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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 27, 2019 9:31:56 GMT -5
Well, he was responding to the HDMI dongle, but I assume he meant you could get the necessary 5V/1A for the Chromecast, from the rear USB port. However, I just noticed that the Chromecast Ultra (about $70 instead of $35) seems to allow WiFi AND wired Ethernet through the USB power adapter. So if you want wired Ethernet, you’d have to use the wall wart, but still a cheap way to get a wired Roon endpoint. Discussion on AVS indicates that the upcoming Monoprice HTP-1 will be using the 1080P Chromecast to provide network features (roon, etc.). The USB powered Chromecast dongle requires 1 amp at 5 volts. This solution works just as well on Emotiva processors. I, like Casey Leedom, use wired ethernet for all stationary devices that are capable to reserve wireless bandwidth and assure the most reliable connection. - Rich Yes, I was just pointing out that this ‘Ultra’ model allows a wired connection, but to get that you must power it from AC, so also a Roon solution for any processor. |
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Post by nospam on Aug 29, 2019 18:33:11 GMT -5
Discussion on AVS indicates that the upcoming Monoprice HTP-1 will be using the 1080P Chromecast to provide network features (roon, etc.). The USB powered Chromecast dongle requires 1 amp at 5 volts. This solution works just as well on Emotiva processors. I, like Casey Leedom , use wired ethernet for all stationary devices that are capable to reserve wireless bandwidth and assure the most reliable connection. - Rich Yes, I was just pointing out that this ‘Ultra’ model allows a wired connection, but to get that you must power it from AC, so also a Roon solution for any processor. That wired Ethernet power supply that ships with the Chromecast Ultra works with any Chromecast, including the original gen1. You just have to buy the power supply separately. I bought several (ebay/amazon). |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 29, 2019 21:50:10 GMT -5
Yes, I was just pointing out that this ‘Ultra’ model allows a wired connection, but to get that you must power it from AC, so also a Roon solution for any processor. That wired Ethernet power supply that ships with the Chromecast Ultra works with any Chromecast, including the original gen1. You just have to buy the power supply separately. I bought several (ebay/amazon). That’s interesting, so the Ethernet runs over the USB cable? I hadn’t really thought about how it got there. |
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Post by nospam on Aug 30, 2019 0:42:55 GMT -5
That wired Ethernet power supply that ships with the Chromecast Ultra works with any Chromecast, including the original gen1. You just have to buy the power supply separately. I bought several (ebay/amazon). That’s interesting, so the Ethernet runs over the USB cable? I hadn’t really thought about how it got there. Yep, Ethernet via USB. I believe other device like the Kindle Fire Sticks can do this too. Unfortunately, it does not work on Roku sticks. |
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Post by richb on Aug 30, 2019 17:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 31, 2019 13:33:40 GMT -5
6 x Dirac Presets, Roon, DTS:X Pro, New Dirac Bass Management with firmware update and Auro 3D/2D? Me like it  |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Aug 31, 2019 17:16:07 GMT -5
And it's using the updated AK4493 DAC Chips too I believe ...
