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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 17, 2018 14:43:45 GMT -5
Overall I am quite pleased with the T2's. I think that the MMG's tend to outshine the T2's at lower volume. Not really a fair comparison due to the capabilities of the T2's at moderate to high volumes. The mid's and high's of the T2 are quite good. The overall integration of sound is very good. Staging is very good. I love the way the T2's integrate with my HSU sub. I am running a full Emotiva front end with the XPA-2 gen 1 and Emotiva DAC. The T2's are super easy to listen to due to the expanded sweet spot. I was having to keep my head in the same spot with the Maggies. I don't miss that. Slam is great. I'm keeping them. Overall more happy with the T2's tolerance of poorly recorded content. That may be because they are less revealing. That's ok with me because its all about enjoyment. Right?
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Post by mshump on Jun 17, 2018 17:50:37 GMT -5
This whole hobby is about enjoyment. If the T2's are better for your enjoyment, then they are the speaker for you !!
Enjoy !!
Mark
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Post by vcautokid on Jun 18, 2018 0:59:28 GMT -5
So right on. Maggies are very finicky to get along with. I had MMGs too. I think the T-2 is really the speaker for the music lover in all of us. Congratulations on your new T-2 speakers.
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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 18, 2018 16:36:24 GMT -5
So right on. Maggies are very finicky to get along with. I had MMGs too. I think the T-2 is really the speaker for the music lover in all of us. Congratulations on your new T-2 speakers. Thanks! The MMG's were cheap enough for me to allow for a ton of tinkering. Those days are largely over (although I did swap out the jumpers on the T2 for pure silver). I am holding back on pulling one of the woofers and see if I can find the crossovers! |
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 18, 2018 20:01:48 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of threads and talked to a lot of people asking "What speakers should I get?" The answer is that there is not specific answer you can always give someone as we all have different tastes among many other variables. There is no one "right" speaker and why multiple manufacturers exist.
The T2's and the MMG's are really different speakers from each other. I have found myself liking speakers from different manufacturers as they each posses some factor that I enjoy. The key to selecting a speaker is enjoyment. To circle back to my above comment, it doesn't really matter what I think as the one buying the speaker has to like what they are listening to. If you are listening to a speaker that you enjoy, then you chose the right one.
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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 18, 2018 22:02:32 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of threads and talked to a lot of people asking "What speakers should I get?" The answer is that there is not specific answer you can always give someone as we all have different tastes among many other variables. There is no one "right" speaker and why multiple manufacturers exist. The T2's and the MMG's are really different speakers from each other. I have found myself liking speakers from different manufacturers as they each posses some factor that I enjoy. The key to selecting a speaker is enjoyment. To circle back to my above comment, it doesn't really matter what I think as the one buying the speaker has to like what they are listening to. If you are listening to a speaker that you enjoy, then you chose the right one. Well put. Speakers have always been a tough purchase for me. Hard to pull the trigger on what could be pricy decision. Especially Floor standing speakers. Bookshelf monitors not so difficult. I was looking seriously at the Kef LS50's before deciding on the T2's. No regrets. Seamless sub integration counts for a lot. My sub sounds much better crossed over in the 40's vs. the 70's or 80's. I'm sure the Kef's are worth the $1500 or so by the time you factor in stands. Emotiva makes my job a bit easier with the $1K price point. Spending upwards of $5K was simply out of the question. |
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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 22, 2018 11:54:04 GMT -5
100 hours of burn in later....
Not much to say here.. Not sure if I hear any real "difference". That's a good thing. Super impressed out of the box. No harm no foul.
These speakers behave as expected, being an Emotiva product. They voice much like the Emotiva XPA-2 and DAC. Just music. Not too bright, not too dark. Just right. Well done Emotiva! A brand to believe in!
I have the sub tuned in around 40hz or so. Just enough to provide some kick where needed. I also have money left over to get another set for my living room! Love the tweeter and the mid range is no slouch either.
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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 23, 2018 21:59:07 GMT -5
100+ hours of burn in later...
I think I hear the speakers getting their "voice". Increased the sub crossover to 50hz with 48db filter. Added 5db of punch from 25 to 35hz. I don't think these speakers make a whole lot in the 30's. Piano is sounding very good. Coming from the primo midrange of the Pans I'm a little spoiled.
I enjoy listening even when my hearing is a bit fatigued. A happy camper. I was mentioning on another site that I can see why Emotiva priced them at $1K/pair. If they were $2K there would be much more competition such as the Maggie 1.7i. I think if that were the case I would have gone with the Maggies and dealt with the lack of mid bass punch. These speakers slam! Being a rocker I do enjoy that...
