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Post by hsamwel on Sept 17, 2019 18:32:27 GMT -5
I’m fine with the live updates in the menus as-is. I’m rarely in the menu /setup system...it’s kind of a 1 and done. You need to pick your battles, folks. Emo needs to focus on the basics, like Bugs, input switching speed and DIRAC. When is DIRAC going to happen, Keith or Lonnie? Yes ; if theres 1 thing Ive experienced over many gui's and eventually gotten used to [even prioritised how to interact with differing methods thus becoming 2nd nature] its sub menu interaction For those coming from a D and M Holdings product it must be a shock ; those coming from a XMC1 not so much . The volume control is far and away what I would want some alacrity from as has been said Otherwise a few direct preset buttons for dsp modes and the rest buried in the menus ;initial set then forget .. A shock is putting it mildly.. I have experience with Denon/Marantz, Pioneer and Yamaha.. They all have pretty good gui’s.. But even though Denon/Marantz seems most advanced I don’t like it. But they are all lightyears ahead of Emotiva which feel almost like a computer DOS menu system from the 80’s.. Emotiva have better sound quality, although not lightyears better.. If Emotiva want to sell to a bigger number of users other than to the nisch market they need more features and a better UI.. Of course also making it bug free .. IMHO..
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Post by goozoo on Sept 17, 2019 18:59:10 GMT -5
What I believe is happening here is the RMC is not picking up on the DTS audio track being received. The RMC is stuck on the PCM/Dolby setting and can't (or doesn't want to) output the DTS sound.... or at least that is what the RMC info suggests. I'm glad you were able to get audio working, another solution and potentially faster solution than restarting the Oppo (if you had not already read this suggestion) * Change the audio track the Oppo is outputing to stereo. * Let the RMC receive the stereo signal and start playing the stereo audio * Hit the audio button on the Oppo again and switch to the DTS track. That normally forces the RMC to pickup the DTS track and fixes this audio issue and is a bit faster than restarting a device. This happened to me and my XMC2 when I first put in a DTS movie. DTS doesn’t sound as good in the XMC2 vs Dolby Atmos. The RMC-1 has a problem locking onto a DTS signal if it has already been getting drunk on ATMOS or some other format. This can also happen on its' own with some streaming devices as well. This has been reported on this thread and sent to Emotiva technical with no resolution other than a hard reset of the RMC-1. There have also be reported issues with SQ in regard to DTS Neural:X on this thread. No response. I don't know if they will ever be able to fully fix what is going on.
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Post by jammerblue on Sept 17, 2019 19:07:45 GMT -5
Let's see...before long early adopters will have had their RMC-1 in hand for nearly a year. No Dirac, no expansion modules...challenging firmware....and now... newbies can get 15% off.
Not sure how I feel about that....
Thoughts on the matter?
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Post by dimora on Sept 17, 2019 19:16:47 GMT -5
Let's see...before long early adopters will have had their RMC-1 in hand for nearly a year. No Dirac, no expansion modules...challenging firmware....and now... newbies can get 15% off. Not sure how I feel about that.... Thoughts on the matter? I think Emo needs to step up their development game. If they fix bugs, make switching inputs faster and give us DIRAC these things will sell the selves with no gimmicks. Some expansion modules would be nice too, but the other three I mentioned are KEY to sell more units and make us owners very happy.
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Post by davidl81 on Sept 17, 2019 19:21:50 GMT -5
Let's see...before long early adopters will have had their RMC-1 in hand for nearly a year. No Dirac, no expansion modules...challenging firmware....and now... newbies can get 15% off. Not sure how I feel about that.... Thoughts on the matter? How many early adopters actually paid full price I wonder. Many were UFL or 40% off card holders.
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 17, 2019 19:22:56 GMT -5
What ever pace allows them to not default on the loan is good with me. The faster the better though. Hope people take advantage of the blanket prepro buyback offer. I’m sure they are trying to get as much money as possible to tighten it all up.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 17, 2019 20:38:06 GMT -5
Let's see...before long early adopters will have had their RMC-1 in hand for nearly a year. No Dirac, no expansion modules...challenging firmware....and now... newbies can get 15% off. Not sure how I feel about that.... Thoughts on the matter? How many early adopters actually paid full price I wonder. Many were UFL or 40% off card holders. Don’t forget that many buyers paid for their 40% discount cards!
