with peaks taking up the rest. |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 16, 2018 17:40:04 GMT -5
SHOCKWATCH: Should be attached to ALL fragile packages where insurance might later be an issue or contested by shipper. Sounds expensive! |
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Post by davidl81 on Jul 16, 2018 17:41:13 GMT -5
Well, now that I think of it, if I'm going to go to the trouble of retrofitting two 15A outlets, I might as well just make them 20A and be done with it. Silly me... You can absolutely run both off a single 15 amp circuit. I have two 15 amp circuits and run two tvs, two XPA-1 monos, three cd players, one dac, firetv, and one minix and a computer off them. Not to mention a turntable and charging a roomba and a low watt lamp. In class A the XPA-1 consumes about 300 watts of power per monoblock. Out of class A it doesn't consume very much. Most of your listening is done at 1 watt amp output with peaks taking up the rest. I have two 20A dedicated outlets installed and it is crazy overkill. My DR-2 and XPA-5 are on one outlet and running via Panamax 5400 that shows voltage and amp draw. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten over 3 Amps being drawn and that’s with the speakers filthy loud. Kinda goes to show you how little of your headroom you actually use. |
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Post by leonski on Jul 16, 2018 17:44:58 GMT -5
Yes, a SINGLE 15 will work but not be perfect. The difference between a 15 and 20 amp recepticle is one blade is at a right angle on the 20. But the recepticle will ALSO accept a 15 amp plug. I'd make the plug on the cord conform to the IEC connector at the amp. ON the AMP, a high current connector will have BOTH blades horizontal / in line. So no worries about 'adaptors' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320Note that the stuff we all have on our gear is rated 10 amps. Even the heavy duty stuff is only 15. I would UPGRADE the XPA-1 cordage to 12 ga. minimum. The AC9 from Pangea is probably overkill, and MIGHT be hard to bend into shape. Very thick cordage tends to get that way. And for those FEW who would consider some DIY? Belden 83803 is Expensive, but a OneTime purchase, shielded and very flexible. This is a highly regarded 12 ga. cable for the DIY market. Anyone want to do a group purchase? Need to find a total of 100 feet or more to get a better price! Same deal goes for connnectors and plugs. I'm good for 22 feet, so I can make 3x @7 foot cords. www.amazon.com/Belden-83803-Conductor-Power-Cable/dp/B00HE8A952For the |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 16, 2018 17:45:47 GMT -5
Makes sense -- your concern will be what plug to use -- the 15 and 20 amp plugs are different (although there are adaptors). Have been trying to find out from Emotiva how much amperage the XPA-1 can actually draw but no luck so far. Novisnick has suggested that both monos can be run off of a single 15 amp circuit. I have no idea but have run both off of a 15 amp Furman Elit and they work OK. Believe that the Pangea AC9 cords will carry 20 amps if you want to supply that much to each mono. Your sweating too much about the amps. A set of my XPR-1’s can draw 1750 watts at 4 ohms. The XPA-1’s don’t come close I believe. The point is that if I can run my amps on a single 15 amp circuit to ear splitting volumes then surely you have nothing to worry about with your amps. Plug them in and turn up the music! Enjoy! |
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