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Post by gus4emo on Nov 30, 2019 17:18:16 GMT -5
Hi all, so when I turn on zone 2 or 3, the receiver triggers the XPA7 and the XPA200 on, they are just on, not doing anything else, but they sometimes are on for hours until I turn off whatever zone I was using, should I manually turn the amps off, or is it ok to leave them on that long?
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Post by gus4emo on Nov 30, 2019 17:37:07 GMT -5
Hi all, so when I turn on zone 2 or 3, the receiver triggers the XPA7 and the XPA200 on, they are just on, not doing anything else, but they sometimes are on for hours until I turn off whatever zone I was using, should I manually turn the amps off, or is it ok to leave them on that long? Are you around Keith? |
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Post by ottaone on Nov 30, 2019 18:04:13 GMT -5
Depending on receiver, you should be able to specify which amps are turned on. In my UMC-1,center channel amp is off when activity is Listen to CD or Play Vinyl.
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Post by garbulky on Nov 30, 2019 18:08:43 GMT -5
Hi all, so when I turn on zone 2 or 3, the receiver triggers the XPA7 and the XPA200 on, they are just on, not doing anything else, but they sometimes are on for hours until I turn off whatever zone I was using, should I manually turn the amps off, or is it ok to leave them on that long? It's fine to leave them on 24/7. That's what I did with my old UPA-2. |
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Post by gus4emo on Nov 30, 2019 18:59:52 GMT -5
Depending on receiver, you should be able to specify which amps are turned on. In my UMC-1,center channel amp is off when activity is Listen to CD or Play Vinyl. My concern is not what the receiver is doing, it triggers the XPA7 and the XPA7 triggers the XPA200, my concern is that the amps stay on for hours, I have had no issues, just trying to make sure the life of the amps would not suffer... |
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Post by gus4emo on Nov 30, 2019 19:02:06 GMT -5
Hi all, so when I turn on zone 2 or 3, the receiver triggers the XPA7 and the XPA200 on, they are just on, not doing anything else, but they sometimes are on for hours until I turn off whatever zone I was using, should I manually turn the amps off, or is it ok to leave them on that long? It's fine to leave them on 24/7. That's what I did with my old UPA-2. I just don't want things in the amps slowly cooking and shorten the life of the amps...lol... |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 30, 2019 19:32:53 GMT -5
It's fine to leave them on 24/7. That's what I did with my old UPA-2. I just don't want things in the amps slowly cooking and shorten the life of the amps...lol... It’s somewhat a philosophical issue, some (like garbulky) would leave them on for perceived audible benefits, others (like me) would figure out a way to turn things off they’re not using. Since you seem mostly concerned about the life of the amp, I’d say there will be little difference. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 30, 2019 19:36:59 GMT -5
Can you/ have you configured your zone triggers? Each zone should only trigger the amplifiers for that zone.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 1, 2019 0:54:21 GMT -5
Can you/ have you configured your zone triggers? Each zone should only trigger the amplifiers for that zone. Cheers Gary For whatever reason when I turn on zone 2 or 3, either by remote or the app on my phone the receiver triggers the XPA7, and the XPA7 triggers the XPA200 on, the menu on the receiver just asks for the triggers to be on or off, zone 2 goes to the living room, zone 3 goes to the garage, then I turn the receiver in either zone on.... |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 1, 2019 15:23:42 GMT -5
Hey Keith, what's your take...
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Post by 405x5 on Dec 1, 2019 17:51:30 GMT -5
Trigger Happy?  |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 1, 2019 18:52:08 GMT -5
Come on man, I'm serious....it's not about the triggers, it's about the amps...let's joke later, lol... |
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Post by 405x5 on Dec 1, 2019 20:16:07 GMT -5
Come on man, I'm serious....it's not about the triggers, it's about the amps...let's joke later, lol... Sorry... It’s Thanksgiving weekend and I’m a little slaphappy (not trigger happy) after finally being done with all that cooking and all...it was good! But seriously, to get to the bottom of this chain of command issue between the triggering and the other zones etc. I would defeat ALL the triggers, then start over with the main zone only, first until all kicks on and off as it should with a signal. Sounds like you’ve got a redundancy issue somewhere in the chain. A lot of guys just turn those amps on and leave em up for indefinite periods of time ( unless a storm comes up.) That’s perfectly fine with today’s state of the art power. Bill |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 2, 2019 8:14:46 GMT -5
Come on man, I'm serious....it's not about the triggers, it's about the amps...let's joke later, lol... Sorry... It’s Thanksgiving weekend and I’m a little slaphappy (not trigger happy) after finally being done with all that cooking and all...it was good! But seriously, to get to the bottom of this chain of command issue between the triggering and the other zones etc. I would defeat ALL the triggers, then start over with the main zone only, first until all kicks on and off as it should with a signal. Sounds like you’ve got a redundancy issue somewhere in the chain. A lot of guys just turn those amps on and leave em up for indefinite periods of time ( unless a storm comes up.) That’s perfectly fine with today’s state of the art power. Bill I don't mind leaving the amps on as long as they would not get damaged, so you believe it's ok for them to be on for hours......and I did some cooking myself, loved it while playing the Christmas station... |
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Post by 405x5 on Dec 2, 2019 8:47:52 GMT -5
Sorry... It’s Thanksgiving weekend and I’m a little slaphappy (not trigger happy) after finally being done with all that cooking and all...it was good! But seriously, to get to the bottom of this chain of command issue between the triggering and the other zones etc. I would defeat ALL the triggers, then start over with the main zone only, first until all kicks on and off as it should with a signal. Sounds like you’ve got a redundancy issue somewhere in the chain. A lot of guys just turn those amps on and leave em up for indefinite periods of time ( unless a storm comes up.) That’s perfectly fine with today’s state of the art power. Bill I don't mind leaving the amps on as long as they would not get damaged, so you believe it's ok for them to be on for hours......and I did some cooking myself, loved it while playing the Christmas station... My amp. Has been on in standby mode to be triggered by signal since 2001 without issues. I mentioned redundancy earlier, that I have the XMC triggers off and rely on the amp trigger instead. Bill |
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Post by vcautokid on Dec 2, 2019 9:13:22 GMT -5
There is no problem leaving them on 24/7, other than using more electricity doing basically nothing. I would probably switch them off to save a bit of electricity, but as long as the power is always clean going in 24/7. Nothing is going to happen to the amps at all. That is one thing I love about professional amps. They can stay 24/7 because they were designed for that. Along with really reactive loads, they just take the pounding or staying idle 24/7 no sweat. But the Emotiva amps will do fine. If it bothers you allot see if there is a scheme where if there is no signal detected for a time, it puts the amplifier in standby. Easy peasy. Years hanging around doing audio professional and consumer says this is no big thing.
