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Post by emofrmcgy on Feb 16, 2019 21:52:35 GMT -5
Can you access the mkv file via the network on the oppo ? Do your other movies play fine ? Playing mkv through Oppo from my Plex media share, the Dolby track shows English MLP 7.1 on Oppo and PCM 7.1 on RMC, Plays audio, but it's not Atmos. I get no audio from DTS-MA 5.1 this way, None of my movies with DTS-MA or Dolby Atmos play through Plex app on my Shield any more....they all worked before and i can get them to work today if I just roll back to 1.1.4. Thank you for checking.
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Post by Geronimo on Feb 16, 2019 22:00:36 GMT -5
Can you access the mkv file via the network on the oppo ? Do your other movies play fine ? Playing mkv through Oppo from my Plex media share, the Dolby track shows English MLP 7.1 on Oppo and PCM 7.1 on RMC, Plays audio, but it's not Atmos. I get no audio from DTS-MA 5.1 this way, None of my movies with DTS-MA or Dolby Atmos play through Plex app on my Shield any more....they all worked before and i can get them to work today if I just roll back to 1.1.4. Just to put you at ease that your not crazy. I have my HTPC HDMI that goes crazy with the sound setting ATMOS FOR HOME THEATER in the sound properties. It worked in the older firmware. Pretty sure Emotiva is working on it. Important thing is to post here, or call then to report that bug.
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Post by Lonnie on Feb 16, 2019 22:41:10 GMT -5
What happens when you play the physical media on a blueray player? Lonnie Physical media (blu-ray 1080p) in Oppo-203 plays Atmos and DTS fine. And 4K UHD plays Atmos fine. I get that it's something related to the Shield, but it works fine when RMC is on v1.1.4 from shield so that is a strange step back. Just wanted to eliminate gear failure. Since the other players work, then that narrows down what to look at. Thanks for the feedback. Lonnie
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Post by rhale64 on Feb 16, 2019 22:44:56 GMT -5
Ok I am getting nothing from any speakers EXCEPT the overhead speakers with Jurassic World DTSX. I tried everything to no avail. Tried changing inputs, sound modes, resetting and flipping the rear switch, waiting, flipping it back on. Nothing would work. I had the same problem earlier with Hotel Transylvania 2 but it was the blue ray. DTSHD master audio. And by changing the sound modes up and down got it to work. But with DTSX nothing. Only the overhead speakers.
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Post by Lonnie on Feb 16, 2019 22:51:37 GMT -5
Can you access the mkv file via the network on the oppo ? Do your other movies play fine ? Playing mkv through Oppo from my Plex media share, the Dolby track shows English MLP 7.1 on Oppo and PCM 7.1 on RMC, Plays audio, but it's not Atmos. I get no audio from DTS-MA 5.1 this way, None of my movies with DTS-MA or Dolby Atmos play through Plex app on my Shield any more....they all worked before and i can get them to work today if I just roll back to 1.1.4. If the Oppo is seeing a MLP file, then it will unpack it and send PCM to us. MLP is a 2:1 compression of a PCM audio file, so this makes since. I wonder what the what algorithm they are using to generate an Atmos MAP file from PCM? I need to give my buddy at Dolby a call and see what he knows. Thanks for the info. We will dig into it. Lonnie
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Post by Geronimo on Feb 16, 2019 22:54:59 GMT -5
Playing mkv through Oppo from my Plex media share, the Dolby track shows English MLP 7.1 on Oppo and PCM 7.1 on RMC, Plays audio, but it's not Atmos. I get no audio from DTS-MA 5.1 this way, None of my movies with DTS-MA or Dolby Atmos play through Plex app on my Shield any more....they all worked before and i can get them to work today if I just roll back to 1.1.4. If the Oppo is seeing a MLP file, then it will unpack it and send PCM to us. MLP is a 2:1 compression of a PCM audio file, so this makes since. I wonder what the what algorithm they are using to generate an Atmos MAP file from PCM? I need to give my buddy at Dolby a call and see what he knows. Thanks for the info. We will dig into it. Lonnie Lonnie, you should get a buddy at DTS too 😂😂😂 😉
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Post by Mr. Robot on Feb 17, 2019 0:54:04 GMT -5
Playing mkv through Oppo from my Plex media share, the Dolby track shows English MLP 7.1 on Oppo and PCM 7.1 on RMC, Plays audio, but it's not Atmos. I get no audio from DTS-MA 5.1 this way, None of my movies with DTS-MA or Dolby Atmos play through Plex app on my Shield any more....they all worked before and i can get them to work today if I just roll back to 1.1.4. If the Oppo is seeing a MLP file, then it will unpack it and send PCM to us. MLP is a 2:1 compression of a PCM audio file, so this makes since. I wonder what the what algorithm they are using to generate an Atmos MAP file from PCM? I need to give my buddy at Dolby a call and see what he knows. Thanks for the info. We will dig into it. Lonnie Thanks for listening and noting the bug. It's good to know I'm not crazy and others have seen similar problems. I hope whatver the Dolby guy says proves to be a global fix as emofrmcgy helped me discover the issue is with both Atmos and DTS-MA.