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 31, 2019 18:04:59 GMT -5
And it's using the updated AK4493 DAC Chips too I believe ... Casey That is correct. It has AK4493 DACs. |
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Post by junchoon on Sept 7, 2019 7:27:47 GMT -5
I really miss a second balanced input in all three processors. I have two high end balanced playback units that benefits from being connected balanced. Pioneer N-70AE network streamer and Pioneer UDP-LX800 4k bluray player. IMO they should have added a second XLR input in favour of two of the digital inputs. Who needs NINE digital inputs?! So as it stands RMC-1 was the best option for me with its possible expansions. I will probably buy a balanced in expansion card when it arrives. I’m also interested in a streaming expansion if done correctly with very HQ sound. As I already own a great streamer which have just about every feature except being roon ready. I tested to connect it digitally aswell as analog to RMC, it sounds MUCH better through analog in. Problem is that the streamers don’t send streams (ex FLAC) directly to its digital outs. They do DA and probably AD again to then send LPCM out digitally. Yeah I am in the same boat. Should have one more set of xlr input. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 7, 2019 13:09:57 GMT -5
I really miss a second balanced input in all three processors. I have two high end balanced playback units that benefits from being connected balanced. Pioneer N-70AE network streamer and Pioneer UDP-LX800 4k bluray player. IMO they should have added a second XLR input in favour of two of the digital inputs. Who needs NINE digital inputs?! So as it stands RMC-1 was the best option for me with its possible expansions. I will probably buy a balanced in expansion card when it arrives. I’m also interested in a streaming expansion if done correctly with very HQ sound. As I already own a great streamer which have just about every feature except being roon ready. I tested to connect it digitally aswell as analog to RMC, it sounds MUCH better through analog in. Problem is that the streamers don’t send streams (ex FLAC) directly to its digital outs. They do DA and probably AD again to then send LPCM out digitally. Yeah I am in the same boat. Should have one more set of xlr input. It sounds like that may be one of the first expansion boards for the RMC-1, low hanging fruit, seems it shouldn’t be too expensive. I thought since there’s room enough for 4 XLRs they should have done two more pairs of balanced inputs, but I suppose it would raise the cost, and few would use that many. |
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Post by junchoon on Sept 7, 2019 20:17:21 GMT -5
It sounds like that may be one of the first expansion boards for the RMC-1, low hanging fruit, seems it shouldn’t be too expensive. I thought since there’s room enough for 4 XLRs they should have done two more pairs of balanced inputs, but I suppose it would raise the cost, and few would use that many. I would prefer they just remove one or two sets of rca inputs and replace those with one set of xlr inputs. If I needed more rca inputs I will buy rca expansion board for that At least for rmc-1 and rmc-1l the rca inputs will be converted to balanced internally - I don’t think conversions of of those inputs will be cheap in engineering/design or the actual parts. I am not sure if xmc-2’s rca inputs coverts to balanced. Xmc-2 is good enough for me for surround sounds Maybe I just get an rmc-1l and replace those rca inputs myself - this won’t void my warranty for sure!!!!! Right?  ?? |
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Post by Lsc on Sept 8, 2019 0:25:41 GMT -5
It sounds like that may be one of the first expansion boards for the RMC-1, low hanging fruit, seems it shouldn’t be too expensive. I thought since there’s room enough for 4 XLRs they should have done two more pairs of balanced inputs, but I suppose it would raise the cost, and few would use that many. I would prefer they just remove one or two sets of rca inputs and replace those with one set of xlr inputs. If I needed more rca inputs I will buy rca expansion board for that At least for rmc-1 and rmc-1l the rca inputs will be converted to balanced internally - I don’t think conversions of of those inputs will be cheap in engineering/design or the actual parts. I am not sure if xmc-2’s rca inputs coverts to balanced. Xmc-2 is good enough for me for surround sounds Maybe I just get an rmc-1l and replace those rca inputs myself - this won’t void my warranty for sure!!!!! Right? ?? I’m not sure what you are saying. What RCA inputs are you referring to that are converted to balanced? I don’t think this is possible. |
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Post by junchoon on Sept 8, 2019 1:10:10 GMT -5
I would prefer they just remove one or two sets of rca inputs and replace those with one set of xlr inputs. If I needed more rca inputs I will buy rca expansion board for that At least for rmc-1 and rmc-1l the rca inputs will be converted to balanced internally - I don’t think conversions of of those inputs will be cheap in engineering/design or the actual parts. I am not sure if xmc-2’s rca inputs coverts to balanced. Xmc-2 is good enough for me for surround sounds Maybe I just get an rmc-1l and replace those rca inputs myself - this won’t void my warranty for sure!!!!! Right? ?? I’m not sure what you are saying. What RCA inputs are you referring to that are converted to balanced? I don’t think this is possible. Pls take a look here: emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/53933/official-rmc-1-owners-thread?page=147Thanks |