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Post by davidl81 on Sept 17, 2019 20:41:45 GMT -5
How many early adopters actually paid full price I wonder. Many were UFL or 40% off card holders. Don’t forget that many buyers paid for their 40% discount cards! Sure, but even paying for the card and getting 2k of is still a better deal than the $750 minus shipping minus whatever value your avr has (if any). Most cards are selling in the $600 range now, so that’s still a $1400 savings.
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Post by tagmanz on Sept 18, 2019 3:18:19 GMT -5
KeithL or Lonnie As i understand the outputs of the rmc-1 are all identical. So there is a stream from the dsp to the respective dac. Would it be possible to add some kind of routing that every generated stream / channel can be assigned / directed to every physical output like on a speaker management device? I too would be interested to know the answer to this. How flexible is the speaker assignment in the RMC-1? Can any speaker/channel be routed to any physical output or is the XLR output permanently assigned as per the screen printing on the back panel? Initially I would like to run 7.2.6 with individual outputs for each sub. I'm fine with a mono signal but would like to have individual PEQ/Dirac filters for each. Can I use the outputs labelled LWid & RWid for my middle height speakers leaving all 3 sub outputs available for subs or must I use the LSub/Ht & RSub/Ht for the middle heights leaving only one sub output and two unutilised wide outputs?
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Post by hi on Sept 18, 2019 3:48:58 GMT -5
KeithL or Lonnie As i understand the outputs of the rmc-1 are all identical. So there is a stream from the dsp to the respective dac. Would it be possible to add some kind of routing that every generated stream / channel can be assigned / directed to every physical output like on a speaker management device? I too would be interested to know the answer to this. How flexible is the speaker assignment in the RMC-1? Can any speaker/channel be routed to any physical output or is the XLR output permanently assigned as per the screen printing on the back panel? Initially I would like to run 7.2.6 with individual outputs for each sub. I'm fine with a mono signal but would like to have individual PEQ/Dirac filters for each. Can I use the outputs labelled LWid & RWid for my middle height speakers leaving all 3 sub outputs available for subs or must I use the LSub/Ht & RSub/Ht for the middle heights leaving only one sub output and two unutilised wide outputs? At the moment it is not possible to assign two sub outs and 6 overhead speakers. Also at the moment it is not possible to re-arange the outputs freely to fit as example existing cable rack routing...
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Post by KeithL on Sept 18, 2019 8:43:15 GMT -5
The outputs on the RMC-1 are all identical - in terms of hardware. However, in order to do so, the software would have to be entirely re-written, which isn't likely to happen. (As with most modern devices, the programming that runs the RMC-1 is quite complex already, and this would make it far more complex.)
KeithL or Lonnie As i understand the outputs of the rmc-1 are all identical. So there is a stream from the dsp to the respective dac. Would it be possible to add some kind of routing that every generated stream / channel can be assigned / directed to every physical output like on a speaker management device? I too would be interested to know the answer to this. How flexible is the speaker assignment in the RMC-1? Can any speaker/channel be routed to any physical output or is the XLR output permanently assigned as per the screen printing on the back panel? Initially I would like to run 7.2.6 with individual outputs for each sub. I'm fine with a mono signal but would like to have individual PEQ/Dirac filters for each. Can I use the outputs labelled LWid & RWid for my middle height speakers leaving all 3 sub outputs available for subs or must I use the LSub/Ht & RSub/Ht for the middle heights leaving only one sub output and two unutilised wide outputs?
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Post by rbk123 on Sept 18, 2019 8:53:29 GMT -5
What ever pace allows them to not default on the loan is good with me. The faster the better though. Hope people take advantage of the blanket prepro buyback offer. I’m sure they are trying to get as much money as possible to tighten it all up. What loan are they at risk of defaulting on?