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Post by pknaz on Jun 24, 2018 11:20:58 GMT -5
I am holding back on pulling one of the woofers and see if I can find the crossovers! I think you'll find that the crossovers are on the back of the speaker terminal. Rory B. designed the T2's and he has a long history of speaker design, from designing the actual drivers to designing crossovers. Great guy, too. |
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Post by pedrocols on Jun 24, 2018 12:08:54 GMT -5
100+ hours of burn in later... I think I hear the speakers getting their "voice". Increased the sub crossover to 50hz with 48db filter. Added 5db of punch from 25 to 35hz. I don't think these speakers make a whole lot in the 30's. Piano is sounding very good. Coming from the primo midrange of the Pans I'm a little spoiled. I enjoy listening even when my hearing is a bit fatigued. A happy camper. I was mentioning on another site that I can see why Emotiva priced them at $1K/pair. If they were $2K there would be much more competition such as the Maggie 1.7i. I think if that were the case I would have gone with the Maggies and dealt with the lack of mid bass punch. These speakers slam! Being a rocker I do enjoy that... If they were 2K they would not sell at all. |
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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 24, 2018 14:11:12 GMT -5
I think you'll find that the crossovers are on the back of the speaker terminal. Rory B. designed the T2's and he has a long history of speaker design, from designing the actual drivers to designing crossovers. Great guy, too. Thanks for the tip! I don't think I'll mess with them, although I do have some favorite caps on my work bench that I have used in the past on my MMG's. Specifically the Clarity Cap MR 12uF. Not sure were they crossed the tweeter over. 12uF may be a bit low for the folder tweeter (MMG's are two way). I know he uses air core inductors. No foul there. Magnepan used iron core. Mostly for its compact size. Not ideal. I'll probably pull the panel just to take a look. Thanks again for the info. I'm lovin this sound. |
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Post by earwaxxer on Jun 24, 2018 14:14:39 GMT -5
100+ hours of burn in later... I think I hear the speakers getting their "voice". Increased the sub crossover to 50hz with 48db filter. Added 5db of punch from 25 to 35hz. I don't think these speakers make a whole lot in the 30's. Piano is sounding very good. Coming from the primo midrange of the Pans I'm a little spoiled. I enjoy listening even when my hearing is a bit fatigued. A happy camper. I was mentioning on another site that I can see why Emotiva priced them at $1K/pair. If they were $2K there would be much more competition such as the Maggie 1.7i. I think if that were the case I would have gone with the Maggies and dealt with the lack of mid bass punch. These speakers slam! Being a rocker I do enjoy that... If they were 2K they would not sell at all. I guess $2K would be a bit rich for Emotiva but I was willing to spend that when I bought them. I think they sound as good as others that I auditioned from ML and PSB. |
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Post by pedrocols on Jun 24, 2018 15:14:18 GMT -5
If they were 2K they would not sell at all. I guess $2K would be a bit rich for Emotiva but I was willing to spend that when I bought them. I think they sound as good as others that I auditioned from ML and PSB. They do in fact look like a well design and built set of speakers. |
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Post by geeqner on Jun 25, 2018 9:30:14 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of threads and talked to a lot of people asking "What speakers should I get?" The answer is that there is not specific answer you can always give someone as we all have different tastes among many other variables. There is no one "right" speaker and why multiple manufacturers exist. The T2's and the MMG's are really different speakers from each other. I have found myself liking speakers from different manufacturers as they each posses some factor that I enjoy. The key to selecting a speaker is enjoyment. To circle back to my above comment, it doesn't really matter what I think as the one buying the speaker has to like what they are listening to. If you are listening to a speaker that you enjoy, then you chose the right one. The more that I experiment - the more that I am finding that there is NO ( UNIVERSAL) "Right" set of speakers. The Best set of SPEAKERS FOR YOU depends upon a number of factors, and I think that the decision factors fall into an order similar to the following - Limitations imposed by your chosen LISTENING ROOM (how big?, acoustics?, where can you PUT the suckers?)
- What are your musical preferences? (those that work best for Classical Piano may not be the right choice for you "head-bangers" etc.)
- Matching the speakers to the Amp(s) that will drive them (not always about POWER, but that USUALLY is the biggest factor - particularly, for hard-to-drive complex loads)
- How much do you want to spend? (Your best choices will vary widely with your budget limitations, but in my experience - good speakers seem to have the largest impact on "System Sound")
Someday, If I had a DEDICATED listening room (where I would not be subject to rules imposed by SWMBO) - I would LOVE a set of the big, 2-way Maggies. I've heard them at a local dealer, and really love the soundstage that they project (from what I've heard - that is one of their biggest strengths if you can place them in an unobstructed spot). But they would be a terrible waste if I installed them in the Living Room where I have my current setup.
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Post by pknaz on Jun 26, 2018 9:59:23 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of threads and talked to a lot of people asking "What speakers should I get?" The answer is that there is not specific answer you can always give someone as we all have different tastes among many other variables. There is no one "right" speaker and why multiple manufacturers exist. The T2's and the MMG's are really different speakers from each other. I have found myself liking speakers from different manufacturers as they each posses some factor that I enjoy. The key to selecting a speaker is enjoyment. To circle back to my above comment, it doesn't really matter what I think as the one buying the speaker has to like what they are listening to. If you are listening to a speaker that you enjoy, then you chose the right one. The more that I experiment - the more that I am finding that there is NO ( UNIVERSAL) "Right" set of speakers. The Best set of SPEAKERS FOR YOU depends upon a number of factors, and I think that the decision factors fall into an order similar to the following - Limitations imposed by your chosen LISTENING ROOM (how big?, acoustics?, where can you PUT the suckers?)
