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Post by KeithL on Mar 15, 2019 15:06:35 GMT -5
The catch is that, while default admin access makes life easier for malware, it also makes life easier for the user... And, conversely, while limiting access may inconvenience a lot of malware, it also makes life more difficult for the user. (If that wasn't true then we wouldn't be having a discussion about problems caused by Windows security precautions.)
It's really up to each user to decide how much limitation and inconvenience they're willing to put up with in return for what amount of extra security. (Unless you're really satisfied to let Microsoft tell you what programs you're allowed to run.)
never run as an admin - you're inviting really nasty issues. Malware LOVES admin rights - makes its life easy |
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Post by millst on Mar 16, 2019 11:38:17 GMT -5
never run as an admin - you're inviting really nasty issues. Malware LOVES admin rights - makes its life easy Meh, that's what UAC is for. Good advice, though. It's just too much hassle, especially as a developer. I'll wipe and restore from backup if something goes wrong.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 17, 2019 7:39:02 GMT -5
The catch is that, while default admin access makes life easier for malware, it also makes life easier for the user... And, conversely, while limiting access may inconvenience a lot of malware, it also makes life more difficult for the user. (If that wasn't true then we wouldn't be having a discussion about problems caused by Windows security precautions.)
It's really up to each user to decide how much limitation and inconvenience they're willing to put up with in return for what amount of extra security. (Unless you're really satisfied to let Microsoft tell you what programs you're allowed to run.)
never run as an admin - you're inviting really nasty issues. Malware LOVES admin rights - makes its life easy Let's be real - the current beta software isn't secure. As an InfoSec guy, I simply won't run it. |
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Post by millst on Mar 17, 2019 12:02:12 GMT -5
Let's be real - the current beta software isn't secure. In what way(s)? |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 18, 2019 5:46:12 GMT -5
Let's be real - the current beta software isn't secure. In what way(s)? It can't be installed on a properly secured Windows 10 PC. |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 18, 2019 9:46:08 GMT -5
I agree there. Windows 10 is not, cannot be, and will never be, especially secure. And, unfortunately, while enabling all of the included security features do make Windows 10 somewhat more secure, they do so at a major cost in terms of convenience and usability.
I would much rather spend a few hours reinstalling Windows if something goes wrong on a computer than sacrifice the ability to run much of the software I want to run on it.
(To me, the purpose of a computer is to run software. If the only way to keep it secure is to not run the software I need, then what I have is a very secure paperweight, which isn't much use to me.) If you keep proper backups, which you should be doing anyway, then there's not much too bad that can go wrong. (Malware is far from the only risk you face. Your hard drive will eventually die, at which point you'll be really glad you had those backups, so there's really no extra work involved.)
I'm not suggesting that utilizing all the security features in Windows is a terrible thing (and it's also a good idea to invest in a good third party antivirus and firewall solution). However, you must accept that you are making a trade-off between functionality and security, and that you just aren't going to be able to run some software you might want to.
never run as an admin - you're inviting really nasty issues. Malware LOVES admin rights - makes its life easy Meh, that's what UAC is for. Good advice, though. It's just too much hassle, especially as a developer. I'll wipe and restore from backup if something goes wrong. |
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Post by millst on Mar 18, 2019 12:28:21 GMT -5
It can't be installed on a properly secured Windows 10 PC. It works fine. I was able to install as a regular user. On first launch, I was even prompted for admin credentials to automatically create the firewall rules. Or maybe your "properly secured" means some kind of non-standard config?
I'm not interested in debating the overall security of Windows or how it compares against another OS.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Mar 18, 2019 13:14:44 GMT -5
I have a standard Windows 10 Home editio, and running the Emotiva exe is being blocked by SmartScreen.
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Post by millst on Mar 19, 2019 10:20:02 GMT -5
Just click more info and run it anyway. It’s just a warning.
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Post by vcautokid on Mar 19, 2019 16:00:56 GMT -5
Thank you. Haven't heard this in a long time. No one listens and they should. Running as a limited user. 2 cool things. You hose the account? So what. Make another one. Also yeah, it is more secure. I did this on my Mac and Linux machines especially. Less so on my PC. But it is a best practice. Some argue with some good valid points. Some will just argue.
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Post by romotiva on May 1, 2019 5:20:53 GMT -5
You can get a copy of the Windows Remote Control App (beta) for the XMC-1 here. (NOTE: This is a temporary link and will only be live for one week starting 3/12/2019).
Also note that this is a beta.... novisnick - I'm looking for the PC controller, not a smartphone control app. Is there a new version available in the meantime? |
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Post by KeithL on May 1, 2019 8:58:58 GMT -5
The Remote Control App hasn't been updated in some time.
NOTE that the Remote Control App mimics the buttons on the physical remote control (you see the remote control on the screen and push the buttons). So, just as your remote control continues to work, the remote control APP continues to work. (The only thing that would necessitate an update would be if it stopped working on your computer - due to some sort of update on the computer.)
You can get a copy of the Windows Remote Control App (beta) for the XMC-1 here. (NOTE: This is a temporary link and will only be live for one week starting 3/12/2019).