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Post by hddave on Sept 18, 2019 9:23:30 GMT -5
I have a new RMC-1 still in the box since I am saving/purchasing saving/purchasing equipment for a future home theatre and I figured I better buy one before Chinese tarrifs raised the price. So I apologize if this question could be easily answered by going through the menus myself. Mine is still in the box and may not come out for over a year, when my theatre is finally built. Being able to assign speaker outputs for future surround formats has been heavily advertised in interviews about the RMC-1. I actually have a question about assigning them for the current surround formats. Would I be able to hook up speakers in the recommended locations for Dolby Atmos AND speakers in the recommended for DTS X and have the RMC-1 automatically use the correct set of overhead speakers when I choose the associated format? Yes and no. Yes you could use the two different speaker setups and the sound should distribute accordingly based on the CODEC (operative word being should). That said, you have no way to actually designate which speakers are to be used for what format graphically which is really what you need to layout the format correctly. I like to listen to movies in the format that they are encoded. So as long as I am not upmixing the codec to a different surround format, in=out, I should be able to accomplish what I am looking for, provided the RMC-1 is working the way it is supposed to (without having to change any settings after initial setup)? What do you mean by "graphically"? BTW, thanks for your prompt reply. I am new to the forum and didn't realize I need to turn my notifications on in order to be notified when someone answers my question.
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 18, 2019 9:24:24 GMT -5
What ever pace allows them to not default on the loan is good with me. The faster the better though. Hope people take advantage of the blanket prepro buyback offer. I’m sure they are trying to get as much money as possible to tighten it all up. What loan are they at risk of defaulting on? In business you don’t want to extend yourself too far especially with matters of R&D being development that costs money but takes longer for return. I’m assuming they operate like every other business in the country. Spacing out the costs allows them to spread this over a longer period so the sales of the rest of their products can begin to pay back what they’ve had to borrow. Did I say they were in danger or that they were more likely to be handling their money smart and being a responsible business by not feeling obligated to throw all their resources at once to solve everything at the detriment of their financial security? I meant the ladder.
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 18, 2019 9:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by TDifEQ on Sept 18, 2019 9:34:52 GMT -5
The outputs on the RMC-1 are all identical - in terms of hardware. However, in order to do so, the software would have to be entirely re-written, which isn't likely to happen. (As with most modern devices, the programming that runs the RMC-1 is quite complex already, and this would make it far more complex.)
I too would be interested to know the answer to this. How flexible is the speaker assignment in the RMC-1? Can any speaker/channel be routed to any physical output or is the XLR output permanently assigned as per the screen printing on the back panel? Initially I would like to run 7.2.6 with individual outputs for each sub. I'm fine with a mono signal but would like to have individual PEQ/Dirac filters for each. Can I use the outputs labelled LWid & RWid for my middle height speakers leaving all 3 sub outputs available for subs or must I use the LSub/Ht & RSub/Ht for the middle heights leaving only one sub output and two unutilised wide outputs? Both Dan and Lonnie said RMC-1 expansion modules would have fully assignable outputs at 2018 CEDIA. I believe nospam (?) provided this link to Sound and Vision article on RMC-1 at 2018 CEDIA where Dan and Lonnie said RMC-1 had assignable outputs ... see point 4 in notes below: www.soundandvision.com/content/emotiva-gets-ready-1158-dolby-atmosBelow are notes on this article: NOTES: 1. ATMOS: Supports 11.5.8 channels of Dolby Atmos surround. 2. 16 to 24 Channels: Supports 9.1.6 channels of Atmos out of the box, but three optional back-chassis XLR-output modules will bring the channel count to 24 to support more immersive-audio channels, add more subwoofers, biamplify multiple speakers, or implement a mix of all three. 3. ATMOS/DTS:X: The AVP is the company’s first audio component with Dolby Atmos and DTS:X decoding …” 4. Assignable Outputs: Because all outputs are fully assignable, “we can make any channel what we want it to be,” said VP/CTO Lonnie Vaughn. “The outputs are fully assignable, and each XLR expansion module contains a dedicated dual-core Sharc processor and DACs,” Laufman said of the RMC-1. 5. Sharc for Expansion Modules: “The outputs are fully assignable, and each XLR expansion module contains a dedicated dual-core Sharc processor and DACs,” Laufman said of the RMC-1. 6. Input Expansion Modules: The expansion bays can also accept a balanced input expansion module, a MC/MM phono module, and a thin-client streaming module. 7. Verita for Balance Outputs: All 16 of the RMC-1’s 16 channels are fully balanced, and each channel is processed by a separate AKM Verita 32-bit DAC. 8. PEQ/REW: Each channels supports 11-band parametric equalization through the free Room EQ Wizard room-correction software. 9. Dirac: The processor also features 15.1 or 13.3 Dirac Live automatic room correction running on all 16 channels at a 96kHz sampling rate. 10. DSD: For music listening, the RMC-1 decodes high-resolution audio, including single- and double-rate DSD, through HDMI- and USB-connected sources. 11. HDMI Inputs: Eight HDMI 2.0b inputs support 4K video with high dynamic range (HDR), including Dolby Vision. 12. HDMI Outputs: Dual HDMI outputs connect to two displays in a room, a flat-panel display for daytime viewing and a projector for nighttime viewing. 13. Tuner: There’s also an AM/FM tuner for those who listen to analog radio. Sound and Vision: Emotiva Gets Ready For 11.5.8 Dolby Atmos Read more at www.soundandvision.com/content/emotiva-gets-ready-1158-dolby-atmos#RTrAgZKd6U4pVw6s.99
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 18, 2019 9:59:57 GMT -5
The outputs on the RMC-1 are all identical - in terms of hardware. However, in order to do so, the software would have to be entirely re-written, which isn't likely to happen. (As with most modern devices, the programming that runs the RMC-1 is quite complex already, and this would make it far more complex.)