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Post by novisnick on Feb 17, 2019 1:32:08 GMT -5
@keithl or lonnie anybody. I may have missed this answer so I’ll ask. I haven’t installed my RMC-1 yet and I want to install The latest firmware, is it recommended that I install it before making any connection to my other components? This may seem like a silly question but I’m asking anyway. Thanks
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 17, 2019 6:49:08 GMT -5
Ok I am getting nothing from any speakers EXCEPT the overhead speakers with Jurassic World DTSX. I tried everything to no avail. Tried changing inputs, sound modes, resetting and flipping the rear switch, waiting, flipping it back on. Nothing would work. I had the same problem earlier with Hotel Transylvania 2 but it was the blue ray. DTSHD master audio. And by changing the sound modes up and down got it to work. But with DTSX nothing. Only the overhead speakers. Does this happen with all of your DTS:X encoded 4K UHD Blu-ray’s?
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Post by Lonnie on Feb 17, 2019 8:05:57 GMT -5
@keithl or lonnie anybody. I may have missed this answer so I’ll ask. I haven’t installed my RMC-1 yet and I want to install The latest firmware, is it recommended that I install it before making any connection to my other components? This may seem like a silly question but I’m asking anyway. Thanks This is what we do here so we always have a reference starting point. It doesn’t matter if you update before or after you connect everything but since you haven’t installed it yet. Just go ahead and install the new code before hand. After the new code is installed, do a factory reset on the processor. Turn off all your gear and connect up the processor. Unplug from the wall all your gear and wait about 10 seconds. Plug everything back in and give it all a minute or two to do their behind the scenes stuff. Start up the processor and let it boot. Then start up everything else. This will reset everything and give all the gear a fresh EDID read. You should be good to go. Lonnie
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Post by rhale64 on Feb 17, 2019 9:49:04 GMT -5
Ok I am getting nothing from any speakers EXCEPT the overhead speakers with Jurassic World DTSX. I tried everything to no avail. Tried changing inputs, sound modes, resetting and flipping the rear switch, waiting, flipping it back on. Nothing would work. I had the same problem earlier with Hotel Transylvania 2 but it was the blue ray. DTSHD master audio. And by changing the sound modes up and down got it to work. But with DTSX nothing. Only the overhead speakers. Does this happen with all of your DTS:X encoded 4K UHD Blu-ray’s? I haven't tried any other DTSX movies since the latest official release. I will check a bit later. I had previously watched this movie, but the first time was with my Oppo 205 and I didn't have the RMC1 at that time.
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 17, 2019 14:33:52 GMT -5
This is a known issue with Oppo’s non 4K non-HDMI 2.0/HDCP2.2 mediaplayers. Oppo has a firmware fix for their respective players so you just have to send them an email and they’ll send you a link for the update. There are links in the Official V3 HDMI Board thread on the Lounge as well. If you can’t find them I’ll be glad to email you a copy when I get home from work. I had no idea there was a “secret” firmware release. I will try that. Thank you. Just wondering if this worked out for your "No Audio" issue. If you haven't tried this yet, copy and paste the below link in your browsers address line and it should take you directly to the Oppo BDP-93/95 firmware file fix. download.oppodigital.com/BDP0903/BDP9X_85-0106B.zip
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Post by Mr. Robot on Feb 17, 2019 23:01:04 GMT -5
Playing mkv through Oppo from my Plex media share, the Dolby track shows English MLP 7.1 on Oppo and PCM 7.1 on RMC, Plays audio, but it's not Atmos. I get no audio from DTS-MA 5.1 this way, None of my movies with DTS-MA or Dolby Atmos play through Plex app on my Shield any more....they all worked before and i can get them to work today if I just roll back to 1.1.4. If the Oppo is seeing a MLP file, then it will unpack it and send PCM to us. MLP is a 2:1 compression of a PCM audio file, so this makes since. I wonder what the what algorithm they are using to generate an Atmos MAP file from PCM? I need to give my buddy at Dolby a call and see what he knows. Thanks for the info. We will dig into it. Lonnie Lonnie, I was thinking more about the chain of troubleshooting questions and your final comment "I wonder what algorithm they are using".....Prior to the latest FW, the RMC did understand the algorithm and played all my Atmos and DTS-MA files without issue. Help me understand why the update would take a step backwards and no longer be able to interpret those sound formats?