- What are your musical preferences? (those that work best for Classical Piano may not be the right choice for you "head-bangers" etc.)
- Matching the speakers to the Amp(s) that will drive them (not always about POWER, but that USUALLY is the biggest factor - particularly, for hard-to-drive complex loads)
- How much do you want to spend? (Your best choices will vary widely with your budget limitations, but in my experience - good speakers seem to have the largest impact on "System Sound")
Someday, If I had a DEDICATED listening room (where I would not be subject to rules imposed by SWMBO) - I would LOVE a set of the big, 2-way Maggies. I've heard them at a local dealer, and really love the soundstage that they project (from what I've heard - that is one of their biggest strengths if you can place them in an unobstructed spot). But they would be a terrible waste if I installed them in the Living Room where I have my current setup.
I think the only thing that I would add this this list, would be How loud you need/want/like to listen. |
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Post by tchaik on Jun 26, 2018 14:32:34 GMT -5
The more that I experiment - the more that I am finding that there is NO ( UNIVERSAL) "Right" set of speakers. The Best set of SPEAKERS FOR YOU depends upon a number of factors, and I think that the decision factors fall into an order similar to the following - Limitations imposed by your chosen LISTENING ROOM (how big?, acoustics?, where can you PUT the suckers?)
- What are your musical preferences? (those that work best for Classical Piano may not be the right choice for you "head-bangers" etc.)
- Matching the speakers to the Amp(s) that will drive them (not always about POWER, but that USUALLY is the biggest factor - particularly, for hard-to-drive complex loads)
- How much do you want to spend? (Your best choices will vary widely with your budget limitations, but in my experience - good speakers seem to have the largest impact on "System Sound")
Someday, If I had a DEDICATED listening room (where I would not be subject to rules imposed by SWMBO) - I would LOVE a set of the big, 2-way Maggies. I've heard them at a local dealer, and really love the soundstage that they project (from what I've heard - that is one of their biggest strengths if you can place them in an unobstructed spot). But they would be a terrible waste if I installed them in the Living Room where I have my current setup.
I think the only thing that I would add this this list, would be How loud you need/want/like to listen. one more item to add.... WIFE ACCEPTANCE FACTOR!!!!!!!tchaik |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 26, 2018 15:00:51 GMT -5
I think the only thing that I would add this this list, would be How loud you need/want/like to listen. one more item to add.... WIFE ACCEPTANCE FACTOR!!!!!!!tchaik “Pffff” |
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Post by pknaz on Jun 26, 2018 20:54:28 GMT -5
one more item to add.... WIFE ACCEPTANCE FACTOR!!!!!!!tchaik Nah, that never enters into it for me  |
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Post by geeqner on Jun 27, 2018 10:28:29 GMT -5
one more item to add.... WIFE ACCEPTANCE FACTOR!!!!!!!tchaik Nah, that never enters into it for me I ALREADY had that covered, under item #1 - Unless you are single or fortunate enough to have your own "Private Idaho / Listening Room" - WAF is part of the "Listening Room". SWMBO is one of the / possibly the BIGGEST Room Limitation Hurdles to overcome... (Believe me - I KNOW this; I love her dearly, but I married the 2nd most stubborn woman on the planet - she got a promotion about 2 years ago, when her mother passed away.) That's why our NEXT home is going to have a "Ron Cave" - where, "if ya' don't like Ron's rules - - there's the door / you can just keep the heck out" THEN maybe I can get one of those tube amp setups and a set of Klipsch La Scala's and/or a set of Maggies that I've been lusting after I figure that ONE stinkin' room out of the whole danged house (other than the Garage or Basement) is not much to ask for... (but until then, I'll have to make-do with minor mods to what I have now) |
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Post by pknaz on Jun 27, 2018 11:41:30 GMT -5
Nah, that never enters into it for me I ALREADY had that covered, under item #1 - Unless you are single or fortunate enough to have your own "Private Idaho / Listening Room" - WAF is part of the "Listening Room". SWMBO is one of the / possibly the BIGGEST Room Limitation Hurdles to overcome... (Believe me - I KNOW this; I love her dearly, but I married the 2nd most stubborn woman on the planet - she got a promotion about 2 years ago, when her mother passed away.) That's why our NEXT home is going to have a "Ron Cave" - where, "if ya' don't like Ron's rules - - there's the door / you can just keep the heck out" THEN maybe I can get one of those tube amp setups and a set of Klipsch La Scala's and/or a set of Maggies that I've been lusting after I figure that ONE stinkin' room out of the whole danged house (other than the Garage or Basement) is not much to ask for... (but until then, I'll have to make-do with minor mods to what I have now) Totally understand, marriage requires compromises, I have the "one room is mine, the rest of the house is yours" agreement with my wife as well. For a long time, it was simply one of the small bedrooms, only big enough for my one chair and my equipment. Small near-field speakers it was! My comment was somewhat in jest  |
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