Both Dan and Lonnie said RMC-1 would have fully assignable outputs at 2018 CEDIA. 2. 16 to 24 Channels: Supports 9.1.6 channels of Atmos out of the box, but three optional back-chassis XLR-output modules will bring the channel count to 24 to support more immersive-audio channels, add more subwoofers, biamplify multiple speakers, or implement a mix of all three. 4. Assignable Outputs: Because all outputs are fully assignable, “we can make any channel what we want it to be,” said VP/CTO Lonnie Vaughn. “The outputs are fully assignable, and each XLR expansion module contains a dedicated dual-core Sharc processor and DACs,” Laufman said of the RMC-1. 5. Sharc for Expansion Modules: “The outputs are fully assignable, and each XLR expansion module contains a dedicated dual-core Sharc processor and DACs,” Laufman said of the RMC-1. T hey were talking about the expansion modules - Geesh, can't anyone read anymore?
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Post by TDifEQ on Sept 18, 2019 10:09:11 GMT -5
Both Dan and Lonnie said RMC-1 would have fully assignable outputs at 2018 CEDIA. 2. 16 to 24 Channels: Supports 9.1.6 channels of Atmos out of the box, but three optional back-chassis XLR-output modules will bring the channel count to 24 to support more immersive-audio channels, add more subwoofers, biamplify multiple speakers, or implement a mix of all three. 4. Assignable Outputs: Because all outputs are fully assignable, “we can make any channel what we want it to be,” said VP/CTO Lonnie Vaughn. “The outputs are fully assignable, and each XLR expansion module contains a dedicated dual-core Sharc processor and DACs,” Laufman said of the RMC-1. 5. Sharc for Expansion Modules: “The outputs are fully assignable, and each XLR expansion module contains a dedicated dual-core Sharc processor and DACs,” Laufman said of the RMC-1. T hey were talking about the expansion modules - Geesh, can't anyone read anymore? THx. Updated my post.
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Post by bolle on Sept 18, 2019 10:14:48 GMT -5
The outputs on the RMC-1 are all identical - in terms of hardware. However, in order to do so, the software would have to be entirely re-written, which isn't likely to happen. (As with most modern devices, the programming that runs the RMC-1 is quite complex already, and this would make it far more complex.)
I too would be interested to know the answer to this. How flexible is the speaker assignment in the RMC-1? Can any speaker/channel be routed to any physical output or is the XLR output permanently assigned as per the screen printing on the back panel? Initially I would like to run 7.2.6 with individual outputs for each sub. I'm fine with a mono signal but would like to have individual PEQ/Dirac filters for each. Can I use the outputs labelled LWid & RWid for my middle height speakers leaving all 3 sub outputs available for subs or must I use the LSub/Ht & RSub/Ht for the middle heights leaving only one sub output and two unutilised wide outputs? Sad that you didn´t incorporate this into your software architecture. It is something which Trinnov or StormAudio can do and what really sets them apart from the rest. It would even allow you to sell active speakers without a DSP, just let the RMC-1 users upload the correct DSP-preset... With expansion bays, that could be truely something great.
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Post by thrillcat on Sept 18, 2019 11:36:13 GMT -5
The outputs on the RMC-1 are all identical - in terms of hardware. However, in order to do so, the software would have to be entirely re-written, which isn't likely to happen. (As with most modern devices, the programming that runs the RMC-1 is quite complex already, and this would make it far more complex.)
. It is something which Trinnov or StormAudio can do and what really sets them apart from the rest. That, and the price tag.
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