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Post by cwt on Sept 8, 2019 5:52:46 GMT -5
At least for rmc-1 and rmc-1l the rca inputs will be converted to balanced internally - I don’t think conversions of of those inputs will be cheap in engineering/design or the actual parts. I am not sure if xmc-2’s rca inputs coverts to balanced. Xmc-2 is good enough for me for surround sounds Maybe I just get an rmc-1l and replace those rca inputs myself - this won’t void my warranty for sure!!!!! Right? ?? Keith implied it wasn't hard ''Adding more sets of stereo inputs, either balanced or unbalanced, isn't especially difficult... It's just a matter of switching additional inputs to the fully balanced signal path that's already there." Though it does make more sense to ditch some unbalanced for more balanced [ but then we cant be upsold to the top of the line model ] I suspect because of the XMC2's fully balanced dual diff mono mode L/C/R DACS it will convert to balanced as well[ that's what encompasses/handles 2ch anyway] ; cant see them being routed elsewhere that is .. |
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Post by richb on Sept 25, 2019 9:25:16 GMT -5
There are some updates with regards to the new line: Emotiva RMC-1(L), XMC-2Imax Enhanced: This is possible in software but the market demand will decide. DTS:X Pro: Available early 2020 EARC: Available early 2020 with hardware update. DSD over HDMI: Native, no DSD to PCM conversion. USB Audio Input: Yes - Multi-channel support confirmed. Streaming Support: Optional - Supports Roon via optional internal module available Q1, '20. Compatible with all models. Emotiva RMC-1 Module Slots:- MC/MM Phono module
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- Fully assignable Quad XLR output module with independent Griffin Lite DSP
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Post by thrillcat on Sept 25, 2019 10:26:42 GMT -5
There are some updates with regards to the new line: Emotiva RMC-1(L), XMC-2Imax Enhanced: This is possible in software but the market demand will decide. DTS:X Pro: Available early 2020 EARC: Available early 2020 with hardware update. DSD over HDMI: Native, no DSD to PCM conversion. USB Audio Input: Yes - Multi-channel support confirmed. Streaming Support: Optional - Supports Roon via optional internal module available Q1, '20. Compatible with all models. Emotiva RMC-1 Module Slots:- MC/MM Phono module
- Dual XLR input module
- Fully assignable Quad XLR output module with independent Griffin Lite DSP
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Post by richb on Sept 25, 2019 10:35:54 GMT -5
There are some updates with regards to the new line: Emotiva RMC-1(L), XMC-2Imax Enhanced: This is possible in software but the market demand will decide. DTS:X Pro: Available early 2020 EARC: Available early 2020 with hardware update. DSD over HDMI: Native, no DSD to PCM conversion. USB Audio Input: Yes - Multi-channel support confirmed. Streaming Support: Optional - Supports Roon via optional internal module available Q1, '20. Compatible with all models. Emotiva RMC-1 Module Slots:- MC/MM Phono module
- Dual XLR input module
- Fully assignable Quad XLR output module with independent Griffin Lite DSP
- Rich Interesting. Where is this from? Word from the top. The information was provided by Emotiva to update/correct the AVSForum 16 channel-processor comparison thread. - Rich |
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Post by vcautokid on Sept 25, 2019 17:06:48 GMT -5
Just getting there. Not the hardware always. The XMC-1 was Emotiva's point processor. All processors following it are based on its architecture. You couldn't have the RMC-1 first without the XMC-1. Interest to me is about the output, and how the processor helps me. For now, the XMC-1 is exemplary at the task. Great sound, great processing. What else do I need?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 25, 2019 18:09:54 GMT -5
Just getting there. Not the hardware always. The XMC-1 was Emotiva's point processor. All processors following it are based on its architecture. You couldn't have the RMC-1 first without the XMC-1. Interest to me is about the output, and how the processor helps me. For now, the XMC-1 is exemplary at the task. Great sound, great processing. What else do I need? This is a great point, the XMC-1's design is the root of what we like and some of what we don't like (or at least what some find limiting), for all the new processors. Certainly the great sound and core analog circuit design has been passed on, along with the basic architecture. But so also is the real time hierarchical menu system, which though it does the job well, doesn't allow for a headless setup from an App or Browser that many would like to see. It's probably also the reason we only see one balance pair of inputs, though it's been pointed out that with the fully balanced architecture of the newer processors, more should have been easy (and we wouldn't have to buy a expansion module). There are other examples (like the App API), but my point is just that the advantage of heritage, can also be limiting, though no reason for many to have anything more than an XMC-1, or apologize about it. |
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Post by vcautokid on Sept 25, 2019 21:38:53 GMT -5
I hear you. So much now goes into the versatility that the Emotiva's lack. No stream subscriber support or Alexa support. Heck my Onkyo receiver does that. Emotiva went a different way. But these days as you say. Is that enough?
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