Also note that this is a beta.... Is there a new version available in the meantime? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 2, 2019 13:36:39 GMT -5
While some might be content with an electronic copy of the remote, I think it’s a shame to miss out on all the direct functions available on the XMC-1 — and presumably the XMC-2, RMC-1 & RMC-1L — a complete direct command set is available both via IR and IP. The XMC-1 App varies slightly between iPhone and iPad, but also has the advantage of providing feedback via its echoing of the XMC-1’s display. Being able to directly select any input, audio mode, tone control, etc. is a huge benefit and convenience. I can only assume that the RMC-1 would have additional direct functions available like Atmos / DTS:X, and overhead trims; I wonder whether direct access to the additional capabilities made available by the expansion modules will be part of the spec? (Hopefully!) When the XMC-1 was first released this extended IR/IP command set wasn’t published, when I asked about it some time later it was stated that no one had ever asked about them. So I’ll ask here now: Is there an extended IR/IP command set available for the RMC-1 that goes above and beyond the XMC-1’s commands? (we will eventually have the same question about the XMC-2 and RMC-1L) The complete command set is available now for XMC-1 owners via Harmony Remotes, after it was released I spent quite a bit of time working with Logitech to get these commands added to the basic remote set; I was surprised to learn that Emotiva does not submit these commands, but it is rather up to the user community to contact Logitech and have them added. RMC owners can use the XMC Harmony commands, but if there are any additional functions they wouldn’t be available. I’ve since been in contact with Logitech trying to get them to add the IP interface to the XMC-1, they’re less open to individual users generating work than they used to be, I believe Emotiva would have to make the submission to get a new product like the RMC-1 (with additional commands) added. I bring this up as I am a strong supporter of both Harmony remotes, and direct IP based Apps, I know there are others here as well. I would hope that an updated App would become available that would include all of the new processors, it seems that it should support iOS / Android for Smartphones and Tablets, and it appears some like PC as well. I don’t believe Emotiva has the resources or time in house for this kind of project, though they could either farm it out or enable a community based project by releasing the code for the Richard Lesniak App (which assumes they paid for the App and own the code). I’m including some links below to previous threads on this subject, and a screenshot of the direct XMC-1 commands available via the iPad interface to my Harmony Elite Home. Just trying to keep interest in this topic alive. The Harmony Command Set ThreadThe Lesniak App ThreadXMC-1 IP Control Thread (user App ideas)Chuck Elliot’s PC App ThreadHarmony IPad XMC-1 Screenshot  |
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Post by tom9933 on May 2, 2019 21:08:55 GMT -5
I have also been asking about an IP based API as I'd like to use it with my AMX system. On my previous receivers I always used RS232 but since the RMC-1 doesn't have that I was planning to switch over to network. If anyone has any info on the API I'd love to see it. I'm really curious to see if they went with a legacy SSH/Telnet command line interface or a REST based API. For the control system the command line is the easiest to work with but I can seem them going the REST route since its a newer product.... BTW thanks for the links above I did find the XMC command set and am planning to see how much of that works with the RMC...
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Post by KeithL on May 3, 2019 8:53:37 GMT -5
There seems to be some confusion....
Here is the description of the XMC-1 Network API (which runs via IP):
I have also been asking about an IP based API as I'd like to use it with my AMX system. On my previous receivers I always used RS232 but since the RMC-1 doesn't have that I was planning to switch over to network. If anyone has any info on the API I'd love to see it. I'm really curious to see if they went with a legacy SSH/Telnet command line interface or a REST based API. For the control system the command line is the easiest to work with but I can seem them going the REST route since its a newer product.... BTW thanks for the links above I did find the XMC command set and am planning to see how much of that works with the RMC... |
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Post by tom9933 on May 3, 2019 13:49:23 GMT -5
Thanks Keith yes I found that doc in one of your other posts and am hoping the commands work with the RMC  |
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Post by taigovinda on Feb 6, 2020 20:34:50 GMT -5
You can get a copy of the Windows Remote Control App (beta) for the XMC-1 here. (NOTE: This is a temporary link and will only be live for one week starting 3/12/2019).
Also note that this is a beta.... Is it possible to get the Windows Remote Control App (beta or otherwise) anywhere at this point? I was happily using the Chuck app ever since I got the XMC-1 - until I finally ponied up for the HDMI upgrade, just got the unit back today and now it's "parse error 112" the moment I launch it. I've always primarily used/controlled from my PC (XMC is out of site...). Thanks. Tai |
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Post by megash0n on Feb 6, 2020 21:10:03 GMT -5
You can get a copy of the Windows Remote Control App (beta) for the XMC-1 here. (NOTE: This is a temporary link and will only be live for one week starting 3/12/2019).
Also note that this is a beta.... Is it possible to get the Windows Remote Control App (beta or otherwise) anywhere at this point? I was happily using the Chuck app ever since I got the XMC-1 - until I finally ponied up for the HDMI upgrade, just got the unit back today and now it's "parse error 112" the moment I launch it. I've always primarily used/controlled from my PC (XMC is out of site...). Thanks. Tai Look into the network API. With some python code, it works pretty well. |
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Post by millst on Feb 7, 2020 10:44:59 GMT -5
The old app should continue to work fine. The API hasn't changed in years. Are you sure there isn't something wrong with your config? I haven't heard anyone complaining in the app thread.
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Post by KeithL on Feb 7, 2020 12:12:49 GMT -5
(And, yeah, since it's WeTransfer free, it'll only be there for a week.)
You can get a copy of the Windows Remote Control App (beta) for the XMC-1 here. (NOTE: This is a temporary link and will only be live for one week starting 3/12/2019).
Also note that this is a beta.... Is it possible to get the Windows Remote Control App (beta or otherwise) anywhere at this point? I was happily using the Chuck app ever since I got the XMC-1 - until I finally ponied up for the HDMI upgrade, just got the unit back today and now it's "parse error 112" the moment I launch it. I've always primarily used/controlled from my PC (XMC is out of site...). Thanks. Tai |
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never run as an admin - you're inviting really nasty issues. Malware LOVES admin rights - makes its life easy