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Post by goozoo on Feb 18, 2019 1:28:28 GMT -5
If the Oppo is seeing a MLP file, then it will unpack it and send PCM to us. MLP is a 2:1 compression of a PCM audio file, so this makes since. I wonder what the what algorithm they are using to generate an Atmos MAP file from PCM? I need to give my buddy at Dolby a call and see what he knows. Thanks for the info. We will dig into it. Lonnie Lonnie, I was thinking more about the chain of troubleshooting questions and your final comment "I wonder what algorithm they are using".....Prior to the latest FW, the RMC did understand the algorithm and played all my Atmos and DTS-MA files without issue. Help me understand why the update would take a step backwards and no longer be able to interpret those sound formats? What version of the Shield Tv experience are you using? I'm asking as I have a similar configuration and have not updated to 1.2 yet from 1.1.4. Are any other Shield owners experiencing this with their RMC-1s?
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Post by Lonnie on Feb 18, 2019 9:24:25 GMT -5
If the Oppo is seeing a MLP file, then it will unpack it and send PCM to us. MLP is a 2:1 compression of a PCM audio file, so this makes since. I wonder what the what algorithm they are using to generate an Atmos MAP file from PCM? I need to give my buddy at Dolby a call and see what he knows. Thanks for the info. We will dig into it. Lonnie Lonnie, I was thinking more about the chain of troubleshooting questions and your final comment "I wonder what algorithm they are using".....Prior to the latest FW, the RMC did understand the algorithm and played all my Atmos and DTS-MA files without issue. Help me understand why the update would take a step backwards and no longer be able to interpret those sound formats? We completely re-wrote the detection algorithm for the DSP. So this means there is a particular format that we are missing in the detection scheme. Thats all. Lonnie
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Post by Mr. Robot on Feb 18, 2019 10:37:28 GMT -5
Lonnie, I was thinking more about the chain of troubleshooting questions and your final comment "I wonder what algorithm they are using".....Prior to the latest FW, the RMC did understand the algorithm and played all my Atmos and DTS-MA files without issue. Help me understand why the update would take a step backwards and no longer be able to interpret those sound formats? What version of the Shield Tv experience are you using? I'm asking as I have a similar configuration and have not updated to 1.2 yet from 1.1.4. Are any other Shield owners experiencing this with their RMC-1s? Shield is 7.2.2(30.7.130.7). My movies are all bit for bit copies of physical media wrapped in an MKV. When I play Atmos or DTS-MA, it just plays crackling static through all channels.
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Post by Mr. Robot on Feb 18, 2019 10:38:02 GMT -5
Lonnie, I was thinking more about the chain of troubleshooting questions and your final comment "I wonder what algorithm they are using".....Prior to the latest FW, the RMC did understand the algorithm and played all my Atmos and DTS-MA files without issue. Help me understand why the update would take a step backwards and no longer be able to interpret those sound formats? We completely re-wrote the detection algorithm for the DSP. So this means there is a particular format that we are missing in the detection scheme. Thats all. Lonnie Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense.
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Post by jpshinn on Feb 18, 2019 12:29:48 GMT -5
Last night, we rented/watched Christopher Robin on AppleTV. The RMC-1 had been "on" (whether in standby or not) since Saturday. When we started the movie, there were some streaming glitches (the movie would literally hang unless I paused out of the movie, into the AppleTV menu and back in) but I do not know whether those were related to a streaming issue or the RMC-1. Having said that, there were noticeable audio/video distortions along the way and my RMC-1 just so happened to be frozen. I rebooted the machine and we continued to watch the movie without any issues. Come on guys, this cannot continue. I'm about to give up on the RMC-1 totally....
As an aside, I am on the latest RMC-1 firmware.
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Post by Lonnie on Feb 18, 2019 12:45:47 GMT -5
Last night, we rented/watched Christopher Robin on AppleTV. The RMC-1 had been "on" (whether in standby or not) since Saturday. When we started the movie, there were some streaming glitches (the movie would literally hang unless I paused out of the movie, into the AppleTV menu and back in) but I do not know whether those were related to a streaming issue or the RMC-1. Having said that, there were noticeable audio/video distortions along the way and my RMC-1 just so happened to be frozen. I rebooted the machine and we continued to watch the movie without any issues. Come on guys, this cannot continue. I'm about to give up on the RMC-1 totally.... Well streaming errors have nothing to do with the RMC but if the RMC sees an over abundance of HDMI errors I can see where it would get confused and stuck in a loop somewhere trying to resolve things. We will look into this and see if there is a way to cause it to fail. If we can replicate the issue, then we can find out what part got stuck and work from there to prevent it. Lonnie
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Post by Mr. Robot on Feb 18, 2019 14:18:21 GMT -5
This is hopefully and easy question and nothing critical: I've EQ'd the 2 speaker presets for different listening experiences. Preset1 is EQ'd for Movies and Preset2 is for Stereo Music. I'v noticed when switching between the speaker presets the Processing mode matches what was currently selected. In other words, if I'm on Preset1 watchng a movie and the Processing Mode is Auto and I switch to Preset2 the Processing Mode will be Auto even if the last time I used Preset2 the Processing Mode to Stereo. The question then, is there a way to set a default Processing Mode on a Speaker Preset? I can see how to set a default per input, but that isn't ideal when I use one input for both playback types.
Again, this is not critical just wondering if I'm missing something in the menu.
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