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 2, 2019 9:56:17 GMT -5
There is no problem leaving them on 24/7, other than using more electricity doing basically nothing. I would probably switch them off to save a bit of electricity, but as long as the power is always clean going in 24/7. Nothing is going to happen to the amps at all. That is one thing I love about professional amps. They can stay 24/7 because they were designed for that. Along with really reactive loads, they just take the pounding or staying idle 24/7 no sweat. But the Emotiva amps will do fine. If it bothers you allot see if there is a scheme where if there is no signal detected for a time, it puts the amplifier in standby. Easy peasy. Years hanging around doing audio professional and consumer says this is no big thing. They are on stand by all the time until they are triggered on, I was just curious, like I said when turn on any other zone they get triggered and just stay for hours until I'm done with the zone I was using, when I turn off the zone of course they get triggered off. |
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Post by davidl81 on Dec 2, 2019 9:56:44 GMT -5
Come on man, I'm serious....it's not about the triggers, it's about the amps...let's joke later, lol... Sorry... It’s Thanksgiving weekend and I’m a little slaphappy (not trigger happy) after finally being done with all that cooking and all...it was good! But seriously, to get to the bottom of this chain of command issue between the triggering and the other zones etc. I would defeat ALL the triggers, then start over with the main zone only, first until all kicks on and off as it should with a signal. Sounds like you’ve got a redundancy issue somewhere in the chain. A lot of guys just turn those amps on and leave em up for indefinite periods of time ( unless a storm comes up.) That’s perfectly fine with today’s state of the art power. Bill I think the trigger issue is that it sounds like Gus has the amps daisy chained (AVR-XPA-7-XPA200), so when he turns on any zone all of the amps turn on. I'm assuming that the AVR powers the Z2 and Z3 speakers and the amps are just for the main channel. If that's the case you should be able to program the trigger output an have have it active only for the main channel and not for Z2 or Z3. Even if you can't though it's not hurting the amps be on with no load on them. They are not drawing much more power sitting idle then they are when they are in standby mode. I don't think it would hurt the life of the amps in the slightest. |
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Post by repeetavx on Dec 2, 2019 11:33:06 GMT -5
There is a case to be made for leaving your electronics on. I had a buddy who told me this story.
About thirty years ago, my buddy took his father in law to the store and they bought two identical TVs.
My buddy would leave the TV on 24/7. His father in law would faithfully turn his TV on and off.
Because every time you turn on an electronic device, it heats up. The components physically expand. Then when you turn the device off, it cools and contracts. The discussion is which is better for electronic devices. To let them "burn", or to let them expand and contract.
So after about a dozen years, the father in law's TV breaks. So my buddy gave his father in law his TV and buys a flat screen.
After seven or eight years, the father in law decides to get a flat screen too, the original TV still working.
So is this story indicative? I think so, but one example does not make a study.
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 2, 2019 12:21:23 GMT -5
Sorry... It’s Thanksgiving weekend and I’m a little slaphappy (not trigger happy) after finally being done with all that cooking and all...it was good! But seriously, to get to the bottom of this chain of command issue between the triggering and the other zones etc. I would defeat ALL the triggers, then start over with the main zone only, first until all kicks on and off as it should with a signal. Sounds like you’ve got a redundancy issue somewhere in the chain. A lot of guys just turn those amps on and leave em up for indefinite periods of time ( unless a storm comes up.) That’s perfectly fine with today’s state of the art power. Bill I think the trigger issue is that it sounds like Gus has the amps daisy chained (AVR-XPA-7-XPA200), so when he turns on any zone all of the amps turn on. I'm assuming that the AVR powers the Z2 and Z3 speakers and the amps are just for the main channel. If that's the case you should be able to program the trigger output an have have it active only for the main channel and not for Z2 or Z3. Even if you can't though it's not hurting the amps be on with no load on them. They are not drawing much more power sitting idle then they are when they are in standby mode. I don't think it would hurt the life of the amps in the slightest. The main zone is the basement, when I turn on zone 2 (garage) or zone 3 (living room), the receiver displays Basement Off, so there it knows what's going on, the menu asks for triggers 1 and 2 either on or off.... |
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